SC Tips and Tricks

#1. I offer to buy the dancer a drink, this is usually before the dance not after

#2. If a girl asks for some company and I am very honest, if the girl is my type, I say sure, if not I politely say "no thank you:.

#3 In terms of getting a girls attention, I wait until they get on stage and then make myself known by tipping a little more than usual, this usually does the trick and gets me an audience with the girl.

#4 If I am not ready to spend yet but someone I am attracted to asks me for a dance, I say not right now but check back with me in ____ minutes. When she comes back I buy dances.

#5, I let them set the pace for "limits". My expectations are for a good, fun, relatively clean dance. Sometimes things heat up and I am always pleasantly surprised when that happens but I do not expect it

#6 I ask "do you do private shows" that helps to determine if OTC is possible but it is not a offensive way to ask a pretty personal question.

Answers as follows:

1. Say a firm "no thank you" with a smile.

2. Life topics work best. There is the typical get to know you chat that comes with the turf. No need to force it.

3. You don't. Never chase after a girl - it puts you in a position of weekness in dealing with her and it is the best way to go broke. She may also be tied up with a spender or a reg, which you may not be able to compete with.

4. See number 1. above. If you are unsure but don't want one now, simply tell her that you are not ready for a dance yet, and repeat it until she gets it. Need to have some balls in a club son.

5. No, you will come off as creepy and she would likely lie to you anyway. Experience is the best teacher. Sometimes one must invest in mining operations in order to find a gem.

Read the most recent OTC discussions on here - it is more about your own confidence - and your bankroll - then it is about hers.

#3: adding to what has been said.

I'd say about 10% of the time, the dancer is working out some kind of bigger game and you won't get their interest. 20% of the time, the girl is just working a regular. The other 70%, the girl is tired or lazy and is taking it easy at a table. If not part of the first 10%, then the girl will likely be responsive.

The key is waiting for her to go on stage; so that she is separated from the regular, etc. I've done it before, myself. Plop down the $5, $10 or $20 (depending on club) on the stage and when she comes by say "I'd like a dance from you later." No need to be complicated. She will likely remember you. Otherwise, enjoy the stage dance. No need to stalk or anything :).

BTW, she will likely go to the dressing room first after leaving the stage. Normal. She is gathering her stuff and sorting out tips. Don't move too far from your stage-side seat or she might have a hard time finding you later.

The bigger question is whether you really want that dance. If the girl is tired or lazy, she might not give a very good dance. When I do it, it is usually because she is stunning (appearance-wise) or unique in some way--and I take the chance. But, the odds of quality are not good, IMO.

1. This kinda puts me off - I politely brush her off.
2. I will go for this unless there is something about gal I don't like. I will buy her a drink and try to steer the convo in a direction where she will open up. I try to treat her with respect and avoid sex talk. I will try to get some mileage if it seems available.
3. You can tip the coctail waitress to tell the girl but you may be blowing in the wind if she is sitting with big spender.
4. I don't - In SC you either take an opportunity or you may never see it again. In special circumstances will give them my business card.
5. I get a feel how she handles during a dance. If she seems really hot and turns me on I am gonna want to take to VIP or CR and bang her.
6. I simply tell her I am VIP or ask her if she plays. Then if she plays price and services are discussed. At the club where I am VIP extras abound (it is known as basically a whorehouse). If I take them up to VIP vs a dance on the floor, they alomost allways want sex (which means more $$). Most of them prefer doing a guy itc vs otc (quick turnover / more money). The last time I was there I banged a gal in VIP for $160 (about 5th time I did her). Then I enjoyed the buffet while she went on stage. On the other stage was a gal dancing I had banged a coupla of months before - now how neat or unsetling is that? Getting back to you question you can ask if they do private shows or work outside the club. In this way you avoid directly propostioning someone who may not play.

Tips: A buck or two at the stage, a five for a decent lapper, and $20+ (possibly very plus) for the VIP, depending on length and level of service.

Tricks: If you're lucky, some of the girls will be turning tricks. Don't pay till after, though, or you may find out how blue balls feels.

Here is how I work.

1. Depends on the situation at the time. If I haven't decided on someone yet I usually say "no thank you." If I might be interested in having her her come back later I will add "I am just looking at the moment, but stop back later." As for having her stay before or after a dance. Before is no problem, since I can't stand chit chat in clubs and would rather get on with the dance, I just say "lets head to the dance area the next song." After a dance, I don't usually want the dancer to stay long, so not a problem.

2. I talk about nothing, I don't go to clubs for chit chat, but dances. "Would you like some company?" is just another way of her asking if you want some dances.

3. For regulars this is not a problem, the dancer will recognize you and stop by. In a new club if I see a dancer I like but she is occupied, I will wait until she is on stage. If it looks like it will be a while, I may ask a waitress or bouncer to have her stop by when she is free. This usually gets her to ask if the people she is sitting with if they want a dance, and move on if they don't. I find that most of the time she won't get a dance and will stop over. A lot of dancers don't seem know when to give up on a customer and go to the next.

4. Ask her the next time you see her. A dancer doesn't care if you have said no, whether one time or a dozen times. If you ask her to stop over, she will. If you aren't sure then do as I said in part 1, "ask her to stop back later."

5. You have to be able feel out the club atmosphere and the dancer. Scope out the club a bit to get a feel of how things are. Also research on the internet. If the club is known for lots of extras, then asking her up front might be OK, but if it's known to be very strict on dances then it's probably not a good idea to ask up front.

Often the dancer will let me know what is available long before I ask, but if not then try to hint around what you want. If she asks you if you want a table dance or a more private dance, ask what is good about the private dance, then go from there. Once you are in a more private area then see what other dancers are doing, and go from there.

1. Ask her politely, the worst she can do is slap you or stop the dance. If she does then go on.

As far as girls coming up to your table and asking if you want company, this is generally a turn off for me. Unless they are unusually attractive, I usually tell them that I am waiting for one of my favorites.

When I see a new girl that I like but am having trouble getting her attention, I just wait for her to go on stage. Then I come up to her with a nice tip and ask her if she would sit with me and perhaps get some private dances when she is done working on stage.

When I am interested in someone I do not know, I always "interview" her before taking her in the back room. I want to make sure I am going to get a high mileage experience without paying too much for it. I never like to pay by the dance, so I like to arrange a fixed fee for the whole experience. In today's economy, I can usually get a good make out session, followed by going down on her, followed by her going down on me until climax, for around $150. How many dances we do depends on how long it takes for her to get me off.

Oh, yeah, the only time I am interested in an OTC experience is during the few times when there is a Vice crackdown and the girls are too afraid to do anything. During these periods the girls are usually much more into the idea of OTC because that is the only way they are going to make any money. But most of the time, at least in Detroit, you can do anything in the VIP room that you could do privately, so why bother?