Is Dating a Stripper a Mistake?

Did you at least get some good steamy sex?

Yes, it probably ruined that club for you. For now. But I don't see why you can't go to other clubs. If you know that she is dancing at club X, then clubs Y and Z and maybe A, B, and C are, by definition, in play. And when you finally go back to club X, the turnover may be all you need to help clean the slate. And you can plead your case to each individual stripper and let each know that you and the ATF are over. If she pulls a knife on them in the dressing room, then you may have a tougher go of it.

You don't see the difference between a stripper g/f giving dances which is het job and you buying dances from her friends? Seriously? You think strippers enjoy giving dances the way customers like receiving them??

Looks like step one of dating a stripper is to find another favorite club. Step 2 is to just enjoy it for what it is for as long as it lasts.

See skibum's answer

skibum raises an important point. The girl is working there to earn money - she has to give dances to guys that want them. It's just part of the job, it does not mean she actually has an interest in those guys.

Ive dated a stripper before. Nothing but drama.

i've dated strippers too and some turned into short term relationships that never last long for various reasons but the sex and eye candy factor temporarily made up for the bullshit and headaches. when the bs got too deep i just moved on.
even though i know better, in the interest of some short term fun i will still consider dating strippers in the future.

Yeah, in most cases, you just need to look at it as short-term fun. No doubt there are some girls that could actually be decent relationship material, but they are few and far in between.

Not worth the trouble, the drama and the lying. It was an ego boost for a brief moment--watching younger guys drool and ex-girlfriends squirm. Too much money, too many threats from her gangsta ex-boyfriends and too many things missing from my apartment.

To answer a few questions. Ive given up on her club, went there a week ago and im still known as girl X's boyfriend, even tho we've been over for two year now. (we are still friendly)
As for the difference between a stripper g/f giving dances and me getting dances from her friends... I never got a dance from a girl that she hangs with outside the club (most dancers dont care about each other at all, let alone are friends in the club). And Ive got a total of two dances there since we dated. But the point is, whether she enjoys the guys or not (I know she at least REALLY enjoys at least a couple guys a night) it dont matter in the least bit. That's like me sleeping with another girl while we are together and me saying it's cool cause I dont enjoy it. Im just sleeping with her cause she is my boss and its kinda how i keep my job...

Yes.

My experience was a great one. She had an issue with me dancing with anyone else, but then again I didn't want anyone but her anyway. And she explained it very well... she has to work with those people. They do it for a job, I do it for enjoyment. If I get a dance from a random chick at another club then she doesn't have to see them every single night thereafter. It makes a lot of sense.

Granted, I have gotten to know a lot of other dancers as a result of being with my girl, and I must say... aside from maybe one or two others (out of over 100...) it is a very bad idea to ever consider dating them. Whatever she will do with you before knowing you well... she will do for anyone else too. You weren't special until you started dating.. and in some cases not even then. I got EXTREMELY lucky in my choice so I can't say never do it ever...

BUT... definitely approach that type of relationship with EXTREME caution. Remember that most girls in there are sharks. They are skilled in telling you what you want to hear. So just be extra sure you know what you're getting into.

@biggb011 - but you knew that this was her job going in. Her job is to basically pleasure men for money. The difference here is that it isn't your job to get LDs from other girls, that's something you have to decide to do.

Personally, I think it should be fine if you get LDs from other girls, but I can see why this girl wouldn't appreciate it. It may seem like a double standard, but that isn't entirely so.

Anyway, why don't you just approach other girls for dances? I don't know how your club setup is, but personally I would just tip some other girls I like on stage, they'll generally approach me for a dance afterward, and I'll say yes. Simple as that. Start doing this, and the girls will realize that you're open to getting dances from them.

@biggb011 -- the fact that you can compare a dance to sex is evidence that either you chose the wrong one... or that you're a bit closed minded. Not sure which, but there is definitely a problem if that comparison can be made with any accuracy.

There is no such as dating strippers unless you equate it with meeting one for a session. They will use "dating" as a form of manipulation to milk you for money via shopping, etc.

If I want something from them beyond lap dances, I simply make them an offer for itc or otc sex. They respect a direct approach than something lame like "lets meet for dinner and a movie."

Most of the time it's probably a mistake but I've been lucky enough to find a couple of gems. I never went to the club while they were working.

If you mean anything other than the stripper sucking your cock then its a bad idea

Most of the time it is probably a mistake but shit happens. i.e. gridget.

Player has it right.

I've dated a stripper befor. it was a lot of fun listning to her stories about the customers. Just be carefule

Seems like one of our fellow TUSCL members married a stripper. Can't recall his name right now. Yea, I have dated some.

No matter how much they say they love you they are still having ITC sex with their "regulars." So always keep this in mind and just be in the relationship for the ride. When you crash and burn then at least you can say it was fun while it lasted.

Now if they "retire", settle down with you, get "religion", have your kids, get a normal job, and stop fucking other guys, then you can look back and say "I was a lucky s.o.b."

pablo, that would be harrydave.

Is Dating a Stripper a Mistake?

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I prefer the fake, ITC kind of dates - Meet my favorite at the bar for drinks, conversation, and canoodling, maybe share a meal, and then go somewhere more private and intimate for mutual groping.

Been a long time since I was on a actual date, but as I remember it, that’s better than 90% of my real dates back in the day.

Steve, good play on Geico. LOL Had a real date one time that when I took her home and pulled into the cul-de-sac, she jumped out and ran to her house. If the car had been moving any faster, she would have had to fall and roll like a stuntwoman. Not a successful date.

bigg: It sounds like you've already moved on, so this may all be moot for you, though not for others.

If by "dating" you mean in the now mostly traditional American definition of the word, where you (both parties) are attempting to discover the feasibility of something more permanent, then you at least owe her the respect of either being considerate of her wishes in this regard, or discuussing it and telling her outright that you don't think it's important and then dealing with the fallout, whether that be a breakup, or a redrawing of the lines of acceptable behaviour. Irrespective of whether or not she sometimes enjoys it (if you don't enjoy your job at least some of the time, you're in the wrong job), it *is* still her job, and if that bothers you, you're in the wrong relationship.

If, on the other hand, you're talking about a fuckbuddy, or friends with benefits, relationship, and both parties are in accord with that, then it's more reasonable for you to object to her request and ire.

If you want a fuckbuddy, and she wants a boyfriend, or you want a girlfriend and she wants a customer, one or both of you are going to be disappointed over the long term, and it should probably be terminated sooner rather than later. Admittedly, many people, strippers and customers alike, will lie profusely about what they expect, but that doesn't change the fundamental fact of a problem with differing expectations.

Player11 and GSV have some very good observations on this subject. Player mentioned something I've personally experienced: I will often initiate an OTC by simply meeting a dancer for lunch or dinner--with nothing more planned after that. The idea is to just have a short, get-acquainted session outside of the club. If that goes well, I will ask the dancer another time, for another event. Twice it's happened what Player mentioned: The dancer takes the opportunity to say, "Maybe we can go shopping afterward." On both of those occassions, I cancelled, or never made final arrangements for the lunch/dinner, and then never spent another dollar again, on that dancer.

OTC play for pay is probably safer and cheaper in the long run than dating a stripper. That being said, I have dated some dancers with mixed results. Girls in their 30's with a child or two are looking for a husband--no thanks! I dated a 20-something dancer for 3 months and it was fun. But she was an air head and lived with a boyfriend and so she had to sneak around to go out with me. She liked the concerts and nice restaurants I took her to, but she began asking for presents a little too often.

It's probably only a mistake if she gets pregnant or married.

Oh my! Dated my first stripper in 89'. Never learned my lesson. I've been through eight now and the end result is always the same. DRAMA! Never changes. So who's fault is that? Bottom line is I like a woman who's tough as nails and isn't going to tell me I can't stick it in her ass (no sense sugar-coating).

Currently dating a dancer in her early 20's (I'm 40 but I look 30). Same story line. Lot's of drama. When we go out I never pay for anything. Again, seen that before. I already know what the deal is. Maybe this time it will be different~yeah right.

It's always an adventure dating an "entertainer". I must like the drama.

Even if she is a good woman, fact is she works like 5, maybe 6 nights a week. Gives you one, at best two nights to see her. Can never go out on weekends together and she will have little to no career after 32yo. (Some) dancers might be a good hookup, but 99.9% are not for long term.

Most strippers will just use you to get what they want(money). I would never take a guy seriously that I met at a strip club.

A Warning to the wise I guess and I agree pretty much with everything that biggb011 says. I dated a stripper for a few months and found that dating a stripper is like dating a liar a cheat and a swindler all rolled into one. The girl I dated was just dating me for my money and kept thinking up all kinds of bizarre excuses why she needed more of it. When I called her on it she was gone instantly. And what worked out great for me was that she left the club and the other girls there started giving me all kinds of attention hoping i guess that they could take her place and get some of my money as well. Needless to say I am careful who I help financially now and I do it when I want to and never if they ask me.

I understand what you're saying jestrite. I learned to take a different approach at the club. Never get a private. By employing this tactic you're obviously not going to have as much "fun". I figure if the girls are going to lie then why shouldnt I do the same? "I'm just here to relax and enjoy the scenery and have a drink". After a few visits I figure out who's about the money and who wants a date. I must admit, I am a good looking gentleman so that helps. I tell them up front you're not getting my money. Somehow this has worked for me many, many times. I'll take it for what it's worth knowing that a woman in this line of work is usually not worth the time you're going to invest.

Ok, I haven't read the responses here and believe me I don't need to. I've been running a club for A LONG TIME NOW...I've seen what happens when you date a stripper over and over again. And while I don't date my dancers and never would out of respect, I have dated former dancers of mine and it simply never works out for me.

That being said....

If you are someone who has no social skills.....


If you are someone who is ugly...

Well, if you you fall into those two areas and you have money strippers or whores are your best chance at fucking a hot girl.

If you are a drug dealer then throwing money at them never hurts...hey, just being honest here. I'm on the other side of the fence than most of you....

If you don't have money, then you need a really dumb stripper, and they are out there too.

But if you do end up dating them, never trust them. Never believe that they love you and you only. Just be happy that you got your taste of hot pussy when you did, it's probably going to be your only shot at it unless you deal. Even then, that will be the only reason they love you although you will get awesome sex. Don't ever try to reform them...in that case you're a sucker. OK, how's that for being honest? I'm in the biz, and I'm just letting you know. If you want something real, this isn't the way to go for the most part. If you're ugly and you have no game but you have money, I'll be honest---I wouldn't blame you. This is your best chance at a fling with hot pussy. In that case, you and I are adversaries because I will fire the girl that hangs out with your pathetic lonely ass. But in truth, I will always understand you. Sorry folks, been there too long....

I could go on, but I think most people with a clue understand me perfectly well.

But for those of you who go into to clubs trying to pick them up but who have no means of ever doing so----thank you. You keep me in business, you keep braces on my kids teeth, and you give me those vacations in Hawaii. I think you should keep on trying over and over again!!!! lol

To those few of you who actually have enough game to take them out of my club, I'd like to strike you with the hammer of Thor one thousand times over.

tigerfan3: “To those few of you who actually have enough game to take them out of my club, I'd like to strike you with the hammer of Thor one thousand times over.” Are you saying you want me to bring them back?

"To those few of you who actually have enough game to take them out of my club, I'd like to strike you with the hammer of Thor one thousand times over"

Now thats funny. You talk about respect but you don't actually have any for your co-workers. Doesn't make any sense. Ever pick up a chick in any other line of work while she's working? What's the difference? You make it sound like evey last dancer is an outright prostitute. I dated an escort in Daytona who lived on the inlet and made 5 times my salary and I do quite well. She never asked me for a dime.

I get what you're saying but there are those who just like what they see and they "attempt" to have a normal relationship with that person. Just sayin~

Stripahn, I don't know what to say other than guys who actually do end up taking dancers out of my club cost me money. Luckily, 99% of customers have no hope of ever doing that. No, not every dancer is a prositute. Most of them aren't. I have respect for the dancers, believe me. My mother was a dancer, ok? My Aunt was a dancer. But I know enough to know that when a customer starts fucking a girl in the real world he isn't coming here to get a lap dance anymore. He may stop by to drop off Taco Bell and cigarrettes to her, but that'll be about it.

I wasn't trying to bash you tiger. I've never run a club but I've known alot of owners and managers. I've been around them since 88' when I was Playing clubs in the Dale Mabry area of Tampa. I'm sure you've heard of Mons Venus. You are right, most of the ladies assume they're going to be miss nude someday, maybe even Playboy. They also believe that they can extract as much cash as they want from a customer. That's why you enjoy those vacations. I'm not that guy and I do take the time to find out who's doing what.

I NEVER accept a private. My angle is a date and I've had plenty. OTC money? Out of the question. As far as taking a girl out of the club? I've never once asked a dancer to quit, that's her decision. There's a fine line here between job/sex/boyfriend.

Now the Taco Bell/cigarrettes reference is a good one. I'm currently involved with a dancer and I WILL NOT go to the club while she's working (terrible etiquette). If you're really interested in the dancer why watch the endless line for the lap dances?

I guess the point is you're going to lose some of your beautiful ladies to guys who frequent your club. Who the hell would want to do the job for a decade or so? There's always the next crop of 18 yr.old naive ladies.

great thread, saved me a lot of trouble

I once had a dancer get upset about me spending too much time with another dancer in the lap dance room. The dancer I slept with the previous weekend was upset at first but that taught her that I would still be getting dances from other dancers. I mean she was dancing for other guys so I didn't see any difference. It's not like we were married. After that one episode, we both continued on like nothing was any different. I've always gotten dances from several dancers even if I was seeing one of them outside the club. I think the one dancer that got upset was more worried I was sleeping with the other dancer away from the club. I reassured her and everything was good after that. Even though she liked to keep rubbing it in about me being some kind of player or something. I thought she was crazy but I meet a lot of crazy people. One thing that concerned me one night in a military town was when one guy in the 82nd airborne called me crazy. Me? Seriously? But then he said that was ok because he was too. I have no idea why. Going out with some dancers can be fun but your patience can be tried at times. Expect to see some drama at some point unless you're lucky. It can be worth it with some girls. If they aren't working at a club, they are more like other crazy girls.

I don't usually try to date any strippers and avoided it for years. Don't ever loan them anything either if you want it back. I say date loosely because I never called it that. I just hung out with one dancer or another or went back to her place or somewhere during her offhours. I didn't even call one trip I took to the beach with a dancer a date. So if all you do is have fun and don't date, it is much better. With one dancer I called it hanging out after hours because that was what she was doing. She didn't have a car so she started leaving the club with me when I was there. The club closed at 2 AM but our nights dragged on around town much later. One night I was even with 2 or 3 other dancer couples. I was going where the dancer wanted to go. I met a dead guy that night. Military plane crash killed him according to official records. He wasn't too happy someone brought that up. I guess people don't like to be declared dead. I wonder if he got his paycheck on time? Going out with a dancer and sleeping in may have saved his life. So I guess for some people, it pays off.

I never went out with a dancer who was in the military. I did get a dance from one girl still wearing military boots one night. She apologized but I don't care about seeing her feet or shoes.

Simply said you can hang out with or date a stripper a long as you stay in control. Now that is simply said but fuqn hard to do. It's especially hard if she starts to introduce you to her friends and family...buys you gifts...etc. I'm 40, so it's somewhat uneasy when a 23 y/o babe wants you to meet folks close to her. Recently, shit got real interesting when a sgf's mom began making passes at me. I'm not into chics my age so it easy to say 'hell no'. Still weird though.

Striphan - when you say never get a private are you saying never get a lapdance or never get a "private show"? I definitely agree with not going to the club while she is working.

sharkhunter - Right you are about just hanging out and having fun vs dating

georg said it well: If you want a fuckbuddy, and she wants a boyfriend, or you want a girlfriend and she wants a customer, one or both of you are going to be disappointed over the long term, and it should probably be terminated sooner rather than later.

sofuqd I feel your pain...I'm 40, so it's somewhat uneasy when a 23 y/o babe wants you to meet folks close to her.

Bottom line I'm with Bum...Most of the time it's probably a mistake but I've been lucky enough to find a couple of gems!

VH_Kicks: what stripper who wants sex 4 or 5 times a day doesn't ride and suck cocks in the VIP? Even "good" girls lose their willpower and will fuck somebody if they work in an extras club. I know, I've done them.

while as a person that has actually had a real relationship with a stripper.. i have to say .. enter at your own risk
now ive had my shares of countless sexual encounters with strippers both inside and outside the club and they were great for the most part .. i actually got into a serious relationship with the fresh meat (new girl) at my favorite strip club... she was new to the bussiness and latched to me when i came to the club.. would dance 7-8 songs and only charge me for like 3-4 so of course for my wallets sake i kept this thing going and then she grabs my phone 1 night calls her phone from my phone and says we should meet up.. im thinking "i get to break in the new stripper b4 anybody else" i like this.. well actually ended up going on real dates.. u know dinner and movies and it all seemed great .. until she got deep in the strip game.. started using.. smoking weed drinking .. i remember when she 1st started she went 4 days a week thursday-sunday...next thing u know she was going in every night she worked every single hour the club was open ..
unlike the topic starter when i visit she allowed me to get lap dances from other girls... but only a few girls she was cool with and didnt have a problem with .. ok so to cut the long story shorter she ended up turning into this chick that seemed like a forever stripper .. got too into the drugs and too into thelifestyle .. i had to roll.. i guess i can say it was fun while it lasted but i actually thought i had something different with this chick..it and was awhile before i stepped foot back into that club

ok, so me and my girl went through a rough patch recently and i started frequenting the clubs. i went to one of the (actually the ONLY) local bikini bars and this "crackhead" started macking me hard and for kicks i gave her my GV number (google) which I could control and block whenever i felt the need and my girl wouldn't be suspicious or catch me in the event that i decided to do something more. now this girl ACTED as if she was just horny and thought i was the hottest shit she had ever seen--like one of he other posters, i'm in my mid 40s but could pass for 35 easily and not bad looking--but i'm not naive and i definitely know the real deal.

after a couple of conversations, i realized that she was an ex-con (never would say why) and her persistent request for us to "hook up" got old. she actually wasn't that attractive--not ugly, but definitely not a strip club "dream girl," so when i realized she got fired from the club i cut her off. but a light went on in my head.

i've posted on her before about dancers that try to "claim" you in the door. well, i walked in this same bikini bar on night and noticed this hot little number who was like, "who is THAT??" when i walked in the door. i hadn't seen her before so i knew she was "fresh meat" but before i could make contact, my "owner" was like "oh, he's MINE girl," so she backed off, but I made it clear in the VIP room to this hottie that I was not attached to anyone and ended up getting the digits and texted a few days later. we were both out-of-towners from the same hometown and seemed to hit it off. for some reason, she was impressed with my accessories and (incorrectly) assumed that I could afford to be her sugar daddy. oh, and she was 18 but was still a player, though not terribly smart. or maybe she was just "optimistic" that I was too dumb to see through her games.

Anyway, we met up and ended up going to Denny's (open 24-hours and didn't require her to be carded) and just talking. Of course I paid, but she never gave her real name (BIG CLUE), saying "does it really MATTER?" when I asked her. Of course, she never got mine either! lol

I've frequented strip clubs ever since I first moved to my current location and I've NEVER run into a dancer otc, even on chance--unless i just did and didn't recognize them out of makeup and "uniform," which is odd, considering that i live in a somewhat small city. (that doesn't included the college track star that i ran into itc who i knew previously. neither of us ever spoke of it afterward, even though it was a bit awkward for about 5 minutes) after fooling with this hottie, i think i've finally answered the question in part and am a bit embarrased that i was too dumb to figure this out on my own--SOME/MANY? OF THEM LIVE IN THE PROJECTS AND I DON'T TEND TO FREQUENT THERE. lol I guess the rest of them (the top dollar ones) live in the exclusive (rich) neighborhoods that I also don't frequent (please refer to my earlier sugar daddy comment--lol)

back to the hottie, i ended up dropping her off at home with no sex or anything, but planned to maybe hook up later, but she seemed to be unavailable. now i realize that the chance of an 18 year old genuinely being interested in a 40 something just because she though i was "nice" was about as likely as me possessing the "hammer of Thor" (lol. i, too, liked that reference in the earlier post) but i was just planning to ride this thing out and see how it would play out.

she couldn't get alcohol because of her age, so she became fond of calling me whenever she needed a buzz (this happened two times and then i got tired of it, although i did ride around with a 5th in the back of my car in case anything ever did go down so i would be prepared. wasn't too comfortable about giving booze to minor, though. She was supposedly buying a used car and called me up one time to get a "ride" to the lot. Although my job is pretty flexible, I told her that I couldn't get away from work at the time, but that when i could, i could DROP HER OFF at a specific time and she could just drive her car back home. She didn't seem to like those terms. guess i was supposed to buy the car too...

but i only ever talked to her on the phone once, which was when i got lost trying to find her apartment in the projects. every other communication was texts (ANOTHER BIG CLUE) and honestly i can't understand half the shit these kids are trying to say on their texts, so suffice it to say i never really got to know her very well. after a week or so, she stopped responding and then she texted me from a "new number" and would act like she wanted to come over to the crib. I wasn't too keen about having her at my spot, but for one reason or another, she never could make it over (probably due to getting a better "offer") and this went on for about a month.

finally, i pressed her about "hooking up," and she finally fessed up that she was just in if for the cash and wanted about $200 to hook up in a motel or something since at this point, my crib was not an option. my girl and i stay in separate cribs, but i wasn't going to risk it and really didn't trust the girl as far as I could throw her. she kept getting pushy about the location of the motel, saying that she was "on the way," without even discussing the terms of our arrangement. finally, she gave up and moved on. she tried contacting me once again two weeks later (on another "new" number) and claimed she needed money to get her car out of impound. I cut her off.

During this time, i also met a third dancer who had moved from the bikini bar to a nearby nude club and was also sweating me, mainly because she recognized me and also wasn't getting that much attention from the other patrons. she was decent, but not a bombshell. a tall drink of water, though, and i do like long legs. based on my two other experiences and stuff i read on here, i just straight out asked her if she did any otc encounters and she QUICKLY gave me her number and started texting/calling soon after to "hook up." to make a longer story shorter, she ended up hitting me up with the parole violation story and also needed some fast cash. i ended up promising her a VIP to "help" but didn't end up giving her any money and cutting her off.

other than going to denny's with the hottie, I guess i don't really have any "dating" experience, but from these three encounters--and the fact that my girl and i are doing much better, perhaps due to these experiences in part?--i am not really hitting the clubs much and don't really endorse the stripper "dating as in girlfriend" option. take it for what it's worth.

Most everyone has had bad experiences with dating strippers Ive noticed. Crazy thing is in my case she paid for everything. I think my issue was I never took the relationship serious from the start. So I still went to clubs and everything. funny thing is, the lawyer I dated after her didn't do half the stuff the stripper did. The stripper did cook, clean, iron my clothes in the morning, do my grocery shopping, pick up my dry cleaning, etc. But the lawyer, everywhere we went 90% of the time I paid, and when we pulled up in parking lots she sat in the passenger seat with her arms crossed until I opened the door (not that I dont believe in chivalry). With that said, maybe if I had taken the stripper as serious as she took me things would've worked out... Still I wont date another one!

55 comments. Wow. One word would have done the trick.

YES.

The only thing I can add is that I'm in the business...I should know better. But I still keep finding out that---yes, it is a mistake. It's never worth it. It's always a bad idea. They almost never have their shit together. If you're in it only for the sex, it's worth it. Beyond that, you are really fooling yourself.

You're probably right tiger. I am on my eigth dancer. I think that alone speaks volumes. I must have some sick obsession with turmoil and strife.

Just don't fall in love or be taken like a fool. Maintain willpower and remember that YOU are in charge. If you can keep that shit together, dating dancers is a blast.

You can easily have a good relationship with a dancer if you're not a customer. Otherwise, I don't think that dynamic can really change.

Dating as a term used to refer to sex is very different than dating as used to refer to a relationship. If you're in a relationship do you really want to be in it with someone who's spent all day putting her hands on guys with them licking her?

Dating a stripper is a fantasy many strip clubbers have (and I fell for it at one time). The reality is if you fall in this trap with her you are going to be taking her shopping while she racks up a big bill. You will take her out to dinner while she buys a plate for her loser BF she supports in addition to herself at your expense. Then when she is thru, its goodbye. No pass go, no $200, no pussy with her. The more shopping "dates" you take her on the more she will ratchet up the expense sorta like a strong poker player with a good hand bidding up the pot.

I don't date them, I and simply to take them as concubines and enjoy them itc or otc. I have no problem calling this dating but the proper term wb that I am seeing them (at motel). I remember a debate on SW or somewhere that seeing a stripper otc is not dating and I told the stripper posting the comment "spermatozoa dont care if it is the cunt of the guys wife, fiancee, or whore, so call it what you want, but I will call it dating as I am a paying customer." I was subsequently banned from the site. Another term wb freindship with benefits or an arrangement. Whatever the arrangement, if it does not include pussy at my price, well no deal for me. A poll on ECCIE labeled "Sugarbabies" from sites like SA as sex providers. Whether a stripper plays or not, she is essentially a sex worker. During this recession I have had no problem finding $100 pussy with strippers itc or x strippers who now work in reg day jobs.

OhioVoyeur, good luck with that. Be ready though for a let down. I've dated 2 the last 3 years for over 15 months each. They may like you, but its always gonna be about the money. Unless you can do something for her its short term. Walk away or keep it casual with set expectations.

Sex is great when you are 40 and they are 24-18 yrs old, but think about it...Walk away.

Sounds like you made out pretty well. Super-sized stripper shit is at least manageable.