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My "limited" Stripper Dating Experience

quicknight
Maryland
Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:00 AM
<p> Let me preface this by emphasizing that I&#39;ve never slept with any of these women, although the one that I referred to as &quot;hottie,&quot; was definitely a possibility for me, although I wasn&#39;t trying to pay her even though I knew the whole time that it was what she wanted. Hey, a man can dream, right?&nbsp; I hope you enjoy this article and can maybe benefit from my experience.</p> <p> <br /> So me and my girl went through a rough patch recently and i started frequenting the clubs. I went to one of the (actually the ONLY) local bikini bars and this &quot;crackhead&quot; started macking me hard and for kicks i gave her my GV number (google) which I could control and block whenever i felt the need and my girl wouldn&#39;t be suspicious or catch me in the event that i decided to do something more. now this girl ACTED as if she was just horny and thought i was the hottest shit she had ever seen.&nbsp; I&#39;m in my mid 40s but could pass for 35 easily and not bad looking--but i&#39;m not naive and i definitely know the real deal.<br /> <br /> After a couple of conversations, i realized that she was an ex-con (never would say why) and her persistent request for us to &quot;hook up&quot; got old. she actually wasn&#39;t that attractive--not ugly, but definitely not a strip club &quot;dream girl,&quot; so when I found out she got fired from the club I cut her off. but a light went on in my head.<br /> <br /> i&#39;ve posted on here before about dancers that try to &quot;claim&quot; you at the door. Well, I walked in this same bikini bar one night and noticed this hot little number who was like, &quot;who is THAT??&quot; when i walked in the door. I hadn&#39;t seen her before so I knew she was &quot;fresh meat&quot; but before I could make contact, my &quot;owner&quot; was like &quot;oh, he&#39;s MINE girl,&quot; so she backed off, but I made it clear in the VIP room to this hottie that I was not attached to anyone and ended up getting the digits and texted a few days later. We were both out-of-towners from the same hometown and seemed to hit it off.&nbsp; For some reason, she was impressed with my accessories and (incorrectly) assumed that I could afford to be her sugar daddy. Oh, and she was 18 but was still a player, though not terribly smart. Or maybe she was just &quot;optimistic&quot; that I was too dumb to see through her games.<br /> <br /> Anyway, we met up and ended up going to Denny&#39;s (open 24-hours and didn&#39;t require her to be carded) and just talking. Of course I paid, but she never gave her real name (BIG CLUE), saying &quot;does it really MATTER?&quot; when I asked her. Of course, she never got mine either!<br /> <br /> I&#39;ve frequented strip clubs ever since I first moved to my current location and I&#39;ve NEVER run into a dancer otc, even on chance--unless I just did and didn&#39;t recognize them out of makeup and &quot;uniform,&quot; which is odd, considering that I live in a somewhat small city. (that doesn&#39;t included the college track star that I ran into itc who I knew previously. Neither of us ever spoke of it afterward, even though it was a bit awkward for about 5 minutes) After fooling with this hottie, I think I&#39;ve finally answered the question in part and am a bit embarrased that I was too dumb to figure this out on my own--SOME/MANY? OF THEM LIVE IN THE PROJECTS AND I DON&#39;T TEND TO FREQUENT THERE.&nbsp; I guess the rest of them (the top dollar ones) live in the exclusive (rich) neighborhoods that I also don&#39;t frequent (please refer to my earlier sugar daddy comment)<br /> <br /> Back to the hottie.&nbsp; I ended up dropping her off at home with no sex or anything, but planned to maybe hook up later, but she seemed to be unavailable. now I realize that the chance of an 18 year old genuinely being interested in a 40 something just because she though I was &quot;nice&quot; was about as likely as me possessing the &quot;hammer of Thor&quot;&nbsp; but I was just planning to ride this thing out and see how it would play out.<br /> <br /> She couldn&#39;t get alcohol because of her age, so she became fond of calling me whenever she needed a buzz (this happened two times and then I got tired of it, although I did ride around with a 5th in the back of my car in case anything ever did go down so I would be prepared. I wasn&#39;t too comfortable about giving booze to minor, though. She was supposedly buying a used car and called me up one time to get a &quot;ride&quot; to the lot. Although my job is pretty flexible, I told her that I couldn&#39;t get away from work at the time, but that when i could, i could DROP HER OFF at a specific time and she could just drive her car back home. She didn&#39;t seem to like those terms. guess I was supposed to buy the car too...<br /> <br /> I only ever talked to her on the phone once, which was when I got lost trying to find her apartment in the projects. every other communication was texts (ANOTHER BIG CLUE) and honestly I can&#39;t understand half the shit these kids are trying to say on their texts, so suffice it to say I never really got to know her very well. after a week or so, she stopped responding and then she texted me from a &quot;new number&quot; and would act like she wanted to come over to the crib. I wasn&#39;t too keen about having her at my spot, but for one reason or another, she never could make it over (probably due to getting a better &quot;offer&quot;) and this went on for about a month.<br /> <br /> Finally, i pressed her about &quot;hooking up,&quot; and she finally fessed up that she was just in if for the cash and wanted about $200 to hook up in a motel or something since at this point, my crib was not an option. my girl and i stay in separate cribs, but i wasn&#39;t going to risk it and really didn&#39;t trust the girl as far as I could throw her. she kept getting pushy about the location of the motel, saying that she was &quot;on the way,&quot; without even discussing the terms of our arrangement. finally, she gave up and moved on. she tried contacting me once again two weeks later (on another &quot;new&quot; number) and claimed she needed money to get her car out of impound. I cut her off.<br /> <br /> During this time, i also met a third dancer who had moved from the bikini bar to a nearby nude club and was also sweating me, mainly because she recognized me and also wasn&#39;t getting that much attention from the other patrons. she was decent, but not a bombshell. a tall drink of water, though, and i do like long legs. based on my two other experiences and stuff i read on here, i just straight out asked her if she did any otc encounters and she QUICKLY gave me her number and started texting/calling soon after to &quot;hook up.&quot; to make a longer story shorter, she ended up hitting me up with the parole violation story and also needed some fast cash. i ended up promising her a VIP to &quot;help&quot; but didn&#39;t end up giving her any money and cutting her off.<br /> <br /> Other than going to denny&#39;s with the hottie, I guess i don&#39;t really have any &quot;dating&quot; experience, but from these three encounters--and the fact that my girl and i are doing much better, perhaps due to these experiences in part?--i am not really hitting the clubs much and don&#39;t really endorse the stripper &quot;dating as in girlfriend&quot; option. take it for what it&#39;s worth.</p>

22 comments

  • derekfromcharlotte
    13 years ago
    Thanks for sharing but my advise is don't kill the fantasy. Even thinking OTC without "helping them out" is a way for reality to set in- that it's all about the cash and hustle. Just pretend their interested in you and let it be fantasy. Since a hottie can get a one night stand nearly any night that option will be available ON a given night- not a future date. As far as a future date, that would only be offered if they were interested in more than just a one-nighter and like actual relationship possibility. And no matter your charm looks and money, it would be Extremely low odds they would take a chance on club visitor, just like you'd be crazy to pursue a relationship with a stripper. The one nighter is an option though. I got lucky once and she was rather wasted. I like to think it was more her act). Either way I took the option. A gentleman I'm not if I took advantage of a wasted stripper, but a lucky man I am. We both had a good time but I got the better end of the deal for a one-nighter. Had it not been the opportunity that night at that moment I'm sure it would have never happened. I saw her again in club and a second OTC has never come up. Haha.
  • IrishLad
    13 years ago
    Honestly, not sure what you're going for. These girls are available for a fee otc, the things they said and did made that pretty clear. It's that simple. The stories are just to provide a cover story for legal reasons or so you feel better about it but everybody is supposed to quietly understand the real deal. In each of these cases I'm sure they feel that they invested their time (some more some less) because you indicated you were interested in being a customer (however veiled and finessed mainly for cultural/legal reasons) but that you didn't hold up your end. They are pretty much right. Whatever floats your boat - seriously I'm not trying to insult you or anything - but that's what's going on here and it sounds like you know it and are just jacking with them for free kicks.
  • skibum609
    13 years ago
    Except for sex with a relatively inexperienced teenager what are the other reasons a 40 yr. old man would want an 18 yr. old girlfriend?
  • quicknight
    13 years ago
    Thanks, guys, for all the feedback. I wasn't sure anyone would be interested in my "adventures," but this is kind of like, "a wirtual support group," right? We can all share without disclosing our identities or worrying about being judged. @derek I hear you and I'm glad to hear you had a good time. If I wasn't attached, I probably could've had a good time too instead of just feeling guilty. Who knows...right? I don't "pack heat," (gun) but I am a little nervous about being "alone" with a total stranger. Don't get me wrong, I'm a decent-sized dude and could handle myself for the most part, but I can't outrun bullets! I know this is probably another thread (maybe i'll start it later!) but has anyone here ever been set up by an "encounter" whether from a SC dancer or any other "adult service provider" and walked into an ambush, of sorts? Call me paranoid, if you will--I probably am, but I like to consider all the possibilities. I read some posters on here saying that their stuff has come up "missing" with their SCGF but has anyone ever been jacked at gunpoint? In the end, I suppose it's always going to be a judgement call, but terms like "hustler," and "ex-con" are kind of a red flag for me. These people would never be in my home. @Irish Haven't you ever gone window shopping? Test driven a car? As I said, I did consider the possibility, but as I gathered more details, I decided against it. I see where you are coming from, but I wasn't jacking anyone, just learning the game. I'm sure they were disappointed, perhaps even pissed, but that's all part of the "hustle" game. You win some, you lose some. I wasn't the one forcing them to respond to my texts and many of the texts weren't even solicited with messages like, "Let's hook up!" or "What are you doing right now?" They shouldn't be judged for fishing anymore than I should be for "taking the bait." @skiburn EXACTLY! Although some of these kids are more experienced than you might think! Remember, they start having "sex" (usually oral) much earlier now and have access to media that I never dreamed of at their age. That said, i have to go back to derek's comment that it is all about the fantasy. What I want to do with an 18 year old has nothing to do with a relationship. But that's what the whole sex industry is all about. Porn, strippers,supermodels, etc. it's all about capitalizing on the youth. Call me sick, or whatever, if you want, but that's what this whole sex industry is and it's big business for more than just my personal fantaties. Again, thanks for the dialogue. Keep sharing your thoughts!
  • skibum609
    13 years ago
    Quick -- In reality kids aren't anymore promiscuous as teens than we were in the 70's. I still had a paper route when I lost my virginity and was 2+ years away from being able to drive. It seems like kids have more experience now because they're not smart enough to avoid pregnancy, making their actions public knowledge. If you think about the sexiest dancers are usually the older ones, who use skill to make up for their diminished looks.
  • sinclair
    13 years ago
    Thanks for sharing.
  • IrishLad
    13 years ago
    @OhioVoyeur, Never can be sure, but often when OTC becomes "girlfriend" in your situation, this is because you're being upgraded to "Sugar Daddy". Expect an urgent financial crisis soon roughly equal to 5 "sessions" to keep the gravy flowing. Or so I hear.
  • quicknight
    13 years ago
    @IL ROTFLMAO
  • georgmicrodong
    13 years ago
    IrishLad: Voice of experience there, dude?
  • IrishLad
    13 years ago
    I read a lot :-)
  • Player11
    13 years ago
    I can see why your stripper dating experience is limited. Its more like 1-2-3 punt and your starting on their 25 yard line. Why play if your not going to try to score? No, they are not goin to do you for free and yes I pay for pussy if the price is right just like I enjoy a fast food drive thru. I dont go for dating BS with them - I take their hints they need cash for whatever and make them an offer for otc or itc (if extras club). But I dont even wait for that part - I simply throw for the endzone and ask them if they like to play and then make an offer.
  • potheadpl
    13 years ago
    @skibum----Why would a 40 year old man want an 18 year old girlfriend? Tight pussy, firm boobs, soft skin---and the envious looks of every other 40 year old dude in the room. LOL!
  • quicknight
    13 years ago
    @ski i hear you, but even the statistics (not just the pregnancies)support that todays kids are more sexually savvy. i mean, look at the porn industry. even it looks more "hardcore" than it did 20 years, thanks, in part, to technology. i'm sure if you had a cellphone at 14 (or younger) you would have been "sexting," too, but you didn't. that's my point. these kids have access to much more sophisticated (and advanced) sexual resources than we did as kids. not more promiscous, but definitely more stimulated/titilated!! @player you are absolutely right. as i said, i was conducting some "pre play" research (sort of like reading the Monopoly instructions manual before playing) and if and when i decided to roll the dice in the future, i now know the "rules." again, not judging those who choose to do so, but i'm not inclined at the moment... to be honest, i was mostly fascinated that the game was as easy as it seems. when i first started visiting SC, i was obviously not pressing the right buttons, b/c i was pretty ripe for some otc, but the dancers didn't seem to biting. in hindsight--and with the help of many of the stories at tuscl, i can see the error of my ways, but that's water under the bridge. hopefully the newjacks to the game can benefit where i really did't have this awesome resource.
  • quicknight
    13 years ago
    @ pothead SHOW YOU RIGHT! (you know you right!) lol
  • GCMan
    13 years ago
    Strippers are usually attractive women who like attention and money. They want both and a lot of it, so as long as you remember that everything will be straight....I dated 2 for over 15 months each in last 3 years. Drama is what you get in return. It was fun and the sex great, but not worth the drama. Walk away.
  • quicknight
    13 years ago
    @GC. I'm confused. Great sex. Fun. Walk away? Lol. Some folks actually like drama. I hear you though. Just messing with you. I don't like too much drama, Either. Especially the kind in my OP. Unfortunately, it comes with the territory usually. I agree. Walk--or run--unless you are prepared to deal with the drama. Not sure that possible to prepare for....
  • HonestT
    13 years ago
    Thanks for posting. Keep reading the playbook and staying mentally prepared. Eventually your skills or body will be needed in the game. Just make sure not to fumble when you get your chance. ;^)
  • quicknight
    13 years ago
    bet!
  • sharkhunter
    13 years ago
    Drama is to be expected at some point if you start seeing dancers away from the clubs. I noticed dancers start getting attached when I'm not expecting it. I never seem to expect it though. I remember one dancer talked me into sleeping with her. The only reason I slept with her, well maybe just a couple of reasons, was her persistence at the strip club and I decided it would be good exercise. She was also doing a bunch of free things at the strip club that some might consider to be extras but she never went all the way at the strip club, she wanted to meet up with me later and just wanted me horny. Anyway I thought (stupidly in hindsight now) that she wouldn't be so demanding about hooking up if I gave in and had sex with her. I swear after I had sex with her, she was all over me in the strip club. She spent the whole night watching me when I returned to the club and I didn't realize what she was doing. It was a big club and I was easily distracted with a lot of dancers. Anyway I got a few dances from a few dancers, nothing special. Then I spent a good deal of time, maybe 30 minutes? talking to one of my favorites and getting a few lap dances. I sat back down at a table in the club. The next thing I see is the dancer I slept with the previous weekend storming over towards me looking pissed. I heard her shouting something like "SO ARE YOU SLEEPING WITH HER TOO?" Drama strikes. I thought to myself, "not yet". Then I said "no". Crazy girl, that was the only time I got a dancer angry by making her wonder what I was doing with another dancer. Well that I remember. I set things straight with her and continued to get a number of dances from other dancers. She told me anytime I wanted to fuck, she would be there. I figure I must have done something right even if she was full of crap about everything she talked about. If I had been female and she was male, some of the things she said and did would have been definite creepy stalker material. As it was, I wasn't worried about a female dancer following me around or knowing things about me from many years ago when she first spotted me in a different club in a different state. The fact that she remembered everything about me, creepy but impressive.
  • sharkhunter
    13 years ago
    My very first favorite dancer that I visited away from the club, never seemed to want to have sex. The reason for that was because she was young, something like 18 to 20, and she did not tell me at the time but she had a boyfriend she thought she would eventually marry and didn't want to cheat on him by having sex with someone else. She did not consider dancing naked and alone in front of me in her house to be cheating apparently. After he left her, left her pregnant too, she suddenly wanted to hook up with me more than ever, I played it pretty cool not getting very close or even going to see her when she wanted me too (she did not tell me why over the phone). Then a few months later I got a new job and told her goodbye. She acted heartbroken and even told me she was in love with me. She may have been crying a little. Drama strikes again.
  • sharkhunter
    13 years ago
    I suddenly remembered something funny. Another dancer I knew at one time and a female friend of hers wanted to go party at the beach which was a good 2 hour drive. I drove my car. I didn't know her that well but she had recently quit the club I met her at, disagreement with the manager about not being able to leave early (with me). After we arrived at the beach, she thinks and says a bit nervously "ok, let's all agree no one does any funky shit and go off without the rest of us. All agreed?" She was looking at me when she said that. I thought it was a bit amusing. We all agreed. There were a lot of girls in one club we visited. They did not want to visit any strip clubs but I had fun anyway.
  • quicknight
    13 years ago
    @sharkhunter. thanks for sharing your adventures. i know what you mean about getting "talked into" sleeping. some of these girls can be persistent! i haven't "weakened," yet, but I'm sure the right one will wear me down eventually. OT: my brother and i went into a club last night and they have this new thing called "dollar dances," where they basically come around and do "mini" vip/lap dances for one or two songs for a buck. Not sure how I feel about this, but I got lucky a few times and got the cute girls. One I actually told "no thanks," and she was like, "its only a dollar" and wouldn't budge. Needless to say...she wasn't too happy.
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