Comments by mreef (page 4)

What none of these news articles mention are extras (obviously). In many clubs, it's not just taking off your clothes. The mother in the video above made $700 the first night and $450 the second night. Sounds pretty decent, but I guess it depends on the club. I had some dances the other week with a mother of 2 kids and she told me she worked at this club because there were no expectation of extras (unlike some other clubs), and she didn't like doing them.

Who else registers for this site other than strip club patrons? Because if he was a patron (even going infrequently), it wouldn't be difficult to put together quick reviews of places he's been. So if he's not a patron, I can only think of 3 other things: - Club owner/manager - Dancer - Law Enforcement All 3 would use the site for "research" purposes.

I posted this last week on the 19th (see thread below), including the follow-up that 150 people showed up, but most wanted to work the door/waitress/bartend, not take off their clothes.

Many want RI strip club jobs at door, not on stage March 21, 2009 PROVIDENCE, R.I.—Scores of people have applied to work at a Rhode Island strip club -- but the vast majority don't need to show any leg to get the job. Providence's Foxy Lady held a job fair Saturday, seeking to fill about 35 positions for dancers, masseuses, bartenders and bouncers. But The Providence Journal reports the vast majority of the more than 150 job seekers were men looking to work at the door -- and most of the women said they were looking for work that didn't involve taking their clothes off. Foxy Lady co-owner Tom Tsoumas (SOO'-muhs) says a recent promotion to cut prices has helped the club regain business lost due to the bad economy, forcing it to hire more employees.

Yes, definitely good PR, it showed up on the front page of CNN tonight: Strip club fair offers solution to skimpy market <http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/19/strip.club.job.fair/index.html> Although most of the dancers I've talked to have said business has been way off and much slower.

I like the comment from the guy who wrote "I had a girlfriend who danced at Cheaters some years back"... Cheaters? Did the girls used to dance there some years back? They don't do much dancing these days.

During the day, and even early weeknights, I see most customers come in alone. I only see groups late on weeknights and on weekends. I wouldn't go alone if I felt unsafe, when you are with someone else, it becomes more of a social visit. I prefer to get off, blow my wad (or else just my cash) and leave. I usually don't have the luxury of time on my side to spend hours in the club.

I wasn't familiar with the term "russian" either: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=russian+sex (For an even more interesting term, looking up "russian sex roulette" at the same site)

I definitely have a favorite type and like I said, one man's 5 is another man's 10 (and vice versa). I've never been asked what my type was, but I have told a few that I really liked that they were my type. When I asked one girl her age, she said "too old to be doing this", but she was my type. I eventually solicited her age with the promise of more LDs. One girl that approached me asked me why I didn't want a LD, so I told her. You look too young. Sorry, I don't like the young look. She replied that everyone there that night was young (18-20?), so I told her what about the dancer I just had multiple LDs from, who said she was 31 (which was probably optimistic). "Oh yeah, I forgot about her". She then walked away. :) My preference is big breasts, big ass, and I don't mind the extra pounds. But I rarely find girls that meet this description and usually end up with older, curvy. I also prefer skanks because I like my strippers to look like strippers, not the girl next door. Although truth be told, I did have a dance recently from a "girl next door" because she had a great delivery/line, I couldn't say no. And it was pretty damn good (but she did have some nice curves). We ended up talking about various things and she had a great personality. But this made me realize I don't want a personality, because I'm not looking for company, a friend or girlfriend, etc. I want a nasty girl that gives me a great fantasy/titillation that I forget about after I walk out that club. The ones with great personality, you tend to think about later, and that's not the reason I go to clubs.

>> mkreef, does your wife know that you do this? No. She did know I went many years ago when I lived in NYC with a friend that also shared my appreciation of clubs (I was with my wife at the time then too). But she doesn't know that I have started going again.

For me, the itch is not mutually exclusive with being in love with a woman and having a relationship. I've been married 15 years, have a great relationship with my wife, we have great sex and a happy marriage. Yet it doesn't minimize my desire to go to clubs. Part of it must be that I just resumed going after a long unintentional hiatus. I can afford it now much easier than in the past (I suppose if I was struggling to pay the mortgage, clubs would be last on my mind). A great full two-way contact lap dance feels like a way to experience other women without violating the faith of our union. I don't consider it cheating (if you forgo extras), it is pure titillation. I have to admit, I love driving home from a strip club and still smelling the dancer on me. Although it's given me a bit of a pause as to whether my wife would smell the perfume as well. A real affair with another person, with both the emotional and sexual aspects, feels much more damaging to a marriage than getting a lap dance from a girl I only see in the club. That said, I do feel like I have a bit of an addiction and need to slow down. I'm averaging 2-3 clubs per week and need to slow down in order to reduced the time it's taking up, as well as the cost. I'd like to scale back to once per month and spend about $200 to $250. I could see myself doing this for a long time, looking forward to my one visit a month with a good amount of dances with the various girls (both ATF and new ones). I'm currently averaging $120 to $200 per visit and with the last 8+ visits in the last 3 weeks, it's getting too expensive.

While waiting for the next song for a LD, the girl asked if I had any kids. Although I thought this would be a real turn off, I didn't mind telling her about my 4 kids and hearing about hers. And as soon as the dance started, all thoughts of my kids or her kids vanished.

Thanks guys. I decided to go to a new club tonight that I knew had two way contact. Wow! Not sure how I'm going to go back to any of the other clubs that don't offer a similar experience.

$5 dances, was this in the last decade? If so, where?

The same was true of me. I used to go a lot with friends in NYC (that also loved clubs), but 15 years later and a married father, I wanted to go back and wondered if it would be weird going alone. What I've observed (and perhaps hadn't noticed before) is that are a bunch of guys that show up alone. The biggest groups seem to come Friday and Saturday nights and those are typically nights I'm not available. Especially the afternoon crowd seems to be a lot of guys by themselves. I often have to make opportunistic visits (going out for something, want to stop by the club for an hour), it's not something that could be easily coordinated with others. And best of all, I can leave immediately when I'm done with my cash, or had enough lap dances, etc. I don’t have to wait around for a buddy. And since I'm keeping this a secret from my wife, there are no issues with a friend spilling the beans, etc. The idea of feeling out of place going alone kept me out of the clubs for too long. I've yet to feel that way at all.

Good idea on the money that I realized the other day. I've already set aside my "stripper envelope" and started it off with $200 and $20 singles. That way when I can get out, I already have the dance/tip money. I did a lunch outing last week, only 2 or 3 customers in the club, but there was one girl I really liked and gave great dances, so after asking her schedule (weekdays only), I'll be going there for lunch again next week. The toughest part for me is visiting the great clubs (per reviews here) that are 90 minutes away. That's 3 hours just driving. My wife doesn't go out of town and with 4 kids, I can't just take off for 4 or 5 hours on the weekend. :)

1. I'm having a party... in my pants! 2. Internet porn gets boring after a while. 3. The smell. The touch. 4. My wife is fat (I can handle that) and doesn't put out anymore (I can't handle that).

I just came across this article yesterday: http://www.dnainfo.com/20110803/midtown/new-book-gives-peek-into-life-inside-times-squares-peep-shows and thought "that's not how I remember the nyc peep shows", glass partitions between the girls and customers would be no fun. Not sure when that ended, can we blame Giuliani for that? I just

Articles like this are the reason I'm reminded why I don't do extras.<br /> <br /> I was talking about Vegas with my wife the other day and she said &quot;What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas does not apply to STDs!&quot;<br type="_moz" />

My wife does not know, nor do I have any desire to tell her.&nbsp; I've been happily married for 15 years.&nbsp; I don't want her to come with me.&nbsp; I like to get full contact LDs, but I draw the line at extras.&nbsp; First I am cheap and second it would cross the line of cheating IMHO.&nbsp; It allows me to have some contact but not sex with hot, young and most importantly DIFFERENT women.<br type="_moz" />

I use 4 browsers, Firefox, IE, Chrome and Safari.&nbsp; IE, Chrome and Safari all have the default settings for saving history, cookies, etc.<br /> <br /> But I have FF configured to clear all settings (there are 9 distinct options) when exiting.&nbsp; So I always browse tuscl and other such sites under FF and always make sure to exit the browser before leaving my computer.<br /> <br /> This works great for my situation (wife and kids at home, but this is my personal laptop and others don't use it).<br /> <br /> <br /> One caveat:&nbsp; with this configuration you need to make sure all FF windows have closed so the process exits.&nbsp; If you have a popup window and you close the main browser window, FF is still running and will not clear your history.&nbsp;&nbsp; You must explicitly select File | Exit.<br /> <br /> <br type="_moz" />