Comments by TessieV (page 2)

FONDL...you guys have me so confused (okay BookGuy, guess I just totally walked myself into your next insult) WHEN did I try to argue with anyone about their opinions? If I did not want them, I would not have asked for them. PLEASE tell me how I attempted to tell others how/what they should think. The only time that I have even came close with being rude to ANYONE on this site is my response to BookGuy's insults...and I'm not sorry about that, as I feel them completely unwarranted. I am totally aware that this site isn't PC...and thank God that it isn't. Upon stumbling onto this site, I wondered why there were so few female posters. (After all,without both women AND customers it would be impossible to operate a SC.) After experiencing the scorn of some of the males here, I now see why. The girls are simply ran off.

Nepal's is a nice place, Last time I visited, I found it kind of boring, though. I prefer a much more up-beat atmosphere. When I was there, it was only topless, did they change it?

BookGuy...NEVER once did I say that I work for free. I am NOT a new dancer. I've been in this business for years. ..but unlike yourself, I am aware that I cannot possibly know everything there is to know about anything. I never realized that SC customers would have such a problem answering a question about how they PREFER to be treated.

Wow, BookGuy. Women Hater? Since you seem like such a nice guy, maybe I can help YOU out. The first step is to forgive your mother. Seriously, though. It appears you have a real problem with dancers. Why do you even bother? I simply wanted to get the numbers from a customer's perspective. Forgive me for intruding upon "your" discussion board with my inane questions.

I understand what you're saying, Scott... if you are a low-mileage girl, it's best to work in low-mileage clubs.

driver01, I'm with you on that one. Imagine the nerve of that girl! I don't see how you were mislead at all Book Guy. The other girls in a club do not determine what I will or will not do.

Fondl...never said that it would run you, specifically that amount. And I also don't set the prices at the club. Having said that, when it's in "season, "there are never any shortages of customers willing to pay just that.

David...I didn't say that for the hell of it. As long as a guy isn't rude about it, the rejection doesn't phase me. I just move on to someone who is interested. I learned a long time ago that you will never make it as a dancer if you let it get to you.

Clubber...you're exactly right. Alot of times, I will also walk around the room without stopping anywhere. 9 times out of 10 someone will either make direct eye-contact or just stop me.

lopaw, lol...Since I am VERY much bi, I wouldn't mind being "caught" by a hot women, either. If I were to develop a regular, OTC relationship with a guy who enjoyed private sessions, then yeah...perhaps nature would take its course. But I am not a prostitute. Not that I look down on anyone for what they do to get by, but it's just not a decision I have made myself. I have been approached many times for OTC dances. I will not do it unless the guy understands UP-FRONT, that no penetration involved. I usually charge $250 an hour. Never had any complaints, and to be strictly no sex, I usually always get a generous tip. There have been cases where I liked the guy, and wanted to get to know him outside of the typical "customer" relationship. In that case, while there was sex, there was NO charge. Fondl,Yes, I am in a very low-mileage area. A VIP session at my club will run you $300 for half-hour, and the maximum mileage you could expect is some touching. There are cameras in random suites, and you don't know which ones are on any given night. The customer can tip the floormen, and that affords you a bit more privacy, at least he isn't running in and out poking his head in the room...but as I stated, there is only so much privacy you can expect with cameras.

Just my two cents worth: I would never, ever fill a guy in on how "bad" that I am doing financially. EVER. EVEN if a customer says something to me along the lines of, "it's so dead around here now, how are you making it?" "You making money tonight?" "There's a bunch of non-tippers/cheapskates/rocks in here tonight..." etc..I know for a fact that he doesn't want to hear the details of my crappy night/week/month...I realize that he is just trying to be polite, but hearing my sob story is definitely not what he came there for. Even if I am traveling, paying for my hotel, and it is five minutes before closing, so I know that I am walking out of work that night in the negative I usually just reply something to the effect of, "the great nights more than make up for the slow times, and it all averages out in the end." I find that men appreciate that alot more and I am more likely to get that dance than the girl who just left his table after having whined about her bad night, her kids, etc. I have children also, but I don't bring them with me to the strip club for a reason.

trojangreg, nothing personal, but I did mean for the question to be directed at those who WOULD like dances done OTC...Contrary to very popular belief, the terms "stripper," and "prostitute" aren't synonymous with one another. Maybe it's just me, but I guess I just don't get it, but I've never quite understood why men try to pay dancers for sex. If you are trying to get f**ked, wouldn't you go to someone who specializes in that area? It's kinda like asking a carpenter to repair your plumbing...bad analogy, I know but just my way of thinking...

I'm just wondering what part of the US you all are located in. I've worked all over the SE and have MAYBE worked in one club where it would even be possible to give (or allow self-service) a guy a HJ during a dance. Even in the VIP rooms, it would be a huge risk because in most clubs there are: a-cameras in random rooms (as well as) b-floormen who will peek in every so often.

I'm a bit confused...wouldn't you rather her be upfront about her rules/lack thereof so that you know exactly what to expect? Maybe I'm naive (have danced for many years, so I don't think so) but the only time I think that I will discuss "rules" up-front is if I'm asked, or if I knew for a fact that a customer had been getting high-mileage dances from other girls, because I would want him to know up-front what my boundaries are so he doesn't walk away feeling ripped off at the end. Other that, I wouldn't. To me it seems that listing a set of rules and boundaries before climbing on someone's lap takes away alot of fantasy, and just makes it clinical.

ahh..thanks

No way that PSYCHOBITCH is just about the money if she's giving away free handjobs.

alot of females do this in attempt to score private shows outside of the club

This is completely true. Two dancers with similar looks/features will both be attractive to the same customers. Therefore, they are in direct competition with one another, and not necessarily every other girl in the club.

Alot of time when women ask for the money upfront, it is only because they learned the hard way that if a customer rips them off, nine times out of ten management is going to tell them, "you should have gotten your money up front." That is not necessarily a good indicator of a ROB.

Casualguy, what I meant was the stage lights in clubs (some obviously moreso than others) tend to shine in the girls eyes, and it can be very hard to see from what I understand. Even if you are holding up a dollar.

Misterguy, I just had to reply to your "deadbeat" comment. I actually worked in a club a few years ago as manager, and I gotta tell you, the girls absolutely do NOT refer to the men who sit and only tip as deadbeats. If the girl is a professional, she will not mind that. At least they are trying. The "deadbeats" are the ones who come in, sit as close to the stage as possible, gawk at every single girl who performs, and never tips anyone. Or the guy who vicariously "participates" in other guy's table dances, yet never buys his own. THAT's what the girls hate. I also have never seen a girl rip up a one dollar tip UNLESS they somehow felt that the man offering it to them was disrespectful. "you better work for this dollar," "is that IT?!?," "give me something special for this tip.."etc. Those are all lines that will get your money torn, whether it is a single or a benjamin and thrown right back at you.

Casualguy, could it have been that she just didn't see you hold up your dollar? I hear that it's hard for women to see into the crowd while onstage due to the lights shining in their faces.

"I don't like to brag, but this one seems to call for it. If DATY is considered nasty, my nastiest thing during a dance was eating a stripper's pussy for two whole songs at the stage on more than one occasion. She'd do a three song set. By the end of the first song, she'd be spread before me offering herself, and I'd go at it until the end of her set." CHANDLER...you ate her out at the main stage WHILE she was performing..FOR TWO SONGS? Come on! PLEASE, tell me how you managed this. This I gotta hear.