So what, precisely, is the script?
So there seems to be a general concensus that up front negotiation about the rules and what's on the menu is frequently the best approach to negotiating an upstairs experience but I wonder--what do people actually say? Is it brutally blunt as in "What will it cost me to get a blow job from you?" Is it more coy and indirect? Is it talking a bit and getting some comfort and then "so, sweetie, what's on the menu when I take you upstairs?" What do you say? What's worked, what hasn't?
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You will have to get a sense of how discriminate she is, and how important controlling the situation is to her, or whether she just fucks anyone irregardless, and play it from there.
Good luck. No "one-size fits all" rules. But that is part of the fun!
Perhaps, I misunderstood your post but you did NOT say she offered you the moon and the stars and then did not deliver. Only that it just "happened to turn out" that she was low contact and didn't tell you. I don't think if you ask a dancer for a dance she is obligated to inform you she only delivers what the law allows--lol.
The other girls in a club do not determine what I will or will not do.
Book Guy wasn't in my opinion "misled" at all, but if a dancer is tagged with that rep--fairly or otherwise--it's obviously not helpful to her.
As long as the dancer provides the service she is hired to perform, I say more power to her. And if the patron wants more than she is willing to give that's one of the reasons clubs have more than one dancer working at a time-- variety is the spice of life...just one man's opinion.
If I feel a chemistry at the onset, I will approach her more cautiously, and take it slow. I will not ask upfront what is allowed. When it comes to the dance, I will pretty much sit on my hands, and not take any liberties or make any attempts to get "grabby" with her. Usually, the dancer, when she is comfortable with me, or frustrated with my lack of aggression, will take my hands and lead them where she wants them. I've had GREAT success with that method, and it has led to several "relationships". This is my USUAL approach.
If I see the dancer as someone I don't see a future in, or perhaps and dancer at a club that I don't expect to return to anytime soon, I will asking her what she will allow, and if she doesn't explicitly mention something of interest to me, I will bluntly ask her if I can do [such and such].
This puts the information second hand and leaves the door open that it was a different club. It gives a lot of wiggly room.
I remember one instance at the Platinum Plus in Memphis one afternoon when my son and I was celebrating his 22nd birthday. I took this HOT dancer to their VIP and was provided a price menu, broken down by HJ, BJ, FS. I opted for the FS and for my son's birthday gift, I paid for his FS. What a country!!!
Some dancers seem to be like that, get alone with them and there's no telling what they might do with certain guys. Other dancers, they would complain if you even accidently touch them slightly above their waist. They are all different and apparently have a lot of different backgrounds.
Only once have I had a dancer come up to me at the bar (my normal spot), say hello, and start to molest me and whisper in my ear, "I want to suck your cock!" You know what, she did, a number of times!
There are types of clubs out there, where a gal plays entirely off of a guy's gullibility. "I'll make it a wonderful experience" she says, licking her lips and making a pointed stare at his belt buckle. Then she sticks her index finger in her mouth, sucks on it like a lollipop, does the cheek-popping noise, and says, "You'll pop your cork, I'm sure." Turns out she's a zero-contact dancer? He's expected to pay $200 up front for 15 minutes with her, and all she does is air-dance. And yet the club is known to be a brothel? That would be deliberately misleading the customer, even though no overt statement was made which could be pinned on her as actually misleading.
It's all about context. Mostly I personally don't get into these scrapes, though I can see how a less expert club goer could. Most of the self protection is about not going to those sorts of clubs in the first place. When I go to a brothel, yer dang tootin' it's a full-service RELIABLE brothel!
"You're right, if she didn't actually say she'd do X, and then she went to the back room and did NOT do X, she wasn't technically misleading." Etc. I'm sure most of you got the gist. I'm just being redundant now. Best wishes. :)
Do you really enjoy the "challange" or "mystique" of what is about to happen in a VIP, what is about to go down in a VIP?