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15 years ago
Dang it gatorfan, I thought it was Ass Titties and Frolic!
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15 years ago
I don't know that I have "a line". Maybe offer her a seat and I just go with whatever she starts talking about.
Although I figure this might work:
Her: "I don't know anything about you"
Me: "I like to fuck" Probably helps to be holding a Benjamin in the other hand.
LOL - YMMV and don't blame me.
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15 years ago
Work stuff only while at work, restricted network and their computers are too slow for my taste anyway. LOL
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15 years ago
First off, ShadowCat - Glad you're ok.
As for the Black Helicopter conspiracy theorists above:
I'd say it went something like this...Motel calls 911, "Someone just fell down the stairs!!!" Yes, that makes it sound worse than it was but thats the way things happen.
PD was probably sent with the ambulance as a routine response. They all thought you needed to go to the hospital, so the PD question of jail or hospital is generally answered, "Hospital". Its was as much of a liability issue for the PD and EMS crews as anything. Not saying that Shadowcat would sue, but alot of other people will litigate at the drop of a hat.
Ask Gridget, I bet she says pretty much the same thing.
Again, glad you're ok.
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15 years ago
My current favorite club will skip the dancer if she is giving a VIP dance. That's the way it should be.
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15 years ago
The first time I visited a club I never expected any type of contact, didn't know lap dances existed, just sheltered I guess. That first visit was pasties and g-strings but two way contact all above the waist for both of us...and I tried several dancers.
I heard about the girls at the "trashy" club across town on my next visit. That made me curious, so off I went to this other club...oh and this was long before I found this site. I sat down, watched one girl on stage get completely naked and suddenly this cute brunette sits down with me, asks if I've ever been to the club before, "No, I haven't". We chatted through another couple of dancer routines. I'd already asked the price of lap dances, not out of line with the first club. The music got a little louder and she leans over and asks if I want a private dance. I hedged, enjoying the conversation and said maybe in a few minutes. The music got a little louder and she leaned a little closer and says, "for an extra $$$ we can FUCK!" Little head IMMEDIATELY takes over and says lead the way, why are we still sitting here? She was hot and I was horny. The rest is history.
I really don't enjoy a club anymore that I don't get a BJ or FS, I mean what's the point in going?
I've had a few ATF's over the years, really based on their oral talents and the ability to carry on some sort of a conversation.
That's my SC criteria, and I'm sticking to it!
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15 years ago
I don't post very often, but up until recently I will admit to not being sure how far was too far on the Discussion Board. It seems that some degree of raunchiness is acceptible, that just makes it more entertaining. I'm not a fan of the personal attacks either.
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15 years ago
Simple, protect the flock and the pack. A new wolf must prove himself (herself). The new wolf must be accepted in person by the other wolves present. The pack must observe the new wolf's actions with the flock as the pack watches. If the new wolf proves worthy and is respectful of both the pack and the flock then the new wolf might be accepted by both pack and flock.
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15 years ago
Player11,
I have to disagree with you. You've just admitted to paying double in a Houston club what you could get from a girl on this backpage.com
I had a few minutes to kill and looked on that website at a few of the cities I visit. I found the same pics with different scams. Even IF you actually found a real ad and a real girl, its still a completely unknown quantity. I'm not gonna throw money away like that. I'm sure not gonna start giving out phone numbers and credit card numbers. Duh, how stupid are some people. Please note I'm not calling Player11 stupid, sounds like he doesn't fall for that shit either.
Back to the OP, this one sounds like the real deal, a known quantity. She offered him a $500 deal, said the normal price was $1K so he's getting half off. Hmmmm, didn't i just see that same advertising gimmick at my local brick and mortar electronics store last week? They've NEVER sold a TV for what the original list price shows on the sale tag, but its still listed.
I still say she'll negotiate down from the $500. From her point of view its better to negotiate down from $500 than from $200. Hell, it was worth a shot to see if he'd pay the full $500. Can't blame a girl for trying!
Good luck SC!
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15 years ago
Almost 6 hours to the Memphis PP. Made that run a couple of times before it was shut down. That was my first REAL strip club visit. At the moment I drive about 2 hours for my usual club.
Something tells me I'll be headed for the Carolinas in a few months.
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15 years ago
Damn, that's a difficult position to be in.
If you want her that much, I'd set a few ground rules for the $500. I would make sure the time spent together is worth the money. For example, if your $150 FS is an hour then she will need to put in at least 3 hours, maybe 4, negotiate. One happy ending will not be enough. Have your way with her, take her to dinner and allow both of you to relax and reset, then take her back to your room and fuck the hell out of her again.
You MUST set limits much higher than what you normally expect for $150 with the others. A $500 adventure will eventually get out, feelings may be hurt and prices will go up. She may be that special conquest to you, but its like the fantastic deals you get on lap dances, if you start more than tripling the price you are willing to pay how long will it be before all the prices increase?
You said her dances were no extras until this past year, then they started getting better. You don't say how, and I won't pry. Has she really been getting $1K, or is that part of the upsell? Just like buying a new car, you've gotta be willing to walk away from the table. If she's gone from no extras to DFK, BJ and DATY that quick I'll bet she'll chase you down for your terms.
The chase may be almost as much fun as the catch, especially if she's constantly ramping up her sales pitch.
Good Luck!
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15 years ago
Shadowcat, Unfortunately the Air Dance is not always a table dance. ROB's may fit in this catagory, and truly lame clubs fit here.
I look forward to the time I can make it to your favorite club. It sounds like my kind of place.
Txtittyfan, this is only a rough guide. All regions of the country may not reach the top tier CDWM performance. This isn't a bell curve, if the best dances only make Lap Dance, then that means topped out at the middle of the road.
Dudester, I'd have to say your Sensual Dance falls into the upper Lap Dance catagory. She's moving slow, making you pay for more dances while you aren't getting any bang for your buck. If she isn't playing with your dick and you aren't going to have an intentional happy ending, then you've had a good lap dance, nothing more.
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15 years ago
As always, YMMV, but my last post is a general guideline to the levels of private dances.
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15 years ago
There are four kinds of private dances in a club.
"Air Dance" - One Song
- You don't touch her at all, she may or may not brush you above the waist a little.
"Lap Dance" - Two-Three Songs
- She touches you a little, mostly chest, some cheek to cheek and she allows you to squeeze her tits and ass, may get a quick nipple in the mouth, but she'll pull away after a moment or two. She might even give you a decent grind.
"Intimate Dance" - Three-Five Songs
- She'll grab your dick with her hand through your pants, maybe a hand up your shorts for more direct contact. She'll bite your dick through your pants. You can lick-suck-kiss her nipples at your leisure and your fingers are allowed outside kitty access. This one should have a happy ending, either HJ or poss BJ. This is where the foreplay definition begins.
The "Cum Dance With Me" - Three to However Many Songs You Last
- Starts with her whispering just exactly what she plans to do with you, or more importantly Mr. Happy, to convince you what she's going to do during multiple dances. (Most likely a dancer you've been with before, and probably already had a few dances with during the current visit.) There may or may not be any actual dancing involved. Your dick is in her hand within two minutes of the first song starting. Your dick has been in her mouth within two minutes of the second song starting. You've slipped your fingers inside her by the end of the second song, You are fucking her by the end of the third song, and the number of songs depends on how long you last. This is also ITC. I still consider this Foreplay because there won't be multiple pops for you.
Finally "OTC" - Not measured in songs, but in hours.
- Anything goes that you are both comfortable with. No prying eyes, no danger of being discovered, complete privacy. This is where you are most likely to give her a real orgasm of her own.
*Note* This is NOT "She took me out to my car in the parking lot for 15 minutes." The parking lot is at best the "Intimate Dance" from above.
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15 years ago
Heavy Petting = Heavy rubbing and release while inside the pants and zipped up. Doesn't matter if hand or mouth is used. NOT an extra.
HJ = The definition of HJ implies stroking, which means her hand must be able to completely surround the shaft.
I consider a good HJ with release to be a mild extra.
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15 years ago
I don't really care for the extra 4" platform look, but the platform shoes went too far when the clear platforms started showing up with the flashing LED's. That's just annoying to watch.
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15 years ago
10inches is right about the best lube being pussy juice. Nope, not always an option, but more fun when it works!
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15 years ago
I like a dark corner if I can find one. I'd rather be able to sit back and observe, especially if I'm in a new club. I also like the darker area if a dancer is trying to convince me I want lap dances from her, she may try a little harder without an audience.
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15 years ago
No, I wasn't guessing. PP was the only Memphis club I really frequented, and not enough to have an ATF. I think I only went to Christies once or twice. I haven't been back to Memphis since PP closed. I never made it to Danny's, that was before my clubbing days.
Memphis isn't on one of my normal travel routes and PP was usually a special trip. I need to get over to the PP in Columbia, but work and other committments always seem to prevent that trip when the group is going.
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15 years ago
I miss the PP in Memphis, wasn't a regular hangout for me, but it sure was fun when I could get there. I'd spend 8-10 hours at a time in there. I miss the girls coming around and sitting in your lap to tease you into a private dance, Christies in Memphis was the only other club I found that was that satisfying.
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15 years ago
I miss the PP in Memphis, wasn't a regular hangout for me, but it sure was fun when I could get there. I'd spend 8-10 hours at a time in there. I miss the girls coming around and sitting in your lap to tease you into a private dance, Christies in Memphis was the only other club I found that was that satisfying.
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15 years ago
So...lets take this a little further. If the double BJ's are going well, you've found the right girls that really go together, and its becoming a semi-regular activity, do you go further? Do you test the waters for FS?
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15 years ago
The only way to have a good double BJ is to find two girls that really like each other and work well together. Shadowcat, I'm sure you already knew that but others may not have thought about it.
Just because you see the tag team wandering around the club together, doesn't mean they'll perform that well together. Fulfilling the fantasy of having two women at the same time is easy for them to pull off, but only one provides any real service, they've both made the dance money and probably a little extra for having a threesome.
I'm always careful about my selections, I'm not looking for a perfomer and a spectator that both feel they deserve the same money.
You've got to find two girls that are willing to swap spit, because that's what they'll be doing. The ones you want most likely don't advertise, but will get together with another dancer they're comfortable with and take care of business, you almost have to be a regular to figure out if it'll work between you and the two.
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15 years ago
The oldest I've had ITC was 47, good body, kinda showing it in the face. Met her the first time when the club was slow, she was reasonable in her tip expectations and I decided to take a chance. Excellent oral skills and was willing to do anything. Still pretty tight too, she must do her exercises. Oh, and a great personality.
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15 years ago
Txtittyfan,
I was thinking the same thing. Although I'm not gonna do any of the three without protection in a club.
I've found very few ITC that claimed to be willing to do anal, and have yet to find one I would consider actually taking them up on the offer.