Loyalty?
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Over the past 5 or 6 years I’ve written articles, many discussions, and innumerable comments regarding my all time favorite dancer. It should be noted that each PL may only have one ATF. Your ATF may change when you find one better than the last, but that never happened with me. I’ve been with quite a few dancers and some very attractive, lots of fun strippers, but none could dislodge my ATF from the pedestal upon which I placed her ( and that was the start of the problem).
After I’d been seeing her ITC and OTC for a couple of years, I was sitting at the stage and she was dancing, naked as a jay-bird. The fellow beside me was tipping her heavily and she was giving him lots of attention - spread leg beaver shots, tits in his face, even her “signature move” where she lay on the tip rail, lifted her leg closest to the PL, hooked her knee behind his head and pulled him in so his nose was about 6 inches from the pink. Anyway, they were talking about his boat, his cars, and clearly were continuing a conversation begun earlier. Her 3 song set ended, she gathered her money and her clothes and left the stage. As the next dancer began her dance, this gent turned to me and with mild braggadocio, leaned toward me and said that he’d been here the week before and the gal who left the stage and he did an hour Champagne Room and she gave him the best blowjob he’d ever had. I said, gee, I didn’t know they did that here.
She came out of the dressing room, approached us, leaned in and kissed me, saying c’mon, let’s go upstairs. Then she turned to him and said, I hope you can stick around. I hope to see you in an hour.
When we got upstairs, I laughingly told her what he had said. Her response? Yeh, a lot of guys have told me that. She went on to say the guy was a lawyer who lived in a pricey community near Boston and she was trying to line him up as a regular customer.
I never expected fidelity or exclusivity from a dancer who was selling me the goods. How do others feel about this? Are you gullible enough to think “I don’t do this with anyone else”? Are you convinced that you are among a select few who have the key to her chastity belt? Or is this one possible reason why you don’t go to the clubs for extras?
After I’d been seeing her ITC and OTC for a couple of years, I was sitting at the stage and she was dancing, naked as a jay-bird. The fellow beside me was tipping her heavily and she was giving him lots of attention - spread leg beaver shots, tits in his face, even her “signature move” where she lay on the tip rail, lifted her leg closest to the PL, hooked her knee behind his head and pulled him in so his nose was about 6 inches from the pink. Anyway, they were talking about his boat, his cars, and clearly were continuing a conversation begun earlier. Her 3 song set ended, she gathered her money and her clothes and left the stage. As the next dancer began her dance, this gent turned to me and with mild braggadocio, leaned toward me and said that he’d been here the week before and the gal who left the stage and he did an hour Champagne Room and she gave him the best blowjob he’d ever had. I said, gee, I didn’t know they did that here.
She came out of the dressing room, approached us, leaned in and kissed me, saying c’mon, let’s go upstairs. Then she turned to him and said, I hope you can stick around. I hope to see you in an hour.
When we got upstairs, I laughingly told her what he had said. Her response? Yeh, a lot of guys have told me that. She went on to say the guy was a lawyer who lived in a pricey community near Boston and she was trying to line him up as a regular customer.
I never expected fidelity or exclusivity from a dancer who was selling me the goods. How do others feel about this? Are you gullible enough to think “I don’t do this with anyone else”? Are you convinced that you are among a select few who have the key to her chastity belt? Or is this one possible reason why you don’t go to the clubs for extras?
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The clubs are for new girls.
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With that expectation on my part, I lose the right to expect any sort of exclusivity from her. And I'm too smart to think she'd grant me such a thing anyway. Maybe not too smart by much, but smart enough to not make an asshole of myself.
This resonates.
I'm aware of the other guys my CF messes around with/has messed around with. I've shared some info from my side as well. It works out - I don't expect it to last forever - we have lots of fun when I see her.
Work is my priority and focus, so going to the club is a nice time to relax and have fun.
Similar situation when I travel routinely and see other girls in another state.
But I've never even bothered to think any of the others I've been with were exclusive.
PL's and Womanizers will both often be giving money to women. But they do this for opposite reasons.
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Then rather than going into back rooms, they just finish what they've started on couches in darkened corners.
Probably more plausible deniability for the house that way.
SJG
During the time we are together - I expect she will feign interest in me - and I expect her to deliver sexually.
Once my paid time is over - she’s back in circulation - as she’s working. I expect her to hustle to sell dances.
I have no misperception of the nature of our interaction - as it’s business.
LOL fluid dynamics = well played, @FLF
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But there are also common sense ways to find lower volume girls. The most obvious is to avoid girls who fuck and suck ITC. I only take girls out of clubs that don't allow ITC fucking and sucking and it reasonably ensures that my cock is the only one that has been inside her for the last several hours. Nothing is foolproof obviously, but I have no interest in being x of yy served in a given night.
I've had a total of 1 ATF. She still is as no one ever replaced her.
One evening she was sitting with me in the club and said she needed to go see the customer that just walked in. She left for about 10 minutes, talking to him, then returned to me. Told me the story. He was sort of her BF, but not quite. Turned out later she moved in with him, but never failed to keep spending our time together. They spilt sometime later and she moved away as not to be close to him. That's another story. It was also not long after that I stopped seeing her. Travel was the reason.
@ATACdawg well played, but don't forget the diameter of the pee-hole!
Sounds to me we had to completely different experiences. We didn't become friends in one night and she unloaded on me. Never treated me as her BF, especially since I knew she had one. Never tried to lay her issues on me.
The evening we met and talked, turned out she knew my son. There was about a 30 year difference in our ages. Anyway, we progressed from there. She even became a friend with my family and attended family events. Our secret was just that, OURS. I was the one that ended the club relationship.
While there might be some perceived exceptions to the rule, it has more to do with what one considers loyalty than actually praticing or experiencing loyalty.
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And due to psychological and medical torture, Dugan believes that he is a Rick. He is not, he is a hairless ape. He is the Last Man.
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She asked me if I was ready for vip. I said yes. I did not say that it had to be from her. She needs to be more specific when asking me a question because I truly have no loyalty to any particular dancer.
My last OTC dancer never did anything ITC, but would maybe see guys OTC 2-3 month.
My ATF claimed I was the only person she'd done anything sexual with OTC and I believed her because she felt guilty since she had a BF and pretty much stopped dancing.
In general, I'm under no illusion that I'm anything special to any dancer.
Prudent mental and RIL avoidance strategy.