Do you DATY with strippers?
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
Do you go down on strippers? Why? You are the one paying. So why should you do something to please her? Does Daty actually do Anything for you? Does your tongue get tired? Do they Cum? Or do they just say they do. What does it take for you to want to go down on them? Are you concerned about some guy fucking her just before you start munching? Are you concerned about STD's? What % of strippers, if any, have you gone down on?
For me, I want the GFE. Anybody can pay a stripper to do BBBJ or CFS but to achieve the GFE it takes some doing. First of all I have to find her attractive to my tastes. She has to be fun and appear to be enjoying herself even though she is being paid for it. I have to be her first customer of the day. I do get there early to ensure that. If she really gets into DFK it is a very good sign that she is into it and wants you both to have a good time. That is when I am ready to find the little man in the boat with my tongue. I've done DATY often enough to know when she is really getting hot and bothered. She grabs my head and pushes into me. Yes my tongue does get tired but I keep at it until I feel that familiar quiver go through her body. I would say that I DATY with about 35% of all strippers that I go to VIP with. I'm too old to worry about STD's. :)
Once she has been satisfied at least once, she is then ready to do the same for you. So in a way, I pay for the pussy twice but it can be worth it.
For me, I want the GFE. Anybody can pay a stripper to do BBBJ or CFS but to achieve the GFE it takes some doing. First of all I have to find her attractive to my tastes. She has to be fun and appear to be enjoying herself even though she is being paid for it. I have to be her first customer of the day. I do get there early to ensure that. If she really gets into DFK it is a very good sign that she is into it and wants you both to have a good time. That is when I am ready to find the little man in the boat with my tongue. I've done DATY often enough to know when she is really getting hot and bothered. She grabs my head and pushes into me. Yes my tongue does get tired but I keep at it until I feel that familiar quiver go through her body. I would say that I DATY with about 35% of all strippers that I go to VIP with. I'm too old to worry about STD's. :)
Once she has been satisfied at least once, she is then ready to do the same for you. So in a way, I pay for the pussy twice but it can be worth it.
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I also have a hard time going to VIP with a dancer after I've seen her come out with someone else before I head in. That's not a rule, but more of a guideline - and enough bourbons will make you eliminate all your rules/guidelines!
In the club, it has to be her first VIP of the day. OTC it's immediately after we've both showered. In two years I've gone to rejecting DATY out of hand to enjoying it immensely with a select few strippers. In fact, 69 with my ATF is my single favorite sexual activity.
I SC a lot but on most-visits I don't go w/ extras on my mind - extras for me happen on some-visits kinda on the spur of the moment - in my 15+ year SC career I've probably gone down on strippers a handful of times; fear of STD is what keeps me from doing it more other than it's not a must-have for me - suppossedly DATY has the posbility of causing throat-cancer and that may be worse than an STD.
I have rarely done OTC (not my thing) but I imagine if I did I may be tempted to do DATY in that scenario, but w.r.t. DATY would only be sorta comfortable w/ it in a monogamous relationship.
w.r.t. other custies having done extras prior to me, I don't cringe at the thought but if I see it w/ my own eyes I'd probably have a bit of a negative reaction to it but probably not enough to stop me from getting what I need.
I love DATY, when I'm insanely attracted to the woman and she drives me crazy sexually. That applies to both civilians and strippers: It doesn't matter that I'm the one paying (for dinner and a movie, or for the hotel room and her fee), I love it, I enjoy it ... if she drives me crazy enough. And since I don't tend to OTC with strippers until they're my CF -- in which case, she I AM insanely attracted to her and she DOES drive me crazy sexually -- I totally want to DATY my OTCs/CFs/ATFs.
Nevertheless, I DO NOT. For me, it's strictly about disease risk -- and there IS a risk that varies from medium-to-high risk of transmission (e.g., herpes, HPV) to low (HIV). So it's verboten. Over the years I've had a small number of exceptions, but as a general rule, it's not something I do with strippers.
Why? I enjoy it. Some girls we've moved from a strictly P4P type thing and we're fucking because we want to, so if I know she likes it I'll do it.
Am I concerned about STD's, yea, a bit. Obviously not enough to completely stop, but there are certainly cases where I'd otherwise want to but decide against it because I don't feel its worth the risk.
What %? That's hard. Low, lower than 35% for sure. Maybe 5%. But, like I said, I do enjoy it, so I rather strongly tend to prefer the girls I do it with over those I won't.
Some other comments, I'm usually a first customer of a the day kinda guy myself too. I've come in later in the afternoon and done ITC before, but if I see her coming out of the back I don't take her back there myself. It's probably a silly hangup, but that's how I usually react.
But I have to qualify that for me its been far more often in AMPs than SC's, because our SC's are tightly controlled. But I still let the girls know that I would want to.
As far as hygiene concerns, the girls clean themselves up. And also, as our clubs are very low mileage, that is meaningless. In our AMPs, they are still lower median mileage, compared to SF.
Now as far as why, first of all, the girls always like it. In some AMPs the girls will want to shift to FS before going over the top, but other times no, as they are really liking it and really getting into it. Some are surprised that I'll let them go all the way over the top. But then it goes to BJ, and then FS. I am good with them, and they cum easier and easier each time.
But why pleasure them when I am paying? Well usually the man is paying, one way or another. And it really is women who get more physical pleasure out of sex anyway, if it is well done.
And sex is mutual. Mostly what it is is getting the woman to let down her defenses, and let you pleasure her. Because pleasuring her is how you get a claim on her, move towards getting her belonging to you.
In some tantric schools the man is not to cum at all, as that way he can go very long and do lots of women. Either they don't come, or they just come on a portion of the rounds.
If you let her make you ejaculate, then you are telling her that are not proximally interested in fucking her. Even if you can do multiple rounds, that ejaculation is still one round less. If you really want her, you focus on FS loads because that has a much greater psychological effect on her, saving BJ 'till completion for some later times when you have a long time interval with her, and like when she is PMs.
DATY and FIV are capacity multipliers. BJ and HJ 'till completion are wasted capacity.
Also, you learn how to use your thumb with DATY, most of the time they explode right away, and the thumb gives their muscles something to clamp down on. Do that with her, and you've already got a claim on her because that experience blows her mind.
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And if you don't like her enough to do all these things with her, along with lots of DFKing, then why not just hold onto your money and go home?
Also I have found that when talking dirty with strippers, if you talk about FS, that often will piss them off. But if you talk about DATY, they usually love that kind of talk and you can really get her going, and then you can go to talking about FS too.
Girls like a guy who is clearly into DATY.
And you can get them going with massaging front side, back side, and all around the hips, abdominal, and lower back. And you can talk about this even in places where you can't do it. And you can talk about getting her juices flowing and give these juices a kind of greater than life significance, and talk about face sitting and not letting any of her juices get wasted.
Sometime it is easier to build this kind of stuff up when it is in no touching environments, and hence just talk, than it is to actually deliver. But it certainly gets the girl primed for everything.
And then when you can do it, the girls really love it.
The main negative about DATY is just the over all choreography. Doesn't seem to matter with highly experienced girls, just with the less experienced. They don't want their juices going back into their mouths.
So you have to wait until the time is right, and then suspend DFKing to DATY her. And then after it goes to BBBJ, and you have to wait a while before resuming DFKing.
SJG
Like Shailynn said, it's difficult to put it out if your mind if you see a particular girl go into VIP with someone else.
So I try to get to the club early, and pick a girl who hasn't done any VIP that day yet...
And this is where The System (tm) can have a weakness. Passing up dry humping, HJ, and BJ ITC are fine. But you don't want to pass up chances of ITC DFKing, FIV, DATY, or FS. This stuff has a psychological effect on a girl. And if you don't like her enough to want to make it go that way, better to just go home.
SJG
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"I haven't done it since Monday and it was fun."
as well as:
". . . I am impervious to all bad things."
In the past couple of years I've come to the conclusion that life is too short to *not* lick the occasional stripper's pussy.
The doctor said, "From what the nurse tells me, I think oral sex would bring your wife out of the coma. Be sure to make it last long enough to bring her back into consciousness."
The doctor closes the curtains around the woman's bed, and leaves the husband and wife alone in the room.
After an hour the doctor returns and calls out to the man, "Do you see any change in your wife?
The husband replies, "Yes. I think she choked to death."
PS: I still do her and when I'm lucky she brings a girlfriend home with her for both of us to enjoy
SJG
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I find performing DATY extremely erotic. But I only do it with my most special strippers.
My fav DATY was when I first tongue fucked the DS in an extraordinarily deep and aggressive attack. She levitated. At least theee orgasms. I'm pretty sure that I posted the story shortly after it happened.
I find it extremely enjoyable and in college I had a reputation amongst some of the coeds who would come to my dorm room for a "massage". Someone mentioned the sweetness, and I can still remember the taste of many of the beautiful girls...literally sweet to the taste.
I'm usually able to provide multiple orgasms without getting tired. My technique varies so that it isn't straight tounge to the clit as traditional porn shows. The nicest compliment I ever received was when my dancer friends said " you eat pussy like a girl"... "Most guys get everything too wet, try to shove their tounge too early/often or try to suck the clit off my body." I'm not into any kind of porn, but if you watch women directed girl on girl it is pretty interesting and instructional.... So yes, if you can't tell, I love it.
Thanks for the topic and the opportunity to go down memory lane.
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How can we forget the early stages of @Smith's midlife crisis, when he would write an erotic novel each time he paid one of his teenage prostitutes for sex?
Once years ago she stood me up & I was pissed and went to my favorite club where I knew the bartender. I told her about being stood up and she pouted at the stage where a slim blonde new dancer was on stage. The bartender told me to take her to VIP and I'd forget being stood up. We did a one hour Champagne Room and we fucked and sucked and she begged me to eat her. She came over and over and then we finished with a BBBJCIM.
That was the only time I enjoyed DATY with an unknown stripper who may very well have been with someone else earlier. My tongue hasn't fallen off yet.
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Since you're so intent on sucking @Smith's cock @bubba, I'll give you a more complete answer. Did you see my post above, maybe 15 down?
In a more reckless time, I did DATY in strip clubs. In one long-past thread, I posted about one time, in particular, when a dancer stuck her crotch in my face, on stage, in a nude club. I went for it one stage, and we finished with BBFS in one of the semi-private rooms. Eventually went OTC with this dancer, and eventually got chlamydia. That was the end of the reckless stage for me. Now it's only with responsible college girl. As I pointed out above, DATY in a strip club is not without risk. You should worry about HPV throat cancer. Look it up if you're not familiar.
@Smith's period of writing erotic novels about his teenage hookers is one of TUSCL's most comical.
The FBSM place I use counts DATY as one of their upgrades. When I find a girl I like, I'll get the full upgrade package one time, which also includes a CBJ. I'll do a spectacular job on the DATY so she'll want me to do it again. When I see her again, she'll ask if I'm getting the upgrade, and I say "no, the CBJ doesn't do it for me", but if you still want me to lick your pussy and make you cum 3 times, then stick it on up here. We end up in 69 position, and many times I'll start getting BBBJ as a thank you for the excellent DATY.
I've only done it ITC with 2 dancers, one each in my two favorite clubs, and only when I do 1 hr in VIP instead of 30 mins.
I always found it odd that girls who insist on condoms are eager to have their pussy licked. If you want me to lick yours, you should be willing to lick mine.
I have been with a woman who is like the old Tootsie Pop commercial "How many licks does it take?" One, two, three, pop!
I like bubba267's comment about the finger sniff test. Sick and tired of funky pussies. Will start a thread about a recent experience.
I've been tested for STDs a dozen times since the last time and always test good so i survived with no ill effects. With the drop in dancer quality since those times i no longer have the desire to lick their slits.
Of all the monikers I've had on TUSCL (@RandomLoser, @RandumMurmur, @RandomAsshole, @DumDum, @RandomTroll), I would say @RandomLogic is one of the more creative. Good job!!!
I can assure you that I don't dislike @Smith; in fact I've done everything possible to help him. I've been on his ignore list for almost 2 years, and that's just so, so, unfair!
He's definitely one of the more entertaining guys on the board: Powerful $600K lawyer who's in the grip of an epic midlife crisis. Some teenage girl sucked his dick the first night, but he fell in love with her, divorced his wife, and turned his hooker into an extremely well-paid sugar baby. He smokes weed just like a rebellious teen (to be fair, I did too at age 14). His feature-length erotic novels about his paid sex sessions with teenage prostitutes were pure TUSCL gold -- 8 orgasms every time!!
Guess it's just a case of jealousy. My prostitutes take my money and count every second until I get off of them...
SJG
It is a good thing to do after a BJ so I can have a little time to recover.