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In reality you win some lose some. I generally agree with not paying in advance if possible. Some clubs more than others it is standard. There's a fine line between spoiling a moment with negotiations VS protecting your money. I usually give it a gut feeling check. If it feels off, I politely decline. That said I've never walked out of a vip over a disagreement. Now the girl that over promised and under performed is a ROB. Yes you can replay the first few minutes of the time and say you.shoild have pushed the performance faster. I've always tried to set the pace and initiative as much as possible to get down to business quickly. Especially in a 15 min slot. By all means, out the ROB here by name. Do it in a discussion on the clubs page, not a general discussion.

5k ? I call BS

"Hold my beer" I'd guess a few of the Inkster/ Dearborn dancers could compete with that. Maybe not 600 unique men. Probably quite a few repeats.and regulars.

Detroit west suburbs are mileage wise. Prices are up. Looks are hit and miss. I think we probably romanticize the past having hotter women. Then again.... I don't remember nearly this many overweight dancers.

" Its all the same girls. Youll just end up paying more." Actually it's a small percentage of SA girls that are also dancers / escort sites / hotel bar workers. You.can identify those in the first few messages on SA. I've found that the vast majority of pros don't mess with the hassle of SA. I speak from not only Vegas but dozens of US cities over the past decade. Vegas IS the best city for a visiting SA monger. Just search this site and you'll see multiple guys reports their experience with SA in Vegas. SA attracts many girls that don't have the looks or attitude to be an escort. Think girl next door cute... not escort sexy.

Make a Seeking.com account. Best $100 youll spend for 1 month access. Start messaging a few days before you arrive. Chat with a few girls. Youll get ghosted a few.times. and get canceled on near last minute at least once. Most girls want some small talk to feel out how normal or risky yu are. A few are all business. Search this forum for SA seeking or seeking arrangements for tips and details. Meet at your hotel bar. Or.if you're generous or hungry have dinner. Then have fun.

Look into Seeking Arrangements.

No ROBs I can remember. Occasional GPS. I have never had a Detroit area known extras club girl not fulfil the agreed upon services. Clarify upfront what you want. Agree to a price before going to the room. Even quite a few will ask for upfront payment. Do not assume that every girl at an extra club is an extra girl. Seems to be an increase in the younger fitter girls doing dances only. I've also never had a problem with valet. But I uber most of the time anyway.

I wrote a whole article on the topic recently. See details there.

I have never paid the valet when Uber or lyfttakes me to any of these clubs. Lately BT FC and LS have been up and down. I will agree FC has the most consistency. It's a good thing it's a short uber from BT or LS to FC. FC actually does have a VIP area on the main level. It's somewhat obscured behind the door girl's desk,by the edge of the bar. I think they save it for those of us that are mobility challenged. I don't get up and down stairs nearly as fast as I used to so it was a nice option.

I've been to all from your original list except Germany. From your list, we are really ranking extras friendly clubs. A non extras list would look much different. Staying with extras clubs.... I'd include the rhino in COI. Gold club Tampa is up there. Diamond dolls pompano is also worthy. If FC and LS weren't so close by, BTs in Dearborn would be thought of as a top club. It just plays 3rd to two of the all-time greats.

FC room is $25 LS has the big back room for $40. You gotta ask the guy at the bottom of the stairs if the big room is open. Small room is $20.

Clubs with hot fit young women and low mileage dances are a dime a dozen. A couple clubs come to mind off hand. Cheetah in Atlanta. Always full of hot women. They used to have a no tattoo policy, but I'm guessing they've lifted that. Bourbon Street in Phoenix is another. Penthouse in New Orleans. Just pick the city you are traveling to and read some reviews. You'll see a lot of the traffic here discussing clubs that are extras focused.

Guys on here will tell you to shoot for 300 in vip. IME if you have limited time and prefer the early 20s 9s over 7s .... you'll find all the fun you.want for 500.

Ronjax gave you the big picture for Detroit suburbs. I wrote an article a few months ago. If you have limited time you must visit Flight Club. Bring cash. Second stop would be Landing Strip. 3rd option is BTs... but it's hit and miss enough I'd call it a distant 3rd. Good news is that if you catch a dud of a night at FC either of the others is only a 15 minute uber ride. If a girl gets called up.to stage while in the vip with you.... she'll have to pay to be skipped on stage. Pro tip.... tip a girl you like on stage well. Assuming it's not busy, she'll usually stop right over at your table. Most girls here don't work up enough sweat on stage to need to freshen up after a stage sets. They save the sweating for the workouts you give them in VIP.

Southwest Detroit suburbs.... I'd call it the Inkster Hexagon. That is your starting point. The pompano triangle is definitely worth a visit. Probably cheaper ITC costs. Higher cost of everything else in the city. If you don't like Cuban girls.... skip this one. City of industry LA area. Haven't been in years. No booze. Used to be a contender.

Inflation. Everything is more costly @shadowcat you've been at this long enough to know...... we are not special to a sex.worker. we are an ATM. The best girls make you think you are special.

I've found a couple girls at cheetah that were not down for extras. I was surprised.

Get there just BEFORE noon. They run a start of shift dancer review at noon sharp. It's my understanding that they are fined if they're not there for the review.

I am skeptical of new profiles..... but you might find a diamond in the rough. I've also started searching average and curvy body style. It's amazing what some girls will call themselves. Especially girls early 20s will say they are curvy when they really are pretty hot.

Agree with most of the above. Regarding uber..... I've had several girls ask for uber. You can use your uber to request the ride for her. If she declines this and just wants money for gas or uber.... run. I do a reverse image search on every potential sb. Found a few scams. Also reverse search their phone # Most girls use an app like Google voice too, but occasionally they give a real number.

Don't they still have a limo that will bring you from the border to the club?

Rick... no lesions need to be visible. Especially HSV.

I've never been to Penthouse. Probably won't unless there's a regression to old practices

Data is not readily available. Case reports are most concerning for syphilis... which is increasingly common in the US for the past few years. HSV2 is transmitted Otherwise it's low for other std Recommend- get a prescription for doxycycline if you can take it. It's been approved for MSM post exposure prophylactic. Common sense says it should work regardless of where the exposure came from. My personal theory is that Valtrex could be taken prophylactic as well..... just no official recommendation yet from experts