Comments by DeclineToState (page 22)

I’ve been offered BJ here, and if that’s on the menu I assume FS is too

I wear a nice watch because I like it, not for show. Have never considered taking it off when clubbing. No dancer has ever commented on it, so no idea if any has noticed or has in part targeted me because of it.

DeclineToState, ha.

-->"Remember how Obama was trailing all throughout 2008, not even winning a primary?" Not quit accurate. The Democratic caucus / primary cycle and Clinton vs. Obama went down like this, all in January 2008: Obama won Iowa caucus (admittedly not a primary). Then Clinton squeaked out win in New Hampshire 39% to 37%. Next was Michigan primary that Clinton won without Obama on ballot for some reason. Then Nevada caucus (again, not a primary) that Clinton won 51% to 45% over Obama. Then Obama smoked Clinton in South Carolina 55% to 27%, followed by Clinton smoking Obama in Florida 50% to 33%. So it was pretty much game on from the beginning though she did overall better than him in the subsequent Feb 08 Super Tuesday voting.

^That is correct. My payment for VIP curtained cubicle was made at counter after was done with VIP, and I assume it's also pay afterward for VIP closed door room. Since I didn't get lap dances, not sure whether lap dance payment occurs before or after the dances.

Wish I'd known about that Verti Marte place when I was there!

Have done it for 2 different CFs, each time personalized not cash or gift cards. For one of them it was a once-only mistake, the other not. For the CF it was not a mistake, we know each other OTC and the gifting is reciprocal but with future CFs I won't repeat. Yes dancers love cash (who doesn't?) but I'd never do cash, rather spend it on them in club (or for OTC if you're an OTC guy). If you're determined to do it, consider personalized or gift cards not cash

And: -Rent a bike and ride around, you can see a lot of Nola on a bike -Walk around in the Garden District, lots of cool old houses

No strip club recommendations, but restaurants yes based on my visit a few years ago. -Shaya: Mediterranean / Israeli food. Best meal I had in Nola. Make a res. If you're familiar with Zahav restaurant in Philadelphia it's like that. -Herbsaint: In 2017, chef Rebecca Wilcomb won James Beard award for best chef in southern USA. It was excellent. In 2019 she became chef at Italian place named Gianna so consider that place too. If she's still chef at Herbsaint then check it out; if she's no longer Herbsaint chef I don't know what to say. -La Petite Grocery: Not as good as Herbsaint, but still good. -Upperline: This is a Nola classic. 3 course meal of Nola dishes for $40 to $48 depending on what you select. Old lady owner greets and seats you, she's awesome. Commander's Palace is also a Nola classic restaurant and fancier than Upperline but I think Upperline's better. -For other restaurant recommendations, go to Eater New Orleans website: https://nola.eater.com/ For bars, not a lot of recommendations, but check these out: -Sazerac Bar at Roosevelt hotel, classic place -Coop's Place in Frech Quarter area, dive bar with good fried chicken and verbal abuse from bartender - it's part of the experience

-->@Subraman: "I haven't seen streetwalkers in the area, but I can be a bit oblivious to that I suppose, plus I tend to stay in the better areas of north beach and am usually there during the day." Not a lot of street girls at night in the North Beach area. Post-2AM after some of the SCs close, the places you're most likely to find them (based on my post-clubbing walking in SF during 2018 and 2019), in order of frequency are : (1) the half block between topless Gold Club and W Hotel, (2) walking from North Beach toward Market Street corridor, and (3) and hovering near entrances of some but not all Market Street corridor hotels (around Parc 55, Park Central, Intercontinental, Marriott, and Four Seasons, but generally not around Palace or Zelos). Not a lot of them, but they're there. Street girls are 80%+ AA. Some are super hot (over course of last year I was approached by three who were 9+, which stunned me), others are gacked out scabs with nearby pimp in car. And if PLs are walking the streets after clubs close, there's a high incidence of girls approaching in own car offering CHJ/CBJ/CFS. Pretty much every night I've stayed til closing past year, I've gotten approached by girl in car. 50% white, 50% AA. Most likely places to find them are, in order: (1) half block between Gold Club and W Hotel, and (2) in North Beach if you're off main drag (Broadway) and onto a side street, especially side streets that lead downhill to Columbus Ave.

Apparently there's Twitter-like max number of characters a review approver or rejector (an adjudicator, as founder has decided to call them) can type into comments. Full text of my review approver comments was meant to be: And for those who haven't been yet: OP correctly states (at least, based on the one time I hit HK on a Saturday night) there is not a lot of nudity by the girls dancing downstairs. My experience was: The girls on the 2 downstairs stages (one long narrow stage in middle of floor and a shorter narrow stage closer to front door) get topless while dancing but not FN. There were 5 to 6 girls dancing with tops on standing on counter of bar at front left, and there were also 4 to 5 girls dancing with tops on at front of small stage near front door. The girls in the shaving cream show are FN.

Well done TC. I read entire thing in the unpublished queue and then pressed green but it’d already been published.

Ya, I should've pressed the red button instead of green. I pressed green because it ticked founder's boxes of club layout, cover, dance prices, and something about the girls. I shoulda seen it for the CLUB AD it is. Shame on me. Funny in retrospect that it cites some slightly negative things in an effort to cover the ad nature.

-->"He would go from stage to stage tipping a dollar or two and trying to get like his face in girls titties or cooch." ^Sounds like TJ, not Vegas, is the place for him. I wouldn't have intervened or alerted security, but would have moved seats if I'd been at rail next to him. OP's review of this club visit got approved today and states the dude got tossed by security after 45-60 min: https://tuscl.net/review.php?id=366628

Mine is bullshit. 3 way sounds great but the shadow puppets for my zodiac sign show 2 dudes instead of 2 chicks. So Fuck 2020 and its horoscopes. Happy New Year to all you non-Virgos, lucky bastards.

-->@spicey/blahblah: "$40 & 3/$100 is the standard in Portland and Denver." 2 years since I've been to Portland, but when I was (at Club Rouge), it was $3/100 FN in curtained VIP cubicles. That was a good value I thought as compared to most Cali clubs back then. Not sure how much the floor dances were, I never get them. VIP is for me.

For fiction, Purity by J. Franzen. For nonfiction, The Last Days of the Incas.

Interesting thread, Waffle. The fee/fine craziest to me is the $50 to $100 stage skip fee that applies even if the dancer is in VIP with a custy. All clubs I've been to, the floor guys know who's in VIP or not and if the DJ calls that dancer's name for upcoming stage show, the floor guys correct the DJ and the DJ then calls another dancer's name to get ready for stage.

-->@501: "It's about to get worse as all clubs will have to change to the employee model after the first of the year based on the new CA law or face fines and possibly be shut down." -->@TFP: "this is what I was wondering about...So you're saying that come January 1st they will be forced to switch to the employee model for certain?" Yes. The law change is effective 1/1/2020. It's Calif. Assembly Bill 5, which adds a new statute (Section 2750.3) to the Calif. Labor Code. The Calif Supreme Court case that caused the big clubs to make dancers employees instead of independent contractors was issued in April 2018 and by end of 2018 the big clubs (Deja Vu clubs, mostly) had all made the switch. The new statute is more strict re classification of ICs versus employees than the court case was. All Calif clubs will have to switch dancers to employees or risk labor law violations and class action lawsuits. As Subraman points out, this has been bad for the dancers and the customers. It sucks ass. The clubs don't like it either but they're complying to avoid risk of class action lawsuits. Some gig economy companies (Uber, DoorDash, etc.) are pledging 10s of millions to get an initiative on the ballot for Nov 2020 to get this new statute overturned. Hopefully clubs and dancers will be covered in that ballot initiative.

—>@OP: "I had the whole place cleaned up and everything so it was good to go." And all by 8:15AM no doubt.

Brimhall. Nice rack as compared to the comically bad fakies in the Cruz pics which look similar to some bad fakies I saw in a club last weekend

Tough call. All things equal I’d usually pick the brunette (Electra) but the blonde’s pics are pretty good. So, D’Errico

Rain. Though not spectacular she checks the brunette and slender boxes that are my preferences

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