What are some signs a stripper is willing to push the boundaries of the club?
dagincourt88
Illinois
What are some signs to look out for, to find out if a stripper is willing to push the boundaries of no-touch rules of the club or her self? Is there any way you can tell if you might get extras before verbally asking?
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There isn't anything subtle about it...
dagin, in the places I've SCed, there's no reason to try to divine her intentions. As above, either the "signs" are obvious, or I just ask, or I have enough fun with her at the table that she's worth a dance to find out. I don't think "looking for signs" is the right mindset or approach
Just ask, and you can always do so discretely if it makes you more comfortable (ex: "what's on your menu"). If you look for signs forever rather than being upfront with what you are looking, you're gonna keep wasting money on dances from girls who aren't providing what you want, or getting had by dancers who see you're a beta and milk your wallet without putting out.
If you can't pick up a clue on extras then you are not gonna find them.
As Juice said you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him fuck it. Don't listen to Juice years of eating paint chips and living under power lines really messed him up.
But if you fail to prepare then prepare to fail - e.g.:
1) know what you want and discuss that upfront; not once you have paid up for a room/VIP or paid-up anything period
2) know the going rate so you won't get ripped-off
3) as much as you can avoid-it, try to never pay upfront - once she has your $$$ she can choose not to do shit and you ain't getting your $$$ back - not saying every girl that wants upfront payment won't follow-thru; but it def happens (there's no honor among those in the sex biz) - some girls themselves also get ripped-off by custies not paying afterwards so some are insistent on upfront payment but I hold my ground; best I do is show her I have the $$$ and then put it so where she can't get to it once your pants are around your ankles
Of course all of this is pretty-much mute depending on 3-things; location, location, location - many areas/cities have very strict local-ordinances thus most clubs in those areas have a tight-lid on extracurricular activities - but if not in one of those area/cities, often times clubs look the other way in a "what happens in VIP stays in VIP" way
The times I've been offered extras, it was pretty straightforward and I wasn't even looking for it. A dancer at Olympic Garden (LV) gave me her business card, for Escorting, and told me to call her.
Then there was the Olympic Garden (LV) dancer who steered the conversation towards her evolution as a dancer, explaining that at first she had told herself, "I would never do that, or that. But soon," she said, looking straight into my eyes, "you're just another whore."
Another time I was exiting VIP with a dancer at Cheetahs (LV), she told me she was going to be getting off work soon, and asked what hotel I was staying in. Since she never mentioned money though, that may not have been an offer of prostitution.
Then there was the Cheetahs (LV) dancer who, after learning I had taken a taxi to the club, offered to give me a ride home. At the very first intersection she unbuttoned her blouse and put my hand on her thigh. lol
What you described IME is more often what the teasers do, vs the extras girls
Over time, I learned that strippers usually touch me in a special way indicating that she might be willing to push the boundaries. I usually get this when I tip her at the stage. A dancer with strict boundaries on the other hand, does the bare minimum in a somewhat regimental fashion. No matter how hot she is, such a regimental and obligatory touch doesn't feel sexy at all.
I just wanted to find out if others' experience was the same. I shouldn't have to waste money on lapdances just to find out if a dancer is open for extras. Asking directly offends people outright.
As for getting offended, that is also completely relative. One girl will get offended if you touch her breasts. Another will place your hands on her breasts. Same thing applies to vaginas. Same thing applies to extras. Do you think the girl who gave me her business card would have been offended if I had asked her about extras?
Well, as you found out, our experience isn't the same :) Some girls give you very obvious signs, and things are clear enough then. Well, except not always -- there are zillions of girls whose hustle is giving you those "signs", so that you spend money on them, and then not delivering the extras, under the (true) claim that they never promised you anything. There's a stripper at a non-extras club who I see OTC, and she was telling me how she works that angle hard, she won't outright lie, but touches in sensitive places and insinuates -- and then the guy takes her in the back and gets a regular ol' dance, all that's ever possible in this club anyway, and she walks away with the money of yet another sucker who "read the signs".
The two things in your post that I'd key in on:
-->"I shouldn't have to waste money on lapdances just to find out if a dancer is open for extras."
True, if that's not your thing. On the other hand, if you're so goal-oriented that you just want to meet and know for sure immediately, have you looked at escorts? Most guys I know who resent paying $20 end up with escorts, eventually.
-->"Asking directly offends people outright."
I'm not trying to be snarky or insulting here... I've been doing this for over 2 decades, I've never had a dancer act super offended; a few were obviously mildly irritated since they knew once they said "no" I wouldn't be spending money on them. The reason so many of us are saying "just ask" isn't because we're trying to be glib and douchey -- it's because all of us (except you) don't ever experience strippers getting super offended, and in fact, it's the best way to just get a straight answer, without having to read the signs or get suckered in by the many many girls for whom those "signs" are nothing but empty hustle. Seriously, if strippers are getting offended by you asking, the best bang for your buck is to practice your demeanor and wording so that you stop offending the strippers ... these girls are not easy to offend, so this is probably low-hanging fruit that will pay huge dividends for you.
If extras are offered at the clubs you visit then dancers getting asked for them is part of the fabric of such a club.
Strip clubs are not the real world, they are bizarro-world, the same rules don't apply (where else in society do women get naked for strange men that let them grope them) - you are using civvie thinking to deal with a different animal - if you use civvy real-world logic with strippers in strip-clubs you are pretty-much sabotaging your experience at the club. The interactiom b/w custies and dancers is often a game and one needs to know and accept the game lest one is constantly played and left broke and blue-balled.
Customers go to strip clubs and often spend good $$$ and it should be to get what they want, no sense in spending big-bucks and not getting shit b/c one is afraid to "offend someon", might as well not go - dancers are not afraid to go for what they want which is to get as much of your $$$ as they can while doing the least, and many custies just sit gthere like lumps and don't assert themselves and what they want for the $$$ they are spending - strip clubs are about business and getting your $$$, not courtship .- many of thes girls use chumps to get their $$$ and then they go fuck their BFs and trat their BFs to dinner with the $$$ they manipulate from chumps, or many use it for their drugs while all you vot was not "offending someone".
This is not meant to beat you down, just some harsh trues about the often seedie world of sex and strip clubs - the dancers are there to please you and that is why one pays them, does not make sense to pay them for them to do what they like - find the dancers that will give what you want or don't spend on them if fhey have no interest in what you want.
If this is not happening in the front room, but she is talking about what she will do in the back room, shine her on. Do not buy dances, as that is a chump's game.
SJG