Comments by whodey (page 23)

@founder you deserve a Merry Christmas and a great 2023 for all that you have given us on this site. As for everyone else, I guess a quote from Home Alone 2 sums it up the best "Merry Christmas ya filthy animals!"

My endgame is to have more fun than I would be having with whatever else I was thinking about doing that day. Some places, like when I am in Columbus, I know nothing more than a good lapdance is going to happen in the club and that OTC is a lot rarer than it used to be. That's why sometimes I'll opt to go to a Blue Jackets game instead of hitting the club and other nights a good lapdance sounds like more fun than watching a game. Places like Nashville you know you aren't even going to get a good lapdance so I know to just skip the clubs and hit up Broadway for some good food, good music and a lot of drunk bachelorette parties. Other places, like when I am in Louisville, I know that FS is available if I find the right girl so I generally choose to go to the clubs while I am in town. Then there are places, like when I am in Lexington, where extras are kind of hit or miss and you don't know what you'll get but I usually hit the clubs because ther really isn't anything better to do in that town. You just have to look at what's available in the area you are in and decide if strip clubs are the best option to have fun at the time.

I've only done it once. That was with a girl that I was seeing OTC on a regular for about 6 months at the time. She had posted on one of her social media sites about a specific toy she was having trouble finding for her kid for Christmas and asking people to let her know if they saw it in stock anywhere so she could rush to buy it. I happened to see it when I was out shopping so I bought it and stopped by her club just to drop it off to her. She was incredibly thankful and showed her appreciation during our next OTC visit. Normally I don't get gifts for dancers because it is fairly rare that I keep a favorite for more than a month or so since I don't club near my home because the clubs suck here. It is hard to develop a close enough connection with a girl who I may only see three or four times over a couple of weeks and then not see her again until I am back in town a few months later. I do tend to find myself tipping more around the holidays in general whether it be at a strip club, bar, restaurant or just an Uber driver.

Muddy you are really missing out of so.e real fun by skipping the clubs in the Shively (near Churchill) area of Louisville. Thorobred and Foxy Lady are two of my favorite clubs anywhere. While the area isn't great it certainly isn't bad enough to avoid out of fear. TheeOSU, was that Rachel's or Diamond Jim's you were talking about? That experience could have easily have happened at either of them. About the only place I have ever felt truly scared was at a club in East St Louis about 6 years ago called Pink Slip or something like that. While I felt a little out of place as the only white guy there I have been in several clubs like that and never felt like it was an issue. That night I was having trouble getting approached by any of the girls I was interested in so when I saw an absolutely stunning girl on stage I walked up and tipped her a couple of twentys and asked her to come see me when she got off stage. As I was walking back to my seat I was approached by a guy that looked like he could play linebacker in the NFL and a group of his friends. He told me that the dancer I had tipped was his girl for the night and that if she blew him off to come sit with me they would be waiting outside for me when I leave. While I really wanted to have some fun with her I decided that the odds were not in my favor in that situation so I left instead of risking showing up in one of shadowcats 2 AMer reports. It was enough that I've skipped the East St Louis clubs anytime I am in the area since then.

"The main reason I want to use a card is that the club ATM and all the ATMs I know of between it and my house me have $200 limits." Check with you bank to see if they are the ones putting that $200 limit on your withdrawals because that is unusually low. The only places I have seen that low of a limit on an ATM is at a strip club, casino or dive bar where they charge a ridiculously high fee per withdrawal. Any actual bank controlled ATM, even if is not your bank, should let you take out at least $500 at a time. As for using card at the club, I generally don't do it. I'm not concerned about a paper trail at all since I am single and while I wouldn't want certain people to find out about clubbing habit it wouldn't be a major issue if it happened. I'm also not overly concerned about ID theft or most types of fraud since it isn't really that much more of a risk to use it at a club compared to some other places that I use a debit or credit card. I have two reasons, both of which have been discussed, for not using a card at the club. The first is that I have personally known people that have been charged more than expected. Sometimes it is because of a fee that posted but not really talked about when running the card like one of the now closed Covington KY clubs that had a small sign at the register that said all credit Transactions are subject to a 20% fee. Other times it has been a waitress or dancer inflating the tip without the customer noticing. I knew a guy that tipped a girl $200 in cash for extras when using a card for vip and when he went to sign the credit card slip it had $200cash on the tip line and he thought that was just to account for the cash tip he gave her but it ended up being added to his card as a $200 cash back tip. The other is my own lack of self control at times in the club. While I make enough to be able to afford to have fun at the club when I want to. I am by no means wealthy. I don't get drunk at the clubs and usually only have one or maybe two drinks since I am driving so I am not concerned that I will over spend because of alcohol, I don't have the same self control when I find the right woman. I have often found myself so intoxicated by a beautiful dancer and blown through every bit of cash I had with me. On a few of those occasions I have wanted to go back to my home or hotel to get my card and either hit an ATM again or use it at the club. Luckily I sober up from my state of being drunk on pussy to not go back once I have left to go get my card. If I started taking my cards to the vlub I would have a much smaller bank account.

goldmongerATL that setup is basically the same as what Palace in the Pines in NE Ohio uses to get around the laws against alcohol being served in a full nude club. It operates as two separate clubs the same building, but ultimately it results in two subpar clubs. The main club (Palace in the Pines) has alcohol but no nudity and the mileage sucks. The nude club (Royalty Room) is what I call the "jack shack in the back" and while extras are available it isn't a great club experience. Hopefully if that is what the new follies turns out to be I hope they do a better job of it than the Palace in the Pines owners did. They need to make sure the atmosphere in both halves of the club is good.

1.) Many sugarbabies will return to clubbing as thier whales can't afford routine meetups I hope so, but I don't know how long they will last. Many of these girls aren't cut out for continued employment even with strip clubs being less regimented than traditional jobs. I expect that while some will dance short term they will only stick around long enough to have time to build enough of an online following on OnlyFans, Instagram or whatever other site to make it profitable enough. If you find a new girl you like make sure to get a way to stay in touch with her after she leaves to be able to continue an otc relationship. 2.) Mileage will increase in the LD room if you are loyal How is that any different than now? Most girls will already give better mileage to those that consistently give them money. 3.) Dancers will be very territorial as regulars make cut back on visits. Again that isn't so much a prediction as it is a reality in most strip clubs, especially the smaller less crowded types I tend to visit. 4.) COVID sticky fees (e.g. door charges) may dissapear Completely disagree with this. Most of these fees were put in place by clubs to try to squeeze every last dollar out of a decreasing number of customers during covid. As the economy goes downhill and fewer people go to clubs or at least spend less than before the clubs will be more desperate for money. I see these fees increasing instead of going away unfortunately. 5.) OTC will be more accessible, if you know how to ask for it Hopefully this is true. OTC is just starting to get back up to precovid levels of availability in my experiences. I just hope the prices can somehow get back to at least close to precovid levels, but I highly doubt it will. A few of my own predictions. Many struggling clubs will close and the trend of club consolidation will continue. Many long time customers will take the deteriorating economy as a reason to stop clubbing or to at least cut back or take a break for a while. Police departments will be too overwhelmed with increases in other forms of crime to worry as much about extras in clubs. A combination of less police activity, fewer customers spending less money, clubs desperate for money not wanting to micromanage vip rooms and girls needing money will lead to more extras in the club. Clubs will become less and less crowded each month which will benefit clubs/customers/dancers who prefer the slower more intimate type of clubs and be detrimental to the party type of clubs/customers/dancers. Mid-teir lapdance factories will struggle the most since they rely mostly on a large number of men with just enough disposable income to buy a few dances every so often.

I'm not much of a soccer fan and don't really care about either of today's teams, but it was nice to see Messi get his World Cup championship. He is clearly the greatest soccer player of my generation and possibly the greatest of all-time. Not being much of a soccer fan the only other player I know of on his level was Pelè who was before I was born. I watched the game today just because I appreciate seeing any player that is at the top of their game especially when they are nearing the end of their careers and in the biggest games. It's the same reason I watched Jordan and Kobe both play games at the end of their careers even though I am not an NBA fan.

Just heard Hot Blooded by Foreigner come on the radio and decided it had to be included here.

Top three for me are undoubtedly Led Zepplin The Rolling Stones The Who The rest of the top 10 would include The Doors Guns N Roses Aerosmith Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band U2 Pink Floyd The Clash I really want to include Nirvana because they absolutely changed rock in a great way, but they simply weren't as prolific as the others due to their short career before Cobain died.

A lot of the greats have already been mentioned but here are a few more. Welcome to the Jungle by Guns and Roses Straight Outta Compton by NWA We Will Rock You and We are the Champions by Queen Old Time Rock and Roll by Bob Seger Don't Stop Believin' by Journey What was I thinkin' by Dierks Bentley 9 to 5 by Dolly Parton Final Countdown by Europe

Thanks Atacdawg, I couldn't remember the name of the town, I just knew it was on my way when I would visit my cousins in Point Pleasant after business in Huntington.

I would say don't go during her funeral, that would be inappropriate. Other than that go whenever you feel the desire to do so as long as it is within your budget. That is the same advice I would give to anyone who asks when they should visit a strip club.

With the talk about bowling and golf simulators and no mention of strippers it sounds like they are going to put the famous Follies name on a sports bar instead of a strip club.

The Olde Jaol Steakhouse and Tavern in Wooster, Ohio I'd a great steakhouse built in a Civil War era jail and sheriff's office. The dining room is setup in the old jail cells and there is a great prohibition style bar upstairs I'm the old sheriff's office. In addition to great steaks I highly recommend the walnut crusted walleye. The Lobby Bar and Grille at the Brown Hotel in Louisville Kentucky is located within a century old hotel and absolutely embodies the meaning of old school southern hospitality. Their Hot Brown with some Smokey Mac n Cheese and a nice flight of bourbon is my ideal comfort food. I don't remember the name of the small town on Rt 2 between Point Pleasant and Huntington West Virginia where you'll find Hillbilly Hot Dogs but it is well worth the drive if you're in the area. It is exactly what you would expect of a place named Hillbilly Hot Dogs and it plays up every stereotype about West Virginia.

A sad day for college football. He was always good for some verbal gems anytime he was speaking to reporters. Coach, keep swinging your sword in heaven.

Odd that you GPS took you in by Deja Vu on New Circle, mine always brings me in through the strip mall on Russell Cave since that is the address and from that end there is a big sign pointing you around the building to Cowboys.

You think it is bad when you have the same town split by a state border, there are also ones that are split by the border between countries. Niagara Falls NY USA/Niagara Falls Ontario Canada and Tecate California/Tecate Mexico come to mind from the places I've been to. I'm sure there are other places around the world that a city was established long before a national or state boundary divided it similar to the way Berlin was after WWII. If Kansas City being in Kansas and Missouri confuses you I don't know how you would come to terms with the fact that both the New York Jets and New York Giants are in New Jersey and not New York.

In my opinion the loss of this club on its own isn't a bad thing as it really wasn't a good club based on my limited visits there. But like TheeOSU said it is a part of larger trend for the area that is more troubling.

I imagine SoCal was never a cheap place for the hobby compared to the rest of the country since everything is more expensive in California. Talent can be harder to find lately but if you go to clubs it is still there, at least that has been my experience lately in the midwest. Sure the clubs are as full of nothing but top tier quality but I can usually some good options in each of the cities I go to. Sometimes it can take visiting a couple of clubs to find what you are looking for, but the hunt can be part of the fun. Inflated prices are just part of the new normal at the moment just like with everything else. The girls realize that prices and wages for normal jobs have both increased and that has led them to raise their prices. This will be the case at least until the market hits a major recession even worse than we currently have to drive all types of prices down. On the bright side since you are in LA you are only a couple of hours from Tijuana where prices will be more what you used to see. I know it is not exactly convenient but it is at least doable on a weekend or day off. As for "too old to club alone" I don't even know what that means. I regularly see guys well into retirement at the clubs and we have several very active members of this board that are into their 70s or 80s and still clubbing strong. Unless you are at the point of needing constant nursing care you can still club alone, especially since you are clearly still driving. If you can drive to the club alone you can club alone.

The King is dead, long live the Queen, or at least extras from dancers that are as past their prime as Queen Elizabeth was.

A true strip club championship city can't be crowned from a list that doesn't include the strip club Mecca of Cincinnati Ohio. Or maybe I shouldn't have been doing tequila shots tonight. In reality there are a couple of cities (St Louis, Lexington) that I would have included in the 16 but neither of them would have made it past the first round so no real overall impact on the outcome.

"As a customer, I like knowing who's who and I'll get dances from both depending on what I'm looking for." Have a conversation with the girl to find out if she does extras or not. If it is a club where management and local law enforcement don't care the girl will gladly discuss what she is willing to do and for what price before you go for dances.

I don't agree with naming dancers who do extras. It isn't because it may get them in trouble with either their boss or the law, which it could depending on the area. The bigger issue I have is that it can get the girl into a dangerous situation with a customer. If Customer A, Customer B and Customer C all write reviews saying that Dancer Z fucked them for $100. Customer X reads these reviews and goes to the club expecting to fuck Dancer Z for $100. He takes her back to VIP without discussing expectations or price and when he asks to fuck her for $100 like the reviews said she either completely turns him down or quotes him $250 to fuck. She may do this because Customer X has bad hygiene, a bad attitude or she just isn't attracted to him for whatever reason so she either isn't willing to have sex or wants to charge more to make it worth it to her. It may also have absolutely nothing to do with Customer X and she gave Customers A B and C a lower price because she was desperate for money at the time and now she isn't because business has been good, she may have given them a lower price because they are regulars who frequently drop hundreds of dollars with her or she may simply not be in the mood for sex at the time. Customer X may take this as an insult and depending on his temper and his level of intoxication this could cause him to become violent and either assault her, rape her or go out to his car and get a gun and come back in shooting. If a hot girl does you the favor of letting her fuck you why would you want to do anything to put her at risk as a result.

The only time I have personally run into a pimp was at one of the old clubs in Covington KY back in the late 90's when I first started going to strip clubs. I had gotten a few dances from a girl and as I got back to my seat afterwards a middle age man in a suit came over and sat at the next table and leaned in to talk to me. "I see you really like Bambi (or whatever name she was using)." Thinking he was just a customer I replied that she was a lot of fun and then he told me that "she works for me and for $200 you can have some real fun at our apartment down the street." I immediately got up and left because at that point I was new to strip clubs since I wasn't even actually 18 yet but even then I knew I didn't want to get involved with anyone working for a pimp. It was a real shame because if she had made me the same offer without me knowing about the guy I would have jump at the chance. I saw him around that club and a couple of the other seedy clubs in Covington over the next few years before the city ran out all of the clubs from the town but he never approached me again.