Just came by to gripe
JeffTUSCL
California
Here to gripe instead of elsewhere because other sites now won't take prepaid cards anymore and I'm not bucking up $50 of Bitcoin just to gripe and get this off my chest.
The scene for P4P has been changing the past few years, COVID made it worse, and inflation now made it crazy.
On the plus side, I'm making a lot more $$ than I was a few years ago. On the downside I have a lot more bills so zero sum. When COVID hit I stayed low key, but it wasn't because I was trying to be paranoid safe, it was because it was a near ghost town to find any P4P and I stopped doing outcall to my place since the experiences were a crap shoot. I held on to a couple of fantastic favorites for that but for unexplainable reason it became a ghost town with no replies. Did she get COVID? Pregnant? Find a boyfriend in Florida? Who knows. The well ran dry for me the past year and the parlors are just a sea of old ladies who want to jack hammer their way to a tip. This is all imaginary, by the way, my whole post is a fantasy and there's no such thing as a happy ending.
On with my gripe of imaginary things...
I keep looking for the good old days.
What's gone:
$40 massage places with cute younger women and $40 or $60 max for a happy ending with lots of fun teasing and mutual touch. Those are gone. Now it's $60 most places for someone's elderly maid to give a mediocre massage, try to jack hammer you out, and expects bare minimum $60 for it. Reviews most places, if any new ones show up, are now 90% fake and can't be reliable, do it's hit or miss. 3 years ago it was still sometimes hit but now it's like 1% hit and then no longer on the roster.
Upscale options of the $100 entrance fee variety massage places where you can potentially get a cute non-fat Latina, Asian or (very rare) white babe are almost all gone. They've all seemed to migrate to central or south OC and turn into IG-promoting nuru places that never have any real pictures and move around and it's not worth a crap shoot. Only a couple places in Central LA I go to sometimes just do not have the talent anymore. Went to one tonight and the new girl did not pull the trigger, first time in ages that happened, like she didn't know yet where she's working.
With my blue balls I decided on my way home that my only late option now is to swing by a strip club. But they all mostly suck in LA as most of you in LA know. I didn't feel like driving to COI and even if I did, I don't recognize any names on the roster. No idea what the talent looks like anymore. Closest on my way home is Bare Elegance which at least has or used to have hotties all the time walking around nude, a little expensive for the options, VIP is ridiculous, but at this point I'm not thinking straight so I needed a reminder of dance and VIP prices but couldn't find anything useful on my phone while driving. Decided to just go home and hop in here for a reminder. Holy shit the prices are insane and from the descriptions the quality is gone and no more nude walking around inside.
Seems like any option where I get what I'm looking for is going to run me $400 & more easily and with a lot of risk of getting no satisfaction. Used to be easy to find what I wanted for $200 or less and any day of the week, almost any time, almost anywhere.
Part of it is economy and COVID but now the best ladies just fire up a fan site and make money behind a camera. Probably also more crackdowns past 5 years. World should have been getting better but it's become a vast dry desert. Very depressing for me. The scene was my best outlet to relax from stress and clear my busy mind.
I've even tried the various sugar sites on & off and the very early days of them when they proliferated about 8 years ago there were some gems to find with some effort. Now they're full of snobs looking for gold, or unreliable, and takes way too much effort to gain traction.
Swipe apps are garbage.
The most used ho sites are just too full of LE keeping an eye that I can't risk presence there.
Can a guy get a break somewhere? I'm too old now to go clubbing solo, and I'm not looking to pick up washed-up cougars from bars.
The scene for P4P has been changing the past few years, COVID made it worse, and inflation now made it crazy.
On the plus side, I'm making a lot more $$ than I was a few years ago. On the downside I have a lot more bills so zero sum. When COVID hit I stayed low key, but it wasn't because I was trying to be paranoid safe, it was because it was a near ghost town to find any P4P and I stopped doing outcall to my place since the experiences were a crap shoot. I held on to a couple of fantastic favorites for that but for unexplainable reason it became a ghost town with no replies. Did she get COVID? Pregnant? Find a boyfriend in Florida? Who knows. The well ran dry for me the past year and the parlors are just a sea of old ladies who want to jack hammer their way to a tip. This is all imaginary, by the way, my whole post is a fantasy and there's no such thing as a happy ending.
On with my gripe of imaginary things...
I keep looking for the good old days.
What's gone:
$40 massage places with cute younger women and $40 or $60 max for a happy ending with lots of fun teasing and mutual touch. Those are gone. Now it's $60 most places for someone's elderly maid to give a mediocre massage, try to jack hammer you out, and expects bare minimum $60 for it. Reviews most places, if any new ones show up, are now 90% fake and can't be reliable, do it's hit or miss. 3 years ago it was still sometimes hit but now it's like 1% hit and then no longer on the roster.
Upscale options of the $100 entrance fee variety massage places where you can potentially get a cute non-fat Latina, Asian or (very rare) white babe are almost all gone. They've all seemed to migrate to central or south OC and turn into IG-promoting nuru places that never have any real pictures and move around and it's not worth a crap shoot. Only a couple places in Central LA I go to sometimes just do not have the talent anymore. Went to one tonight and the new girl did not pull the trigger, first time in ages that happened, like she didn't know yet where she's working.
With my blue balls I decided on my way home that my only late option now is to swing by a strip club. But they all mostly suck in LA as most of you in LA know. I didn't feel like driving to COI and even if I did, I don't recognize any names on the roster. No idea what the talent looks like anymore. Closest on my way home is Bare Elegance which at least has or used to have hotties all the time walking around nude, a little expensive for the options, VIP is ridiculous, but at this point I'm not thinking straight so I needed a reminder of dance and VIP prices but couldn't find anything useful on my phone while driving. Decided to just go home and hop in here for a reminder. Holy shit the prices are insane and from the descriptions the quality is gone and no more nude walking around inside.
Seems like any option where I get what I'm looking for is going to run me $400 & more easily and with a lot of risk of getting no satisfaction. Used to be easy to find what I wanted for $200 or less and any day of the week, almost any time, almost anywhere.
Part of it is economy and COVID but now the best ladies just fire up a fan site and make money behind a camera. Probably also more crackdowns past 5 years. World should have been getting better but it's become a vast dry desert. Very depressing for me. The scene was my best outlet to relax from stress and clear my busy mind.
I've even tried the various sugar sites on & off and the very early days of them when they proliferated about 8 years ago there were some gems to find with some effort. Now they're full of snobs looking for gold, or unreliable, and takes way too much effort to gain traction.
Swipe apps are garbage.
The most used ho sites are just too full of LE keeping an eye that I can't risk presence there.
Can a guy get a break somewhere? I'm too old now to go clubbing solo, and I'm not looking to pick up washed-up cougars from bars.
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I will play along and comment on your discussion and answer your question.
You wrote and I quote:
“I've even tried the various sugar sites on & off and the very early days of them when they proliferated about 8 years ago there were some gems to find with some effort.”
You yourself said it; you can find some gems, but you have to put some effort.
The he paid-for-sex experience can be an expensive hobby for most people, now even more with the inflation.
You should have a good idea about it being possible and how much it costs, but… can you really afford it?
“Don’t Buy Things You Can’t Afford”
Despite it being a simple premise, Americans buy things that they cannot afford all of the time and end in debt and unhappy.
By having a budget and making a goal of saving a certain amount a month, you’ll be more motivated to avoid spending in non-essential things, because you will know the savings will go toward a future trip to the Happiest Place on Earth (according to Krusty)
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1401
If you really can afford the paid for-sex-hobby south of the border, just take the trolley/streetcar to the border and walk across to the Happiest Place on Earth.
Q: Can a guy get a break somewhere?
A: Yes the girls on Figueroa Street, there are some unicorns 🦄 there, seven, eights, and I have seen a nine.
I have seen the girls on Figueroa Street between 69th Street all the way down to 104th Street.
The girls are not being bothered/hassled by the police, and seem to be in a very relax environment.
Just be careful and aware of your rights.
If a police officer by a remote chance stops you, immediately say you wish to remain silent and ask for a lawyer immediately.
Do not give any explanations or excuses.
Do not say anything more without your lawyer being present.
Most likely they will let you go with a warning, because they know they won’t be able to prosecute and they will be liable for false arrest.
Just be careful out there.
Remember that you usually get what you pay for.
Good service is not cheap and
Cheap service is not good.
:D
My low expectations of lap dance only and go home to family allows for easy expectations met. My situation is different than most.
But if $100 is a lot to you get a cheaper hobby.
Also skid row hoes....
This isn’t a cheap hobby, and if you get annoyed because it’s expensive, then you should find a cheaper hobby.
If you want a cheap hobby, maybe try badminton or bowling.
Back when I first started all this many years ago, I thought the only option was escort sites and that nothing ever happened in strip clubs. I was wrong and I started to find different ways to find consistent talent. Maybe I am wrong now, though it seems daunting.
Anyway, it's highly subjective, I know, but I'm struggling with the idea that LA is a strip club / sex work wasteland. As far as the costs go, I'd love to go back to the days when I paid $1.10 / gallon, but that ain't happening and I still need to drive. So, I spend the money. Ditto with strippers.
Go to more clubs and I suspect that you'll find at least one dancer you like in all of LA. But maybe go when you're not so backed up and frustrated that you're sweating jizz. I get it. It's a rant. We all get to complain once in a while.
Remember
“In this country, you gotta make the money first.
Then when you get the money, you get the power.
Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”
~ Cuban refugee Tony Montana (Al Pacino) in the movie Scarface.
Every day in Los Angeles, California; beautiful girls, over 18 years old, from all over the world are arriving to try to make it as actresses, models, porn stars, escorts, influencers, trophy git friends/wives, party girls, strippers, etc etc etc.
You just have to invest the time and effort to look for what you want, when you find her, find the price, and pay the price.
:D
Food prices vary, things like milk and ground beef have stayed at the same price the last 3+ years at the bigger stores... restaurants have had big increases but grocery stores dont seem to have had the same increases.
Inflated prices are just part of the new normal at the moment just like with everything else. The girls realize that prices and wages for normal jobs have both increased and that has led them to raise their prices. This will be the case at least until the market hits a major recession even worse than we currently have to drive all types of prices down.
On the bright side since you are in LA you are only a couple of hours from Tijuana where prices will be more what you used to see. I know it is not exactly convenient but it is at least doable on a weekend or day off.
As for "too old to club alone" I don't even know what that means. I regularly see guys well into retirement at the clubs and we have several very active members of this board that are into their 70s or 80s and still clubbing strong. Unless you are at the point of needing constant nursing care you can still club alone, especially since you are clearly still driving. If you can drive to the club alone you can club alone.
Los Angeles was cheap when the talent was plentiful and economics didn't work well for hot women. Even with a crappy economy they have a lot more choices now that take nothing more than a smart phone in their hand to take advantage. Then again, it's possible my perspective is lost or I have less time on my hands to put energy into the search. I'm trying to inspire myself to find new angles, have just been coming up empty a lot more often of late.
I think you should start by having realistic expectations about life in general and the hobby in particular.
We all hope/dream of a “perfect life” and a “perfect experience” in the adult industry hobby…
The reality is that he odds are against it, nothing in this world is ever “perfect”, or as we want it or imagine it, or dream of it.
Expect and accept the reality of snags, some annoying people, girls 6 and down instead of 7 and up, overpriced menus and requests for tips and on and on, don’t let them ruin your enjoyment of the hobby, it is up to you to make the best of the experiences in your life.
A positive attitude and positive thinking will let you do everything better and enjoy your experience in life and the hobby in general and at the Happiest Place on Earth in particular.
You might start by enjoying the process, “the search”, “the hunt” for information, the learning process, make it an enjoyable, fun experience for you.
Enjoy the anticipation, some will say that is better sometimes than the actual experience.
Enjoy the good experiences. And enjoy remembering those good memories.
Like I said before; With the right mindset and realistic expectations, most heterosexual men will have a good time at Hong Kong because it is, according to Krusty, the Happiest Place on Earth.
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1401
And you can find some girls that you will like.
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11731
You should consider that one of the many highlights of the Happiest Place on Earth is that, for most American tourists, prices are relatively inexpensive by US standards.
Also you should check out the girls of Figueroa Street, there are some unicorns 🦄 out there.
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=12186
So don’t overthink or complicate things, don’t worry be happy and of course be careful out there.
You wrote and I quote:
“There's Skid Row and El Monte”
Exact Locations, Pics and Vids or it isn’t so.
:D