Have been clubbing for about a year consistently now. Before this I had only been to strip club once in my life. Most of of these trips have been to gentleman’s club and not just a dive where there is a lot of twerking and no private dances. I’ll take a two month break here and ther just so I can miss the club and then I return and that thrill is still there due to seeing new talent or girls I may have not danced there before. I’m gone from regular private dances all the way up to two way touching and making out in front room. So I ask myself this, is all of this pointless for PL to continue patronizing SC’s if we do no intend on doing OTC or at least ITC extras. Because to me being paying for countless dances with no FS is a chumps game. And if the prospect of OTC is not available in my current spot it may be time for me to move on.
Hmmm, he does front room make out sessions and thinks buying dances is a chump's game. Something about this sounds vaguely familiar. Different people have fun in different ways and there is no one right way to pursue this hobby. I thought going to strip clubs was a waste of time and money and dating was better until I turned fifty-three. Then for twelve years I liked going to strip clubs and having regulars, including one I saw for six years. Now I want variety and have fewer regulars. I could get bored with that and try otc or I could get bored, find another hobby, and stop going to strip clubs completely.
There is no endgame. Either you enjoy them or you don't. I almost never buy dances yet I still find many ways to enjoy clubs. OTC is only one of those ways.
But as an aside, OTC fun can be found almost anywhere. If you can't find it agyer a year then the problem is with you or your wallet or both.
I find the OP to be an ass clown and a douche bag. Someone assigned male at birth is going to use their one post pandemic year strip clubbing as a basis to criticize others? Go fuck yourself.
My Endgame is to control all of the Infiniti stones, put them into my metal glove, then click my fingers. Then I get my wish. However, my wish is a lot different from this Thanos idiot. My wish is that for every woman across the entire universe to be fit, trim, young and gorgeous. And they are horny all the time and all of them are attracted to me.
Icee mate, can you direct to those threads where someone stated being cheated because the stripper wouldnt fuck?
Anyway if you dont enjoy the dance itself then its not worth it... you shouldnt buy a dance hoping youll get otc from it
Lapdances are meant to be you groping her, her grinding on you while youre clothed. Anything beyond that is up to the dancer/whatever is agreed on. Anything below that is a scam/whatever was agreed on
Do not underestimate the importance of having activities in your life that you enjoy just because they're fun, let you forget your stress for a day, etc.
I do sort-of have an endgame with any particular CF, but I thoroughly enjoy every step along the way (e.g., meeting her at a low-mileage alcohol club, drinking and carrying on with her for a few hours). If we never progress past that, it's not wasted time or money, it's a few hours having a ton of fun.
^Fuck off chump. You get a little push back and you whine like a little bitch. Calling people chumps is designed solely to offend people, especially when the one making the claim has jack shit for experience. You get called on it and pee yourself.
You avoid a chump's game:
1. with front room make out sessions that dubiously ever happened.
2. by looking a pictures of Tijuana but never going there.
3. with inappropriate activities with goats.
4. by starting a powerful yet clandestine organization with a global reach.
Seems to be a minority of clubs where you can reliably get extras from a woman you find attractive. You may have better luck with escorts, look at www.theeroticreview.com . But, in my experience, you also have some wasting of money with escorts. It only worked for me by finding escorts I liked and becoming their regular.
"So I ask myself this, is all of this pointless for PL to continue patronizing SC’s if we do no intend on doing OTC or at least ITC extras."
Is this by choice or are you just not getting the results you're looking for? It says intend here, but then you made it sound later like extra innings is something you're looking for.
"Because to me being paying for countless dances with no FS is a chumps game."
Are you enjoying yourself? I had plenty of fun in clubs before I leveled up and never looked back.
"And if the prospect of OTC is not available in my current spot it may be time for me to move on."
So what are you after? After a year it sounds like you're just getting your sea legs.
Dont get dances if you dont enjoy them, dont pay for them if its just in the hopes of getting otc, definitely dont pay for airdances or fancy dinners if it’s all in the hopes of otc
Booty loving ape, this Rick will take you seriously since you may be serious or you may be having some fun and there ain’t nothin’ wrong with that.
The fact that you used “making out in front room” and “chumps game” triggered Skifredo because he’s a little snowflake. He hated a now former poster called the San Jose Ape (aka SJG). SJG was a harmless weirdo blowing off steam who sometimes posted some twisted shit. Most of the time SJG just posted loooong manifesto that this Rick didn’t read because who has time for that shit. We ricks are so cool you normies can’t wrap your brains around how cool we are. Reading long weirdo posts ain’t cool.
Anyhoo, Skifredo was so triggered by SJG that he constantly ranted and raved about him. Despite the fact that he said he wanted someone to “get raped and die.” Now the target of Skifredo’s vitriol was also an asshole, but “get raped and die” is just uncivilized. I mean really…I may threaten to go all wildebeest on those that irritate me but the reality is that wildebeest have a chance to escape. I give my opponents that level of respect and don’t trash talk ‘em with “get raped” horseshit.
Not much of a chance to escape…after all, I’m a frickin’ lion! ROAR!!!
I go to strip clubs to have fun. Plain and simple. I’m there by choice, go/leave sober, and only bring as much $ as I’m willing to spend. I like the attention, the women like my money. I know it’s all a fantasy, and though sometimes it’s difficult I try not to get to attached to any of the ladies. I can think of a better way for me, a 50 year old single male with no wife or kids to spend his time or money.
Pleasure for the eyes, treasures for the hands, warmth in the lap, delights under finger tips. If she's willing, a bit of nipple kissing, perhaps some mutual nipple play.
Inhale some breast scent until the money is spent. Cherish the memories.
My endgame is to have more fun than I would be having with whatever else I was thinking about doing that day.
Some places, like when I am in Columbus, I know nothing more than a good lapdance is going to happen in the club and that OTC is a lot rarer than it used to be. That's why sometimes I'll opt to go to a Blue Jackets game instead of hitting the club and other nights a good lapdance sounds like more fun than watching a game.
Places like Nashville you know you aren't even going to get a good lapdance so I know to just skip the clubs and hit up Broadway for some good food, good music and a lot of drunk bachelorette parties.
Other places, like when I am in Louisville, I know that FS is available if I find the right girl so I generally choose to go to the clubs while I am in town.
Then there are places, like when I am in Lexington, where extras are kind of hit or miss and you don't know what you'll get but I usually hit the clubs because ther really isn't anything better to do in that town.
You just have to look at what's available in the area you are in and decide if strip clubs are the best option to have fun at the time.
I just play it by ear. Have fun and that’s a win. Don’t know if anyone else would admit it, but occasionally I fuck up and catch feels against my intentions. It happens. I live life and move on. Even if I find another girl to be a distraction or even improvement, every one of my experiences is a memory and becomes a part of me. I love my life and that is what I suppose you’d call with credit to Charlie Sheen…WINNING!!!
I don’t think going to strip clubs is cut and dry as things like getting an escort or going to a massage parlor. People that engage in those activities usually have one thing on their mind, whereas going to a club could be for different reasons, a bachelorette party, fight night, having a meal, spicing up the relationship with your significant other. Of course then there are guys like us. Lol
I will play along and answer your question and comment on your discussion.
Q: What is your endgame?
A: my end game is what I call my holy grail:
OTC with a DS with GFE and PSE, with NSA that we both walk away happy, believing it was a Fair Trade and a win win experience.
I like girls that I am attracted to and I have “Chemistry” with. I only go for Takeout (OTC), because is about making your life experiences better.
I am lucky to be near an apparent endless supply of dimes; Beverly Hills, Hollywood and the San Fernando Valley, the Porn Capital of the World.
So there are lots of dimes that come to the area, to try to “make it big” in Hollywood and Beverly Hills, from all over the country and the world.
Lately my ATF’s have been Russian Dimes, and
I mean girls that are super model quality; Hollywood/movie star/starlet quality, educated and nice sweet girls overall.
OTC has many interesting experiences that are individual and unique, the ultimate goal for healthy heterosexual men, even if they are repressed and have guilty feelings, is to have sex, healthy heterosexual man have sexual fantasies about women all the time.
What has worked for me, for good OTC, is to build a trusting relationship with a girl, make sure she knows I am a respectful reliable gentleman, safe, clean, discreet, and fun, funny. (Think Edward (Richard Gere) from the movie Pretty Woman).
My All Time Favorite Stripper, Ally, started dancing when I was going to see a Current Favorite Ariel, who didn’t do OTC, but provided great “dances” ITC.
Ally was just over 20 years, sweet, beautiful and shy. She became friendly and would seat with me while I was waiting for Ariel, would let me know if Ariel was not there, would tell the waitresses to let Ariel know I have arrived.
Once Ally was tired and fell asleep on my shoulder and thanked me for letting her sleep and rest.
One time when Ariel didn’t show up I asked Ally to go with me to the 15 minute VIP, she was so sweet and excited.
We had to wait for a “room” and she sat in my lap and we made out like teenagers. Once in the VIP we went as close as humanly possible to Full Service but didn’t do FS.
After the VIP I asked Ally if she would be interested in OTC (“would you be interested in meeting outside the club, we can have a better, more comfortable experience, and you don’t have to share money with the club?”) and gave her my number, but she said she didn’t do that.
I keep going to visit Ariel and she didn’t show up another time and I took Ally to the VIP again, and again we were so close to FS, but we didn’t have FS, however she was so nice, excited, shy and cute.
I was still visiting Ariel, on the weekends, when Ally texted me on the middle of the week to ask me if I was still interested on OTC with her, I answer of course I am.
We made an appointment, I went to pick her up near her place and we went to a small hotel and had a very nice GFE type of experience. Ally was a sweet and nice Baby Stripper.
Ally and I developed a Sugar Baby type of relationship, we had OTC almost every week for more than two years.
I would pick her up on Sunday afternoon, get a nice hotel room and make love, massage each other, have room service, sometimes we would go to dinner to a nice fancy place.
She would refer to me as her fiancé to other people, her sister told me.
I have thousands of pictures of her modeling cute sexy outfits I got for her. Around Halloween she was slave princesses Leia from Star Wars, Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader, Playboy Bunny. Around Christmas a sexy miss Santa, naughty school girl.
Like I said Ally was a baby stripper when we meet, very sweet and nice, the sex got better and better because she was more comfortable and felt safe relaxed and was able to let herself go and enjoy it, I enjoyed it too, she would experience multiple orgasms and was very shy and sweet about it.
Sometimes she would spend the night and would fall a sleep with her head on my chest like the little angel she was.
She texted me one last time letting me know she was moving on and thanking me for the relationship...
She was worth every penny and every second I spent with her.
Thank you for making me remember that OTC relationship.
With respect to escorts what worked for me was selecting a high end escort; for example a twenty something girl from Russia in Beverly Hills.
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I literally only hear this phrase uttered by he who should remain nameless. Troll alert
To have fun.
But as an aside, OTC fun can be found almost anywhere. If you can't find it agyer a year then the problem is with you or your wallet or both.
Anybody got a better plan ?
Anyway if you dont enjoy the dance itself then its not worth it... you shouldnt buy a dance hoping youll get otc from it
Lapdances are meant to be you groping her, her grinding on you while youre clothed. Anything beyond that is up to the dancer/whatever is agreed on. Anything below that is a scam/whatever was agreed on
I do sort-of have an endgame with any particular CF, but I thoroughly enjoy every step along the way (e.g., meeting her at a low-mileage alcohol club, drinking and carrying on with her for a few hours). If we never progress past that, it's not wasted time or money, it's a few hours having a ton of fun.
1. with front room make out sessions that dubiously ever happened.
2. by looking a pictures of Tijuana but never going there.
3. with inappropriate activities with goats.
4. by starting a powerful yet clandestine organization with a global reach.
Seems to be a minority of clubs where you can reliably get extras from a woman you find attractive. You may have better luck with escorts, look at www.theeroticreview.com . But, in my experience, you also have some wasting of money with escorts. It only worked for me by finding escorts I liked and becoming their regular.
Is this by choice or are you just not getting the results you're looking for? It says intend here, but then you made it sound later like extra innings is something you're looking for.
"Because to me being paying for countless dances with no FS is a chumps game."
Are you enjoying yourself? I had plenty of fun in clubs before I leveled up and never looked back.
"And if the prospect of OTC is not available in my current spot it may be time for me to move on."
So what are you after? After a year it sounds like you're just getting your sea legs.
The fact that you used “making out in front room” and “chumps game” triggered Skifredo because he’s a little snowflake. He hated a now former poster called the San Jose Ape (aka SJG). SJG was a harmless weirdo blowing off steam who sometimes posted some twisted shit. Most of the time SJG just posted loooong manifesto that this Rick didn’t read because who has time for that shit. We ricks are so cool you normies can’t wrap your brains around how cool we are. Reading long weirdo posts ain’t cool.
Anyhoo, Skifredo was so triggered by SJG that he constantly ranted and raved about him. Despite the fact that he said he wanted someone to “get raped and die.” Now the target of Skifredo’s vitriol was also an asshole, but “get raped and die” is just uncivilized. I mean really…I may threaten to go all wildebeest on those that irritate me but the reality is that wildebeest have a chance to escape. I give my opponents that level of respect and don’t trash talk ‘em with “get raped” horseshit.
Not much of a chance to escape…after all, I’m a frickin’ lion! ROAR!!!
Pleasure for the eyes, treasures for the hands, warmth in the lap, delights under finger tips. If she's willing, a bit of nipple kissing, perhaps some mutual nipple play.
Inhale some breast scent until the money is spent. Cherish the memories.
Some places, like when I am in Columbus, I know nothing more than a good lapdance is going to happen in the club and that OTC is a lot rarer than it used to be. That's why sometimes I'll opt to go to a Blue Jackets game instead of hitting the club and other nights a good lapdance sounds like more fun than watching a game.
Places like Nashville you know you aren't even going to get a good lapdance so I know to just skip the clubs and hit up Broadway for some good food, good music and a lot of drunk bachelorette parties.
Other places, like when I am in Louisville, I know that FS is available if I find the right girl so I generally choose to go to the clubs while I am in town.
Then there are places, like when I am in Lexington, where extras are kind of hit or miss and you don't know what you'll get but I usually hit the clubs because ther really isn't anything better to do in that town.
You just have to look at what's available in the area you are in and decide if strip clubs are the best option to have fun at the time.
Yes.
I will play along and answer your question and comment on your discussion.
Q: What is your endgame?
A: my end game is what I call my holy grail:
OTC with a DS with GFE and PSE, with NSA that we both walk away happy, believing it was a Fair Trade and a win win experience.
I like girls that I am attracted to and I have “Chemistry” with. I only go for Takeout (OTC), because is about making your life experiences better.
I am lucky to be near an apparent endless supply of dimes; Beverly Hills, Hollywood and the San Fernando Valley, the Porn Capital of the World.
So there are lots of dimes that come to the area, to try to “make it big” in Hollywood and Beverly Hills, from all over the country and the world.
Lately my ATF’s have been Russian Dimes, and
I mean girls that are super model quality; Hollywood/movie star/starlet quality, educated and nice sweet girls overall.
OTC has many interesting experiences that are individual and unique, the ultimate goal for healthy heterosexual men, even if they are repressed and have guilty feelings, is to have sex, healthy heterosexual man have sexual fantasies about women all the time.
What has worked for me, for good OTC, is to build a trusting relationship with a girl, make sure she knows I am a respectful reliable gentleman, safe, clean, discreet, and fun, funny. (Think Edward (Richard Gere) from the movie Pretty Woman).
My All Time Favorite Stripper, Ally, started dancing when I was going to see a Current Favorite Ariel, who didn’t do OTC, but provided great “dances” ITC.
Ally was just over 20 years, sweet, beautiful and shy. She became friendly and would seat with me while I was waiting for Ariel, would let me know if Ariel was not there, would tell the waitresses to let Ariel know I have arrived.
Once Ally was tired and fell asleep on my shoulder and thanked me for letting her sleep and rest.
One time when Ariel didn’t show up I asked Ally to go with me to the 15 minute VIP, she was so sweet and excited.
We had to wait for a “room” and she sat in my lap and we made out like teenagers. Once in the VIP we went as close as humanly possible to Full Service but didn’t do FS.
After the VIP I asked Ally if she would be interested in OTC (“would you be interested in meeting outside the club, we can have a better, more comfortable experience, and you don’t have to share money with the club?”) and gave her my number, but she said she didn’t do that.
I keep going to visit Ariel and she didn’t show up another time and I took Ally to the VIP again, and again we were so close to FS, but we didn’t have FS, however she was so nice, excited, shy and cute.
I was still visiting Ariel, on the weekends, when Ally texted me on the middle of the week to ask me if I was still interested on OTC with her, I answer of course I am.
We made an appointment, I went to pick her up near her place and we went to a small hotel and had a very nice GFE type of experience. Ally was a sweet and nice Baby Stripper.
Ally and I developed a Sugar Baby type of relationship, we had OTC almost every week for more than two years.
I would pick her up on Sunday afternoon, get a nice hotel room and make love, massage each other, have room service, sometimes we would go to dinner to a nice fancy place.
She would refer to me as her fiancé to other people, her sister told me.
I have thousands of pictures of her modeling cute sexy outfits I got for her. Around Halloween she was slave princesses Leia from Star Wars, Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader, Playboy Bunny. Around Christmas a sexy miss Santa, naughty school girl.
Like I said Ally was a baby stripper when we meet, very sweet and nice, the sex got better and better because she was more comfortable and felt safe relaxed and was able to let herself go and enjoy it, I enjoyed it too, she would experience multiple orgasms and was very shy and sweet about it.
Sometimes she would spend the night and would fall a sleep with her head on my chest like the little angel she was.
She texted me one last time letting me know she was moving on and thanking me for the relationship...
She was worth every penny and every second I spent with her.
Thank you for making me remember that OTC relationship.
With respect to escorts what worked for me was selecting a high end escort; for example a twenty something girl from Russia in Beverly Hills.
I wrote an article about that experience:
“How I found my All Time Favorite woman.”
https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=50809
Remember; the ultimate goal of a heterosexual healthy the man in life is to have sex with females he finds attractive.
According to Sigmund Freud
“Sex is a prime motivator and common denominator for male humans...”
I’ll know it when I cum across it…
SMH