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2 years ago
Hannibal: I think those are behaviors that are sort of leading indicators. Not all come-on-strong duos are ROBs... but soooo many are, that you're really upping your chances of having a terrible time. You want lapdances with two girls, I suggest grabbing your CF (who by definition isn't a ROB), ask her who she wants to do a two-girl dance with. Never go with a random aggressive duo.
The same goes for girls who we call "door vultures". They're the girls who come on super strong the moment you enter the club. They're going to pounce on you fast, they won't take no for an answer; there's a good chance they'll offer you a club tour. These are always the worst girls in the club, either ROBs or just terrible low-value strippers. They pounce on you fast because they want you a little off your game before you've had time to adjust to the club. These girls can't or won't generate regulars or any type of repeat business, because their dances are so terrible, or they are ROBs, so their entire business model is based on fleecing the guys who walk in, before any other girls get to them. Many of the clubs I've been to have door vultures -- business-wise, it's my impression they are very successful financially, constantly bringing guys to the back or on "tours", then guys emerging 10 minutes later looking bewildered and VERY unhappy
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2 years ago
I missed the "over a year". Yes, verrrry long time
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2 years ago
I've certainly had strippers progress as far as mileage. The progression is faster, and there's less room to go, with more experienced strippers. Baby strippers, especially "this is my first week", the progression can go far
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2 years ago
Maybe don't kiss her on the mouth 'cause, well, you know
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2 years ago
Hug an extras girl today!!
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2 years ago
Ya, never experienced that either.
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2 years ago
On stripper forums, when there are "have you ever dated a customer?" threads, a huge number of strippers say yes they have. Although that is often followed by "Once. Never again." 🤣
I haven't found it nearly as common as you. But I've seen it enough to believe that "date a guy (even a customer) who is 15 years older, as a strategy to change her life situation" may not be exactly common, but it's a thing. She's stuck in a rut without money, and a 40 year old guy has had a lot of time to build wealth, and may be more inclined to spend it on her, so he's her exit strategy.
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2 years ago
Lockjaw, you and I are the minority but I am 1000% with you. Everything you said in the sentence "I would like to see more..." is spot on what makes an interesting review.
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2 years ago
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rickthelionStraight outta tha NC, comin' atcha with an AK ready to steal your daughter. ROAR!!!
Pippen got RICKED
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2 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Hi
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2 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
SirLaapdancealot: it's comments like that that will get you disinvited from the Organization.
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2 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
"You all need to stop hating on SJG - once his organization is up to full-speed, FRMOS will be the law of the land"
Spoiler alert: Organization HQ is going to be laid out so the whole thing is just one huge front room. Anywhere you make out, it's a FRMOS. Just grab the sloppy, cottage-cheese ass, ghetto, tatted and bejazzled heifer of your choice, plant a big ol' kiss, and the next thing you know, the #1 all time poster himself is handing you your official FRMOS patch!
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2 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
Looks like some of you are intimidated and frightened that sjg will soon be the boss of you and alltime post leader.
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2 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
Congrats sjg! Once san jose guy has the most posts, it means he's the boss of all of you. Recognize, choads!
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2 years ago
I think there's a mix of two things going on, but neither is jealousy:
- Every one of us has turned down a dancer and been hit with "what, you don't like black girls?" as a manipulation tactic. We don't get this from Asian or Latina dancers, it's just the black girls. They use it because it works, with certain weak customers.
- There is both preference and racism at play. In mixed clubs, black girls tend to get less interest than anyone else, IME. And a higher percentage of their customers are black customers. So when a black customer comes in, and they think "finally! someone I can try to get a dance from" and you pick a white girl also, it's legitimately frustrating and discouraging and even demoralizing. To the extent you're picking up real emotion, it's this, not jealousy.
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2 years ago
Same with me. My initial contacts are scammers, uggos, online only girls, girls from the Philippines, escorts... and the occasional really hot prospect. But I would have found the hot prospect via search and contacted her myself anyway, so no gain for having profile visible.
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2 years ago
In fact, best thing you can do for yourself is just hide your profile so no SB can see you unless you message them first. That at least means all the scammers and girls from different continents can't message you
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2 years ago
First couple of weeks of a new profile, the contacts are overwhelmingly scammers and escorts. I wouldn't get too excited yet 🤣
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2 years ago
" SOOOOOOOO I am not going to use those 3 letters together again"
Congrats on getting back on! It's not just those 3 letters -- just refuse to have ANY financial discussions on Seeking. The moment she says she wants to talk about finances, suggest switching to texting. If she refuses, move on, not worth the risk. Even any kind of innuendo can result in a ban. No financial discussions on Seeking, end of story.
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2 years ago
The biggest "I'm disgusted with myself" stories ALWAYS come from escort customers. I don't know how many times I've seen "escort showed up, instead of a slim beautiful 30 year old she was a fat drugged out 55 year old... fucked her anyway" stories from escort forums. I think that by the time you reach your escort, set up the appointment, get verified, get yourself horny so you're ready to go when she gets there, it's difficult to turn her away even when she shows looking like Icee's pretend coke addict toothless girlfriend. So escort guys do disgusting things with disgusting women, then spend the next week re-examining their life choices. Yet another reason OTC rules man 🤣🤣🤣
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2 years ago
"No thank you. The girls that I prefer have the good sense to leave their dependent bitches at home where they belong."
Yep. Could you imagine he's so weak emotionally that he has to be in the club with her? The clubs I'm a regular at -- relatively higher end alcohol clubs -- have zero tolerance for this, due to all the potential drama. Are these guys so needy that they have to be in the club, but at the same time master actors so it isn't obvious? I dunno, guess if it's happening I'd never be able to tell :)
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2 years ago
Sorry, TLDR: the fact that a clueless guy could wander through a stripclub and eventually get an escort-like overpriced OTC with a high volume OTC girl (IOW, no knowledge required), doesn't also mean some basic knowledge and strategy won't increase your chances of having mind-blowing OTCs with lower-volume girls at a reasonable pricepoint.
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2 years ago
I find areas to agree with everyone 🤣 I agree, firstly, with twenty five -- getting OTC is not, in fact, rocket science. That doesn't mean that there isn't some basic, non-rocket-science knowledge and strategy you can use, that will drastically increase your chances of having a great OTC. Minor example: how to best negotiate to get the pricepoint you want. Minor example: if you ask and she says "maybe, I need to get more comfortable" can you actually transition that to a yes? Minor example: should you or she negotiate for time in advance?
I have said many times, I think negotiating for time in advance is monumentally stupid -- and if SHE tries to negotiate for time in advance, it means she has an escort-like OTC model, so fire her immediately and move on. I personally have experienced the "maybe, I need to get to know you better" response from strippers, and had amazing OTC a few weeks later after seeing her a couple more times -- but we also know some strippers have no intention of OTC and use this as a delaying tactic. The strategy here isn't rocket science -- see her a couple more times, ask her again, move on if she demurs.
There are lots of guys reporting terrible, escort-like OTCs, or totally overpaying, or blowing it and having a low-volume OTC girl reject him because he didn't invest a tiny bit in making her feel safe. None of this is rocket science -- but there are ways to play this to increase your chances of getting an OTC with a low volume girl, decrease your chances of getting a terrible escort-like OTC, increase your chances of paying a pricepoint you're comfortable with, increase your chances of having a mind-blowingly fun OTC that you can repeat into the future. A guy who doesn't apply any of this might still get OTCs with escort-like strippers, or might get lucky and find a great low-volume OTC girl and just press her buttons right. But I'd rather stack the deck in my favor to have mind-blowingly fun OTCs at an affordable price, even with harder-to-get girls.
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2 years ago
" yes where I'm at there a very attractive strippers, but not found any escort who appeal to me"
Even in bigger areas, escorts as a whole aren't as attractive as a hot stripper. Don't get me wrong, there are escorts who are attractive as the hottest strippers, but those are mostly high-end escorts, in a totally different class of escorts. Other than those, most escort pics that look as good as a top stripper, are not nearly so hot in real life.
All of that is irrelevant, though. OTC is a completely different experience than seeing an escort. If your OTCs are like seeing an escort, it just doesn't make sense to me to keep doing OTCs -- worst of all worlds, stripper reliability + escort professionalism. Even if escorts were as attractive as strippers, escort sessions don't excite me. OTC does; totally different beast
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2 years ago
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TiburonEvery woman's local ATM while in da club? How else they paying for their Boob jobs?
I haven't heard of a fuck off fee before, but for quite a while various stripper forums have been asserting that a customer should tip every stripper who approaches them. Even if she comes over uninvited, asks if he wants a dance, and he says no, he should tip her. I suppose those customers who specifically seek advice from stripper-oriented rather than customer-oriented forums, deserve whatever advice they get.