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5 years ago
Whodey wearing his Drakkar Noir http://www.jersify.com/media/css/images/guido-kissy-face.jpg
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5 years ago
I aim to please, SJG!
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5 years ago
In general, I've found most strippers have high-school type preferences: in particular, mass-appeal synthetic style scents. I do sometimes wear colognes like Creed Pure White or Clive Christian 1872 to the SC, just for the fun of it, but they actually don't always get noticed, or at least the girls rarely say anything about them
The kinds of scents that strippers nearly always notice, for me have been things like Rochas Man, Givenchy Play Intense, Carolina Herrera 212 Men, Armani Code, Nautica Voyage, Acqua di Gio, Gucci Guilty Intense, even Le Male. Like I said, synthetic-smelling mass appeal scents, many of which get popular in high school. If you want a more modern, slightly higher quality take on those, but still in the "stripper love" vibe, check out Prada L'homme
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5 years ago
Just be explicit.
I don't quite understand the scenario you're worried about, "if LEO is there", "if LEO is present". How is LEO there? Are you thinking it's an undercover stripper trying to bust PLs? Are you thinking there's a LEO across the club who can somehow hear your conversation? Has LEO bugged the champagne room and can hear your conversation?
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5 years ago
I have a buddy who uses it; we go to the dispensary together, I get something fun, he gets CBD oil lol. I think he might use it for sciatica. If I remember right, he recently changed from some type of pill that didn't have any THC, to some type of topical oil that does contain THC (but they claim the THC doesn't get absorbed into the bloodstream and make you high). I might see him tonight to watch the fights, if he stops by I'll quiz him a bit on his experience.
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5 years ago
My mistake, nice spices response made me think you were referencing me lol.
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5 years ago
-->"To be fair, I don’t think most men (like Subra 😝) who demand strippers drink aren’t trying to be predators persay. It’s just simply that it’s the activity he wants to do and he wants to be around like minded people who enjoy the same thing. "
There's no extras in the club I go to, so there's no "drunk to fuck" element. The extras clubs are all no-alcohol, at least in this area, so the two are mutually exclusive. I'm not even trying to take advantage of the stripper -- the fact is, a buzzed stripper is often marginally more fun than a sober one, but a drunk stripper is less fun than both, so I try not to take them too far.
Still, there's always an element of retards on tuscl playing the "you're having fun the wrong way" card . I love drinking with hot strippers, it's the way my buddies and I have fun in the strip club. No harm if a stripper doesn't want to drink, no hard feelings, she's welcome to go not drink with any other customers in the club.
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5 years ago
Just calling it the numbers "game" sounds like the thinking here isn't very clear. There's no real "game" going on -- she gives you her number, you two use it to arrange to meet again, or for her to sweet talk you into coming back... or not, whatever. The only place there's a "game" is in the PL's head, if he's confused about her intentions
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5 years ago
-->"I’m sure there’s plenty of hustlers that just want to get me back in the club, but so what? If she’s already fucked me in the club that’s a good thing right?"
I think one of the indications that someone is NOT emotionally equipped to handle this, is that they get insulted that the reason a stripper offered a phone number, is to get them back in the club. If you want to see her again, having her get you back in the club is good. IF she sends you flirty texts and nudies to get you all fired up to see her in the club, that's good. If you want to see her again, being able to text her and make an appointment is awesome. The only way there's any downside is if you have a really unhealthy and immature outlook that results in you feeling hurt and insulted that her offer of her phone number is to trick you into thinking she likes you or whatever. That's blaming her, for your own faults. And again, for people in that situation -- given your own unhealthy issues, it's best not to take her phone number, dealing with strippers is not necessarily a good prescription for someone already grappling with problems
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5 years ago
I go to a number of clubs where the waitresses can dance. The policy is, her choice -- and in most cases they're very choosey. And, when you go to the VIP, you have to bring both the waitress and a stripper, and pay them both. This to allay stripper resentment
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5 years ago
I absolutely still spend on her ITC. I'm still going to the SC regardless -- many of my SC trips are with friends, and no matter what I'll be making trips with my buddies for some quality bro time. And as long as I'm at the SC, of course the one I'm spending all my $ on is my CF / OTC girl. I'll be encouraging my buddies to spend their $ on her, too, if they like her.
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5 years ago
luvub, given that you seem to have an emotionally unhealthy outlook, I think your policy of not taking numbers is probably for the best. You're probably avoiding really, really negative experiences, by not engaging in an area of interaction in which you might be confused and vulnerable.
I get every stripper's number, as soon as I decide I'd like to return to see her. For me, it's led to nothing but great experiences, and being able to set up appointments, groom her for OTC, get a nudie pic here and there, etc., is the cornerstone of my SC fun.
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5 years ago
lol no insult taken. I'm not everyone's cup of tea, and not everyone's mine.
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5 years ago
I'm a "get drunk with the stripper" customer. If you don't want to drink, that's fine, but no matter what the reason -- recovering alcoholic, pregnant, trying to cut down for health or weight reasons -- if you pass on drinking, I'll wish you good day and find someone else. This wasn't as big a deal when I went to extras clubs, but now that I mostly go to no-extras clubs, drinking is a huge part of the experience.
Maybe just a matter of finding the right customers lol...
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5 years ago
shadow, The ejaculation feels just as good??
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5 years ago
Like Warrior, I haven't noticed the age thing much. But, just like on regular dating sites, women often show up heavier, and their pics are commonly a bunch of years old. Basically, expect to be a little disappointed in how they look versus their pics, and most of the time, you'll be okay. Once in a while she'll look better than her pics, once in a while she'll look much worse than her pics, but most of the time, she'll live up to your expectation that she looks just a little worse than her pics.
-->"Some actually think they can get paid to have a platonic relationship with you."
That's because the media is absolutely showering these girls with that message. IF you look at sugarbaby media aimed at women -- in women's magazines, on youtube channels aimed at women -- you will find interview after interview of SBs claiming to get $10k/month and jewels and cars and luxury travel, without having to have sex with their SD. From the perspective of a young woman who has done all her research on women's media, she really can't be blamed for thinking this is reality, because every interview presents that same picture. Obviously enough, for the most part, the $10k/month platonic baby DOES NOT EXIST. So these girls go on SA, get abused by the johns, manipulated by the icey/PUA types, sometimes become rinsers, eventually get fed up and leave.
Not that platonic arrangements don't exist -- they are rare, but many SBs who have been in the game a while have had one. They report that most SDs who agree to this, do it because they have erectile dysfunction; allowances are much much lower, and because there's no physical interaction, the SB's "sugar" is to basically shoulder the emotional baggage of being his therapist. I've heard an SB say, "after dealing with that for 6 months, I would have rather just fucked him than keep having to be sympathetic to his constant neediness". This, at least, is the picture that SBs paint of platonic arrangements.
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5 years ago
To summarize:
- Strippers are in the game; they are adults and this is the decision they've made.
- I can't know exactly what situation a stripper is in. But I do know my own intentions: not to fuck anyone over. Although, like any consumer, I do put myself in situations where I can get good value.
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5 years ago
Ish, definitely true. In nearly all cases, there's the option of working for less (sometimes far less) money. Although if it's not a wage she can live on, is it really an option? Like I said, I don't know that it's worth getting too wrapped around that axle. She's an adult, she's chosen to be in the sex industry; I don't feel it's unethical to be part of the sex industry, I don't feel bad about looking for a good deal for myself, but I'm not looking to fuck anyone over.
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5 years ago
-->"Ive never used a dancer's desperation against her. that's predatory imo"
Don't you think the mere fact that she's in a strip club, to some extent reflects that she has few options?
-->"If a dancer wants to offer services on her own, im open to listening."
Now I'm confused -- don't you think a dancer who pro-actively "offers services" is likely far more desperate than a stripper who just considers offers?
I'm not picking on you rh. I actually think this is an area fraught with contradictions and hypocrisy -- I'm quite certain that if I examined my own views, there might be areas where I get all indignant about ethics, and others where others get indignant with me.
For myself, my very loose and probably contradictory thoughts:
- I have ideas on when I think it's ok and when it's not ok to proposition a civilian. In the sugaring world, this is actually a well-known activity they call "Freestyling". But I've never actually done it, maybe being a little conflicted
- As far as I'm concerned, strippers and sugarbabies are "in the game". I don't seek the exploit them, but am always looking for win-win. On the other hand, if I'm honest, what does the fact that I specifically go to the SC on the slowest days and times mean? And on SA, I've met girls from Stanford and Berkeley, these are elite women who just happen to be going to expensive schools and live in the most expensive area in the country, if they weren't "desperate", would they be meeting with me in the first place? My strategy is to acknowledge they're adults who have chosen to be in the game, I treat them fairly, and that's as far as I've gotten.
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5 years ago
-->"They often send interesting snaps with snapchat."
Right. Texting is easily the most convenient way to exchange messages.
The reason you want to be on her snapchat is because she'll send you more nudes and sexy pics (along with posting such pics gratuitously on her story). Yes, she can send you nudes by text also, but she won't, or at least she won't send you as many. Once you're on her snapchat, the pics will come. So if you like pics, it's a big win.
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5 years ago
Ish, I've been guessing he's on the spectrum. He does have a history, so probably not a troll... but has a lot of trouble writing and communicating
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5 years ago
I actually had 3 strokes trying to follow that
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5 years ago
I prefer sending messages back and forth via texting. I'm not a dummy, so I have a second line, I don't give them my real number.
I prefer receiving nudes and sending dick pics via Snapchat. Just super convenient to use, and gives the illusion that the pics go away, so they're apt to use it more
They are always more forthcoming with a phone number for texting, less forthcoming with their snapchat, although that has been changing noticeably over the past few years. Also many girls have moved to instagram, it feels like
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5 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Papi, I am going to suggest we burn some sage for you at the drum circle again tonight.