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7 years ago
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Doces300You can run but you will only die tired
There is no "legit" app more unethical in aggressively using whatever means it has to make connections, than Facebook, IMO (again, re-read the part where last year they got caught turning your mic on and listening to what's in the background, to target ads at you; made more ironic when we discovered a picture of Zuckerberg at his laptop, and he himself covers both his mic and video camera with tape, to prevent snooping!). I removed the Facebook app from my phone entirely.
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7 years ago
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Doces300You can run but you will only die tired
If Venmo were as aggressive and efficient as Facebook as spying on me and making connections with strippers, I might bankrupt :)
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7 years ago
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Doces300You can run but you will only die tired
It takes no investigation on her part, whatsoever. It is facebook that is using machine learning to conduct this investigation -- facebook knows your friends, and likely also has your phone number (you gave it to them as a password recovery mechanism) and email. Facebook is also one of the most intrusive and spy-ful apps out there, if you have it on your phone, they likely know where you've been and even at one time used to turn on your mic and listen to the music that's playing, to target ads at you. In short, through one of those mechanisms -- most likely phone # and email -- they connected you to her, then put your page up into her "suggested friends list". I have all kinds of strippers in my facebook suggested friends list, in my WhatsApp suggested friends list, in my Voxer suggested friends list, etc. Luckily, my facebook page is a "fake" facebook -- it's only got strippers on it!
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7 years ago
She's trying to spread the wealth to her friends, set you up with girls who won't try to steal you from her, etc. There's a good chance the girls provide vaguely the same level of service. Definitely use your words with your CF to ask ...my CFs have always been honest with me about their stand-ins, to a point.
On the upside, it's likely she won't steer you towards ROBs. On the downside, she's not going to steer you towards anyone she's threatened by, who provides better service than her, or more mileage for a lower price, etc.
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7 years ago
so THAT's why facebook keeps showing me ads for assless chaps and anal beads! Thanks guys, you solved that mystery
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7 years ago
My ATATF introduced me to her mom. At the time I wondered what this was about, but in retrospect I can see how doing so met her needs, and sometimes works out nicely for me, too. Her mom knew what business she was in (and I suspect might have been in it herself at one time), so there was no shame factor or anything, mom knew about ATATF's favorite customer/sucker for a long time.
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7 years ago
-->"Or she's a 35 year-old with a knife who isn't opposed to the idea of busting a beer bottle over your head."
Dang, dude, you've been SCing at juice's fave places?
:) :)
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7 years ago
There are some clubs where tipping the bouncer to give you some space is a known cost of doing business. I haven't been to a club like that for years, but if throwing the bouncer some scratch will drastically improve the experience of my $100 VIP dance, I'll go along to get along. Beyond that, I rarely tip the bouncer unless he's done something directly for me. But as documented in the other thread, I do get on friendly terms with the bouncer in other ways, and this tends to deliver some small or not-so-small benefits
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7 years ago
I might suggest you're asking the wrong question ... or maybe it's a fine question, but there's another question you should be asking yourself first: "she's in sales, I've indicated to her that I don't want a dance, and she's still staying. Why?" Maybe, it's because she can tell you're weak. If you're passive aggressive ("maybe later"), insecure demeanor and body language, etc., these girls VERY easily pick that up. And the more aggressive strippers know that an aggressive alpha female stripper can bully a submissive beta male customer VERY often.
The answer? She's a 20-year-old 110-pound girl in her underwear. Don't be a little bitch. Tips here: https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=49689
Obviously, that's not all of it. I'm (usually) not a little bitch, and some hyper-aggressive girls sit and stay anyway, so I'm not entirely blaming you. But I will suggest if this happens to you fairly often, you should first work on your confidence and demeanor so that 90% of even the aggressive strippers just go away. THEN, you can worry about how to handle the rare exception.
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7 years ago
If you're a white man over 40, next SC challenge: walk into your local SC wearing a Coogi sweater, and report on all the compliments.
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7 years ago
BTW, there is one club here that does something similar. VIP doesn't imply VIP room & private dance, in the case of this club. What it means is you pay some entrance fee (similar to the $150 bottle), you get to go upstairs, where you sit in the VIP section. Amenities include a more laid back atmosphere and a good table, a more attentive waitress, and a hostess. The hostess is there because the rule is, strippers are NOT allowed to approach any customers in the VIP area, it is invitation-only for the strippers; instead, the VIP customer tells the hostess who he is interested in, and hostess fetches her.
None of this gets you to a dance. The VIP area is just a more laidback area where you invite your choice of stripper, and you get a great view of the club. You still need to buy lapdances or VIP dances separately. Might be a decent deal for someone like me and my buddies, who easily spend $150 total on liquor anyway, and tend to want to stick with one girl for the entire trip; might not make sense for others.
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7 years ago
And, lastly, they'll recognize currently-hot brands on sight, nearly all of them. Of course, few middle aged men even know what Yeezys are, much less are wearing them, so none of this is in our wheelhouse. But every one of them will recognize these brands and profile you as $$$
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7 years ago
^^^ BTW, I don't think any of this buys you anything with the stripper, other than you're more likely to get profiled as a good prospect; just answering the question about whether the girls can recognize better clothing. I think strippers are more likely to recognize expensive clothing, than the general public is.
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7 years ago
-->"I always wonder how skilled alot of these girls are at recognizing quality expensive clothing or jewelry."
I would say that just like any other group of people, you'll find strippers who are relatively better or worse at it. However, my experience is that as a group, strippers tend to be more fashion-conscious (sprinkled with a huge dusting of shallowness), and I'm sometimes shocked at what they recognize and remember. I think I've told this story before: years ago I had bought a package of really expensive high-end boxer-briefs (yes, underwear)... my stripper not only noticed and complimented me on it each time, but like the third times, she exclaims, "you always wear the nicest underwear!!!!".
Moral of the story: more of these girls notice and recognize name brands, than you might think. They know everything about women's fashion brands; for men's brands, they're more likely to recognize popular ones. I'm not so sure that, in the dark of a strip club, they can tell an Armani Suit from a Men's Wearhouse suit; but once they realize it's Armani (because you took off the jacket and "accidentally" flashed the label), they'll know what it is
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7 years ago
We have no idea what club you're going to ...if you want our advice on whether VIP is worth it, you need to get the details yourself. And you need to figure out if there's another way to "go upstairs" without having to buy a bottle first -- the waitress will push the option that gets her the biggest tip.
I only do VIPs, I find lap dances useless, but our inveterate LDKers have the opposite POV :)
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7 years ago
I dunno, my gut tells me that you guys who think this is a SW troll are completely delusional ... it's just a fantasy that they're over there thinking about us. lopaw would know better, she had access to the secret female-only forums where they tell their female-only secrets and cry their female-only tears, maybe if she wanders into this thread she'll tell us if she thinks it's possible
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7 years ago
-->" I haven't had my ID scanned...or even had to show my ID... for the better part of a year now. "
At my fave club, I've paid the cover maybe 2 or 3 times in the past 5 years -- only because the regular dayshift bouncer or manager was out, and the door was being managed by a nightshift fill-in. I don't pay the cover, I get away with a little more during dances, I occasionally get comp'ed drinks or get charged bottom-shelf price for top-shelf pours. Honestly, even if I didn't get all those things, I like having someone to talk sports or whatever with for 2 minutes, just as a break.
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7 years ago
Evidently, I'm like those retarded little kids who say hi to everyone on the plane. There is literally nothing but goodness that can happen from management and the bouncers recognizing you. At worst, it's just neutral, but you have someone to talk with about why the 49ers suck so bad while you wait for Bambi to go in the back and do a bump. At best, you get some pretty nice benefits -- including considerable more leeway in the back than your average PL.
IME, you don't have to grease them or blow them or whatever. As soon as I realize I'm going to be a regular at a club, I'll introduce myself and shake the hand of the manager or bouncer when he comes by, engage in sports shit-talking here and there, and if the guy is friendly, have him do a round of shots with us. Next thing you know, I'm finger-banging Bambi, while most guys get yelled at for merely touching her thighs.
I realize many goes who go to SCs are introverts, and I completely understand why an introvert would avoid what they perceive as stressful social interactions (really, no sarcasm there). But if you're NOT an introvert, this takes no fucking effort at all -- just throw him some lockerroom talk here and there, it can actually be a relief from talking with 20 year old girls all fucking day -- and can pay off bigtime.
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7 years ago
I, too, have only had a dancer steer away from the VIP is in a club where extras are expected in the VIP, and she was a non-extras girl
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7 years ago
Well, it would be irony, consider how many of us post troll threads there so often! LOL... I don't know how many times I"m looking through SW for interesting material and boom, there's a troll post I'm certain is one of us. But for all their faults and fantasy worlds, I truly doubt it's the SW girls, I just don't think they think or care enough about us to do it. What I do think is it's just same few guys who already have a zillion alternative troll accounts here, also doing these threads. Or, in the other words, the trollers are far more pathetic than SW girls!
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7 years ago
BJ99-->"You didn't even come over the first couple times she asked bc you were "kinda" busy. Are you even that into her? I can't imagine any of my regulars not jumping all over an invitation like that."
Ya, that's one of the (many) tip-offs the entire story is bullshit. No such thing as that happening. Really!
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7 years ago
Recommended? Try mandatory.
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7 years ago
Well, I was skeptical, but good to hear there was a happy ending!
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7 years ago
Cashman: agree completely that a stripper cutting that kind of deal is hoping for plenty of dancers and/or a tip ... which, if the dances were great, I'd certainly have done.
However, I wonder if BJ99 (and TFP above) doesn't have the right idea: "Are they really 35? Or is that what she said they usually are?" Hanky Panky has a fairly atrocious reputation here among PLs as being a horrible ripoff joint with less-than-attractive lineups... I have a feeling this is what really happened
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7 years ago
lol Good list Danny
On the positive side, first stripper sext might be on its way soon