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6 years ago
-->"Now this dynamic wouldn't be seen at a low mileage or even moderate mileage joint simply because the group culture and/or security generally doesn't allow it."
I know a stripper in Vegas who held to this pattern for a while. You're right about the "2nd source of income", but in this particular case, it wasn't a regular job, but more taking advantage of Vegas's unique opportunities. Very often, she'd find a big spender (often, with his buddies) at the club, get paid $$$$, then wait for the request to hang out with them the next day (pool party) or night (nightclub). She'd tell them, "I'm working, you can buy me out for $1000", and that would be her next night's income. If big-spender had friends, she'd invite some of her stripper friends too, all of whom would kick back some % to her for setting them up (and vice versa when her friends had a customer). Now the price is set, and every time this particular guy comes to Vegas, he's calling her and she's getting her $1000 plus kickbacks.
On other days, she'd freestyle, get hooked up w/ big spenders by nightclub hosts, or get called in by one of her stripper friends to help her with a visiting whale.
So, working 2-4 days per month at most at a high end Vegas SC, using that to build a lucrative side business. Kind of interesting to watch her business take shape when she moved to Vegas. She doesn't work as a stripper at all anymore, the rest of the business is enough (and far more lucrative)
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6 years ago
-->"To me, this experience is more club and dancer dependent than shift dependent"
At my fave club, it's certainly possible to get a stripper to sit with me for 4 hours on Saturday night -- it'll just cost me $900 vs the $200 I pay her now :) At the very least, in higher end strip clubs with hot lineups, "sit for hours for just a few hundo" is very very difficult to find versus that same club on dayshift (yes, with less hot lineups, even if the hottest girl on both shifts are comparable). I think this particular generality holds pretty solid.
Obviously enough, on a club with slow nightshifts (which, by definition, will generally have less hot lineups, since the hot strippers will be at a club where they can make more), I certainly believe you can get dayshift-like treatment. And more to the point, I've gotten dayshift-like treatment at the beginning of the night -- 7pm-11pm -- even at pretty hot clubs, although a bit inconsistently. After the clubs heat up at midnight, all bets are off in those clubs, alas.
So, yes, slow clubs and early-nightshift are possibilities for getting dayshift-like treatment from the strippers, but more reliable to get this during dayshift, plus dayshift has more lackadaisical touching-level enforcement, and much easier to get things wired up with management & staff to improve even on that, IME
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6 years ago
I like to find out where she's worked before, she usually asks about how often I'm at the club. I let this initial profiling of each other go on for maybe 30-60 seconds tops, then I very quickly move to fun topics: strip clubs, alcohol, strippers, partying. If she's new to the club or area, I usually have funny stories about whatever club we're in.
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6 years ago
People who have parody accounts
I like it, good clique.
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6 years ago
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Jascoimr.wonderful to single moms and college age girls...
^^^ I admire the poor decision making that they often represent
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6 years ago
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Jascoimr.wonderful to single moms and college age girls...
-->"Different strokes for different folks, man. Some guys actually dig the tattoos and piercings. Doesn't seem to be many of those types on this site, but they do exist. "
Well sure, they exist. But men who are successful enough that they have extra money to spend on strippers, AND like tats and piercings, are a small minority. Not just here. That's just a reality.
Obviously enough, the strippers who get tats and piercings, don't give a fuck about what customers think or how it might affect their income -- these tend to be either deeply personal choices that are more important than revenue impact, or frivilous (and probably drunk) choices with no thought at all to revenue impact. Either way, I don't think we PLs factor very much into most strippers' decision tree on this :)
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6 years ago
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two_bitsIf there was a problem Yo, I'll solve it, Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it, nice spice baby, nice spice baby
Like you, I am a fashionable back-braced leader of men and world famous cocksman, whose job affords him the liberty of occasionally check the interwebs, when between meetings and projects
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6 years ago
Not bad... some of the advice is really "here's what works for me, personally, but might not work for you", as opposed to "here's the universally right thing to do to increase your chances of having fun"... It's good to know which is which
Here's my "beginner speech" from which your #3 first sentence is drawn https://www.tuscl.net/article.php?id=49689
Other comments:
-->"The best way to do this is to set aside the cash you’re willing to spend and only take that money with you into the club. "
That's a good technique if you know in advance you lack self-control. My buddies and I have been going to the club, getting buzzed if not drunk, and there have not been many over-spending incidents. Meanwhile, I like having my wallet with me in case we all decide to pile out and hit dinner, etc. In short, this is a find tip for those who lack self control (which, admittedly, is a high % of guys once they're around naked girls and booze), but more of an optional tip -- following it would reduce my good time, not increase it. I'd just re-word it to reflect "optional tip for those who lack self control", not universal advice
-->"If you’re going to sit at the stage when a dancer is doing a routine you should tip a couple of bucks throughout the routine"
This, on the other hand, should be stated more strongly. Don't sit at the stage unless you're tipping, dummy.
-->"If you’re going to order a drink at the bar or from a waitress give them a $1-$2 tip. "
Or rather, tip at least as well as if you were in a bar. I'm not going to tip just $2 on a $50 round. Just tip appropriately.
-->" If you’re getting multiple good dances from a girl either on the floor or the vip area I usually do a small tip around 1/4 or 1/2 of a regular dance if the dances are really good the most I’ll ever tip is the amount of an extra dance. "
So, here's where I'm way at odds. My personal philosophy is: no, don't fucking tip for her just doing her job. I tip for extraordinary service only.
-->"So what do you guys think? For the next intermediate part I was thinking that the focus should be on getting the “most out of your visits”
The Shazam thing seems a bit overboard. I can't imagine dealing with this much overhead just to get a lapdance. Maybe just describe common dancer shenanigans like overcounting, and ways to deal
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6 years ago
I would've done the same thing, just enjoy it for whatever it is
While I try not to cultivate an "I'm your safe space" vibe (as I said in another thread, I'm insidious lol), if elected, I am happy to serve for a short period.
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6 years ago
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ToyChaserI just make them raise their right-hand and swear they are clean - then its all BBJ's & FS
Okay, I have heard your arguments, and grant you all my permission to post further in this thread. I'm watching, Wazowski, always watching :) lol
Ya other than failure to render services, I have no interest in fucking over my OTCs. Even if I did one-and-done OTCs, like some of you, I have no interest. But usually a stripper is at least my CF by the time I OTC with her, so each OTC is an investment in long term delights
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6 years ago
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ToyChaserI just make them raise their right-hand and swear they are clean - then its all BBJ's & FS
TrollWarnBot doing its job. Rest of you do your jobs and stop responding or we'll keep getting treated to this stuff
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6 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
The last thing we need around here is shailynn running around with a rock hard dick
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6 years ago
-->"Any benefit in going more often or to being a fresh face in a new place ?"
My SC frequency changes. I've gone as often as 6 times a month, to once every 3 months. But no matter what, I'd say I spend the vast majority of the time at my fave club. Ginormous benefit to going to the same club, no benefit to being a fresh face (unless you're relentlessly after variety)
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6 years ago
Ish: Yeah, same membership, so fucking weird and random.
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6 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Ish has good suggestions. Of those, what works for me are: Don't eat a giant meal, and especially no shit processed food, for lunch. And take an early afternoon walk or other light exercise
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6 years ago
Also, 4-hour-appointment clica. There's a lot of us.
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6 years ago
If anyone wants to join me in the "Enjoy sticking your finger in her asshole" clique, please sign below. I'm appointing myself presidente for life of this clica
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6 years ago
No, the one in the middle is a butterface.
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6 years ago
No, the one in the middle is a butterface.
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6 years ago
nicespice: *stalks regular's social media and writes down interests*
Nicespice: Hi Morty! Hey, I was just on my phone ordering some more condoms, from my favorite place, Extra Small Condom Company
Mortimer: Hey, that's MY favorite place, too!
Nicespice: Ha ha! Also, I love cuck porn
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6 years ago
Shadow: every little bit of info helps. I can give real-life example of a first name being the difference between finding her social media or not, but also, you can just take my word for it
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6 years ago
Well, valet parking is one of the few ways SF strip clubs don't fuck us over. No clubs here have their own parking lots. I avoid even the public garages that require valet parking, I always pick park-myself options.
In the San Jose area, the clubs do have their own parking lots, but none have valet parking or charge for parking, although I don't go often enough to these clubs to know for sure that's still the case
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6 years ago
Huh... funny trend.
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6 years ago
A lot of the SW girls claim to have fake "real" names. I can imagine it's a good sales technique with non-PLs ... gives the customer the sense that they're real friends or whatever
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6 years ago
After running a text analyzer on the forum, it turns out that the only 4 real people on tuscl are Juice, gawker (you can't make that stuff up), me, and San Jose Guy. So I don't know how many cliques there can be