It is possible to get the dayshift experience on a weekend night
s275ironman
Detroit
Since I work during the week, I find Friday and Saturday nights to be the best time for me to go to a club. At the club I’ve been frequenting, I always see girls sit with customers for long lengths of time just chatting and drinking. 3 months ago at this club, I hung out with a dancer for a couple of hours. We enjoyed a nice conversation over a couple of drinks, then went to the VIP, and afterwards she hung out with me the rest of the night until she had to go back on stage. Since then, I had not seen this dancer again until last Friday, and even though it has been 3 months since I had seen her, she remembered me, and she hung out with me again. Once again, we spent a couple hours together.
I guess my whole point is, it is possible to get the comparable day shift experience on a weekend night, but I assume a lot of it depends on the club itself. Every visit I’ve had to this club has been on a Friday night, and I always see girls spend hours sitting with the same customers.
With that being said, I will admit I did enjoy spending a couple hours hanging out with one dancer, especially since we were able to establish a connection and have lengthy meaningful conversations, in addition to main reason why I go to this club to begin with. I guess I should consider myself lucky to have a club close by that offers this type of experience during the night shift.
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Wait a second, that's right, you've got the whole TUSCL day shift clique vs. the night shift clique...I can't believe me missed that one.
Someone alert @nicespice, these need to be added to the TUSCL Cliques list, stat!
To me, this experience is more club and dancer dependent than shift dependent. At one of my favorite clubs, the night shift (non weekend) often feels slower than the day shift and even on many weekends, the dancer/PL body counts double or more but the busyness/activity is almost the same as other days.
There is one club near me where the day and night shift is so different, you would think you were in a different club if it weren't for the, well, physical club. During the night, you have to pay for valet and cover fees. Girls are dancing on stage to a DJ and the dances are $30 each for a 3 minute song often watched by a bouncer/counter. During the day, no valet, no cover. No DJ, so the music is just randomly played through the speakers from some music player. Dances are $20 for a full length song. The girls (as long as they came during club opening) don't have to pay for dances (they pay $10 at night) so the counter doesn't even bother watching them (unless they came to the club late and are charged $5 for each dance). The night experience is easily about twice as expensive for less privacy and mileage.
I don't know of any other club where the two experiences are so different but i would never go to that club in the night ever again and it has nothing to do with how much time the dancers spend with me on the floor; they spend a lot of time with customers regardless of shift as they are slow most days.
When I first started SCing in my early-30s I found it odd to SC on dayshift, these days in my late-40s I find it odd to SC on nightshift - I assume part of it is age and part of it is just I've gotten used-to and just prefer the dayshift vibe - also on dayshift I feel I have more energy to enjoy the club vs at the end of a long day.
At my fave club, it's certainly possible to get a stripper to sit with me for 4 hours on Saturday night -- it'll just cost me $900 vs the $200 I pay her now :) At the very least, in higher end strip clubs with hot lineups, "sit for hours for just a few hundo" is very very difficult to find versus that same club on dayshift (yes, with less hot lineups, even if the hottest girl on both shifts are comparable). I think this particular generality holds pretty solid.
Obviously enough, on a club with slow nightshifts (which, by definition, will generally have less hot lineups, since the hot strippers will be at a club where they can make more), I certainly believe you can get dayshift-like treatment. And more to the point, I've gotten dayshift-like treatment at the beginning of the night -- 7pm-11pm -- even at pretty hot clubs, although a bit inconsistently. After the clubs heat up at midnight, all bets are off in those clubs, alas.
So, yes, slow clubs and early-nightshift are possibilities for getting dayshift-like treatment from the strippers, but more reliable to get this during dayshift, plus dayshift has more lackadaisical touching-level enforcement, and much easier to get things wired up with management & staff to improve even on that, IME
the main reason i usually avoid clubs on a friday or saturday night......is so that i can get a dancer to sit with me for a while before we even go back and do dances/VIP. its much easier to accomplish that if the clubs isn't packed with people.
Also, I find that night shift girls generally drink more and are otherwise more likely to be less inhibited when they have the cover of night on their side. It doesn't hurt that their kids are in already in bed and their schedules are a little more open-ended. I often arrive at the club during Happy Hour, when the dayshift is in its last hour, and it seems that many of those girls have family and other obligations to get home to.
I find that, in my local area and in many others, Monday and Tuesday nights offer a relaxed enough to allow for dedicated time with some of the girls. I generally avoid weekend clubbing due to crowds, increased LE checkpoints, etc.
Okay, to ask an honest question, but throw a little snark as well :) My impression (from reading) is that Detroit is basically a "high volume 6s" club experience. It's the 7.5 and better (hopefully much better) that I'm hoping to get this treatment from
@Subraman - Really, a 7.5? I am sorely disappointed in you.
As of now, you are out of the clique!
If a dancer knows there’s an opportunity to increase her earnings - by seeing the club is busy - I’d expect her to try and hustle.
If you read my reviews, you’ll see that I generally consider 6s or below unacceptable, and I won’t spend money on them. Some clubs, like Criket, have only 1-2 dancers that I would even consider to be 7.5+, and I only go to see them. I frequent FC because it’s the only club I’ve been to that consistently has a number of 7+ dancers to choose from (on my scale).
But you are correct that I get the best experience from dancers that are not always my top choice physically. A 19-yo blond spinner probably has too much earning potential to spend most of a Saturday night in my booth. If a day shift experience is my goal, I’m going to get more value out of befriending a 7 with a great personality than always chasing after the perfect ass.
One of the differences here is, there might not be a lot of gorgeous blonde spinners during dayshift, but when there is one, chances are she'll sit with my all afternoon, just like the others. Once she moves to nightshift, that's not happening anymore, I won't even get grandfathered in lol... I've run into 9+s on dayshift, we're not drowning in them like nightshift, but it happens
As for the comment about “high volume 6’s”, I avoid going to those clubs. The club I go to features a lot of high volume 7.5’s. :)
@TacoBob, Your favorite club is also my favorite club. I have never spent more than $400 total on a single visit there, but on both the visits referenced in my original post, the amount spent on just the dancer was right around $325 both times. This number includes drinks I bought her, what we agreed on for VIP activity, plus a tip because I felt she deserved it. It was a nice bonus to get 1.5-2 hours of her time as a result. IME, a lot of girls will bail on me after we’re done in the VIP, but not this girl. Both times she stuck around and hung out with me after we finished business in the VIP.
@Constantine, the Flight Club has lots of really hot dancers on Friday and Saturday nights.
As I mentioned, I have on occasion bought out a dancer’s entire 7-hour shift on a weekend night. But that’s usually been $400-$500 (not including drinks or food), and these are dancers I have extensive pre-existing relationships with. It’s also much nicer when those things happen organically, as they did for you!
Right now I’m thinking of one week night at FC or BTs and one weekend night at FC.
$1000 budget isn’t enough past a couple of nights if I want to get nasty
I think someone else already said it, but if dayshift is just like night, then it’s either a really good club or a really shitty one
I find I can pull this because I'm easy to talk to, not too demanding, so that makes me somewhat more attractive than working the room or lap hoping. Some dancers like the low hustle hustle same as us PLs and just happen to be working week end nights and aren't looking to party or bank. So it does happen.
I also like that it's not a guaranteed thing. It may or may not happen. It makes it more organic.
I just start talking to a dancer. Sometimes she stays, sometimes she won't. Sometimes I'll toss her a few bucks for convo, if I have to, depending on her body language she's showing me. Other times she'll make a point to tell me after a while that she's the low-hustle girl, or you can just tell that's how she is tonight by reading her. It's also possible, she's trying to suss out if I'm a high roller or not, because if I carry myself well, and I'm an unknown, she won't know until I start spending (according to @twentyfive).