It is possible to get the dayshift experience on a weekend night

"This is not meant to be another “day shift vs night shift” debate."

Wait a second, that's right, you've got the whole TUSCL day shift clique vs. the night shift clique...I can't believe me missed that one.

Someone alert @nicespice, these need to be added to the TUSCL Cliques list, stat!

It's certainly possible to get the type of experience you described in the night shift. I'm just not sure what you described is why TUSCLers specifically go during the day, especially ones that don't have a lot of time. At many night shifts i have seen many a PL and dancer just sit for a long time together. Heck, i've even had dancers sit with me much longer that i would have liked without ever asking me for a dance (often only leaving after they were called to stage) as well as dancers that stay glued to me after i came out of the chump station.

To me, this experience is more club and dancer dependent than shift dependent. At one of my favorite clubs, the night shift (non weekend) often feels slower than the day shift and even on many weekends, the dancer/PL body counts double or more but the busyness/activity is almost the same as other days.

There is one club near me where the day and night shift is so different, you would think you were in a different club if it weren't for the, well, physical club. During the night, you have to pay for valet and cover fees. Girls are dancing on stage to a DJ and the dances are $30 each for a 3 minute song often watched by a bouncer/counter. During the day, no valet, no cover. No DJ, so the music is just randomly played through the speakers from some music player. Dances are $20 for a full length song. The girls (as long as they came during club opening) don't have to pay for dances (they pay $10 at night) so the counter doesn't even bother watching them (unless they came to the club late and are charged $5 for each dance). The night experience is easily about twice as expensive for less privacy and mileage.

I don't know of any other club where the two experiences are so different but i would never go to that club in the night ever again and it has nothing to do with how much time the dancers spend with me on the floor; they spend a lot of time with customers regardless of shift as they are slow most days.

Many of the more popular clubs tend to be madhouses on weekend eves, but some are still fairly laidback.

When I first started SCing in my early-30s I found it odd to SC on dayshift, these days in my late-40s I find it odd to SC on nightshift - I assume part of it is age and part of it is just I've gotten used-to and just prefer the dayshift vibe - also on dayshift I feel I have more energy to enjoy the club vs at the end of a long day.

I tend to mostly hit dives and the clientele at night can at times get on my older nerves and I have much less patience for crowds or asshole(ey) behavior

-->"To me, this experience is more club and dancer dependent than shift dependent"

At my fave club, it's certainly possible to get a stripper to sit with me for 4 hours on Saturday night -- it'll just cost me $900 vs the $200 I pay her now :) At the very least, in higher end strip clubs with hot lineups, "sit for hours for just a few hundo" is very very difficult to find versus that same club on dayshift (yes, with less hot lineups, even if the hottest girl on both shifts are comparable). I think this particular generality holds pretty solid.

Obviously enough, on a club with slow nightshifts (which, by definition, will generally have less hot lineups, since the hot strippers will be at a club where they can make more), I certainly believe you can get dayshift-like treatment. And more to the point, I've gotten dayshift-like treatment at the beginning of the night -- 7pm-11pm -- even at pretty hot clubs, although a bit inconsistently. After the clubs heat up at midnight, all bets are off in those clubs, alas.

So, yes, slow clubs and early-nightshift are possibilities for getting dayshift-like treatment from the strippers, but more reliable to get this during dayshift, plus dayshift has more lackadaisical touching-level enforcement, and much easier to get things wired up with management & staff to improve even on that, IME

yes, its possible, but definitely less likely.

the main reason i usually avoid clubs on a friday or saturday night......is so that i can get a dancer to sit with me for a while before we even go back and do dances/VIP. its much easier to accomplish that if the clubs isn't packed with people.

I'm around Papi's age, but I'm a long time away from sitting around in a club during daylight hours. Maybe that will change when I'm old enough to retire, shameless enough to wear gym shorts to a club and no longer able to booze up for health or other reasons. But right now I have trouble imagining walking out of a club with a buzz on, the sun still glaring in my face and having to work through traffic to get to my next stop.

Also, I find that night shift girls generally drink more and are otherwise more likely to be less inhibited when they have the cover of night on their side. It doesn't hurt that their kids are in already in bed and their schedules are a little more open-ended. I often arrive at the club during Happy Hour, when the dayshift is in its last hour, and it seems that many of those girls have family and other obligations to get home to.

I find that, in my local area and in many others, Monday and Tuesday nights offer a relaxed enough to allow for dedicated time with some of the girls. I generally avoid weekend clubbing due to crowds, increased LE checkpoints, etc.

@rick - based on your predatory expertise, how does dayshift vs nightshift compare in terms of % of addict dancers?

No idea two_shits, but if you and I are ever in a club at the same time, the addicts are all yours. ;)

I think it’s club dependent. Sometimes smaller and more rural clubs seem to have a day shift atmosphere at night. Of course the talent always varies but, generally, a slower club doesn’t have the hottest strippers. Also, if a club is such that a girl is going to sit with you for a long time but not a lot of dollars, the club itself might not be all that great.

Does Flight Club and BTs have hotter girls on weekends?

I have a few dancers around Detroit that will happily give me the day shift experience on a weekend night, but that’s part of the benefit of being a regular. Definitely easier to get before midnight, though. And if I want to guarantee exclusive attention all night, I’ll need to spend at least $400-500.

And ruin your chances for OTC, rick? I could never do that to a fellow TUSCLer.

-->"I have a few dancers around Detroit that will happily give me the day shift experience on a weekend night,"

Okay, to ask an honest question, but throw a little snark as well :) My impression (from reading) is that Detroit is basically a "high volume 6s" club experience. It's the 7.5 and better (hopefully much better) that I'm hoping to get this treatment from

Thanks man, but if you remember my various posts, I need plausible deniability in order to be ok with taking out an addict. So maybe we can divvy them up. I'll take the alcoholics and coke heads - in other words, the ones who tend to hide it better - and you can have the heroin addicts, meth heads and pill poppers. ☺

"It's the 7.5 and better (hopefully much better) that I'm hoping to get this treatment from"

@Subraman - Really, a 7.5? I am sorely disappointed in you.

As of now, you are out of the clique!

In my view - it’s dependent on the club and whether the club is busy (during night shifts on weekends). If there is a crowd - I’d expect dancers to go into hustle mode - to maximize earnings.

If a dancer knows there’s an opportunity to increase her earnings - by seeing the club is busy - I’d expect her to try and hustle.

Fuck all you guys, you got me kicked out of the clique

@Subraman - It’s a fair question, and complicated by the fact that everyone’s ratings are a little different.

If you read my reviews, you’ll see that I generally consider 6s or below unacceptable, and I won’t spend money on them. Some clubs, like Criket, have only 1-2 dancers that I would even consider to be 7.5+, and I only go to see them. I frequent FC because it’s the only club I’ve been to that consistently has a number of 7+ dancers to choose from (on my scale).

But you are correct that I get the best experience from dancers that are not always my top choice physically. A 19-yo blond spinner probably has too much earning potential to spend most of a Saturday night in my booth. If a day shift experience is my goal, I’m going to get more value out of befriending a 7 with a great personality than always chasing after the perfect ass.

One additional note: I’ve been told that night shifts, especially weekeends, tend to have more “party girls” who are trying to have fun while they work. So another strategy for getting sustained attention from the 8+ crowd is to order bottle service and a hookah and make your booth the fun place to be. I’ve done it once, but that’s not really my vibe. I’m more into GFE than balling out.

I don't do bottle service, but even during the day, I keep a steady stream of drinks -- often mandating shots rather than mixed drinks -- to the table. I suppose to some extent, I'm optimizing for day-drinking party girls, who are likely the ones who'll make poor business decisions (like hanging out with me all afternoon for $200).

One of the differences here is, there might not be a lot of gorgeous blonde spinners during dayshift, but when there is one, chances are she'll sit with my all afternoon, just like the others. Once she moves to nightshift, that's not happening anymore, I won't even get grandfathered in lol... I've run into 9+s on dayshift, we're not drowning in them like nightshift, but it happens

@Subraman. I definitely agree with your assessment here. I don’t try to lockdown one stripper for several hours, but in order to have one hang out with me for 4 hours, a cost of $900 sounds about right. I also agree that if you do got at night, early during the night shift is the best time for this type of experience. I usually get to the club around 9:00 and rarely ever stay past midnight.

As for the comment about “high volume 6’s”, I avoid going to those clubs. The club I go to features a lot of high volume 7.5’s. :)

@TacoBob, Your favorite club is also my favorite club. I have never spent more than $400 total on a single visit there, but on both the visits referenced in my original post, the amount spent on just the dancer was right around $325 both times. This number includes drinks I bought her, what we agreed on for VIP activity, plus a tip because I felt she deserved it. It was a nice bonus to get 1.5-2 hours of her time as a result. IME, a lot of girls will bail on me after we’re done in the VIP, but not this girl. Both times she stuck around and hung out with me after we finished business in the VIP.

@Constantine, the Flight Club has lots of really hot dancers on Friday and Saturday nights.

@s275ironman - $325 for drinks, dances, and 2 hours of company is good value at FC. It sounds like this dancer enjoys your company as much as you enjoy hers.

As I mentioned, I have on occasion bought out a dancer’s entire 7-hour shift on a weekend night. But that’s usually been $400-$500 (not including drinks or food), and these are dancers I have extensive pre-existing relationships with. It’s also much nicer when those things happen organically, as they did for you!

At the majority of clubs in NJ the dayshift talent is usually reserved for women in thier late 30s and 40s with the younger girls coming at night. However, Id say 30% of the clubs provide the direct opposite. The A list comes in during the day to cater to guys with deep pockets. They make most of thier money through extras and VIP rooms. At these clubs the older women/ B list comes in to cater to guys who want a low mileage LD. If you come in at 8 pm at these places you can talk to a MiLF for hours.

My trip got extended in Detroit I’ll be there Wednesday to Sunday morning.

Right now I’m thinking of one week night at FC or BTs and one weekend night at FC.

$1000 budget isn’t enough past a couple of nights if I want to get nasty

“Someone alert @nicespice, these need to be added to the TUSCL Cliques list, stat!”

I think someone else already said it, but if dayshift is just like night, then it’s either a really good club or a really shitty one

If you want the day shift experience at night, go early in the week (Tues or Weds) when it is slow.

If you want the day shift experience at night, go early in the week (Tues or Weds) when it is slow.

Well if you find a club that’s open when a hurricane is bearing down if any of the girls showed up for the shift it is possible.

It depends. I can happen. Money can grease it, but by low ROI I'm assuming you aren't willing to pay MORE just because it's FRI/Sat night, correct? It's certainly makes it easier if you pay more. but you don't have to. I don't.

I find I can pull this because I'm easy to talk to, not too demanding, so that makes me somewhat more attractive than working the room or lap hoping. Some dancers like the low hustle hustle same as us PLs and just happen to be working week end nights and aren't looking to party or bank. So it does happen.

I also like that it's not a guaranteed thing. It may or may not happen. It makes it more organic.

@dominic77 - aren't you the guy that goes once a year?

That's about what I average. 32 visits in 22 years. I did go twice this year. But nothing the year before for like 18 months.

Make that 34 visits, sorry. $4750 lifetime spend.

I just start talking to a dancer. Sometimes she stays, sometimes she won't. Sometimes I'll toss her a few bucks for convo, if I have to, depending on her body language she's showing me. Other times she'll make a point to tell me after a while that she's the low-hustle girl, or you can just tell that's how she is tonight by reading her. It's also possible, she's trying to suss out if I'm a high roller or not, because if I carry myself well, and I'm an unknown, she won't know until I start spending (according to @twentyfive).

Locally 8 to 10pm functions more like day shift in terms of dancer attention. But the bouncer actually dies checks unlike the day.