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14 years ago
Isn't Phoenix the hometown of Rebecca Avalon that gal who is pushing her "Dancer's Wealth" course? I am not surprised many of the Phoenix clubs may not be extras friendly but she would not survive in Houston.
With the competetion from backpage.com escorts, I frankly wonder how strippers who don't do extras make it.
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14 years ago
I think keeping it under $1000 for the month at $855 is good. You never know whats down the road. As a matter of fact I have decided to reduce my spending to around that level as YTD I have gone over $10 K which exceeds the $1250 monthly budget I have set for myself. I am continually in a battle between money for pussy vs money to invest in my rare coin business (my fulltime occupation once I take early Social). It is starting to stress me out as I look back at the last coupla years and think I would have quite a bit more invested in my rare coin business if I just could have reduced spending 25-40%. My ATF for around 50 otc sessions YTD averages $150 a throw. Being a frequent flyer keeps POP down. She is married, but really good. The key to controlling cost is staying from expensive club visits (spending big $ on girls who don't fuck or charge big $ for extras), concentrating on atf (frequent flyer discounts), and not caving into the gal who wants a lot of sessions during week, draining your wallet more than you would like.
Don't some gal sucker you into trying to emulate some high roller. Now if you have $500 K just sitting there doing nothing then not to worry. I have another hobby (Numismatics) which finances a large percentage of my strip clubbing. I would like to get it to where it finances 100%. As a coin dealer, nowadays I am not a buyer unless its a steal and I sell at retail only. Circa 1990 I was investing in it like crazy.
Don't worry about your spending unless its getting on the wife's radar screen or your having to take credit from escorts (I have had them offer this LOL). We never know how long we have left to be sexually active or live, etc.
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14 years ago
I do most of any SC fun during week as I do not like the crowded weekend, many drunks scenario. Weekends are family and recharge time.
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14 years ago
Frankly, unless the girl is just gross, I try not to think about it. One would have to be really naieve or unrealistic to simply assume the extras gal he is doing itc has not done anyone before him unless its right after the club opens. I believe the one I have been seeing otc the last 2 years (married) is less active with multiple partners than most. She does insist on condom use which I practice always anyhow. Most of my otc sessions with her are nooners sometimes mid morning around 10am. Many of the itc sessions were right after the club opened so I had to have been first if indeed she did any others that day. She is now at another club which they would have to pay $120 CR to get any itc. I was suspicious about a session 2 weeks ago when she delayed the meeting time from 4:30 pm (right after her getting off from the club) to 6pm. Did a last minute club customer get her otc before me?
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14 years ago
Like Rick I am a serial cheater but so is my OTC Fav. She got married back in April and it does not keep her from stripping or seeing me.
Strippers don't care about age, marital status, etc. They will never pressure you to leave a wife or serve you with some stupid ultimatum they won't fuck you until you separate from your marriage. In addition they are not going around telling everyone at work about your drama.
Rick I agree with you side (non stripper) GF can be more hassle than they are worth. When I look on back on that period I think what a bunch of foolishness, I could have been seeing strippers!
When I think of all the fun I have had with strippers vs the frustration with gals years ago at work I messed with the strippers win out no contest. Civilian gals know they are no competetion for strippers. Strippers are young, hot, uninhibited and like to fuck. Where else but a SC can you have a date with a young hot gal who comes after you already half naked? In a singles bar with some stuck up bitch where men outnumber the women? Don't think so.
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14 years ago
Last Friday according to dancer atf was bikini day. We had met for lunch day before for 5 lappers and lunch but no sex. At this club she dancing at (she got fired from home one where I am ViP and could do her in vip) it is $120 to go to upstairs CR and she says anything goes there. Since I have been fucking her for $125 avg I won't pay that just to go up there. We met at motel Friday around 9am. She came out in bik and she did a dance as foreplay. Just seeing her in bik made me really hard and seeing how my hardon she decided during second dance lets go to the bed. After some HJ foreplay / tease (this turns her on she says) she put condom on me and then got on top, leaning forward and fucked me (she likes it like that). It was relaxing and I got off really good with her. She smiled and kissed me and commented on how good week it had been. She got $100 for the sex and $20 for two dances. Been seeing her 2 years. Got her again this last Tue (after she got off work at club) at $120 and Friday she wants to meet for bik day.
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14 years ago
Now I know why I give them a fake business card.
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14 years ago
Unvelievable they are paying that for a dance. I had pussy today with dancer from Gold Cup after she got off work for $120. Been seeing her 2 yr so that helps bring POP down.
When you spend a lot on dances, that takes away money you can use to get pussy.
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14 years ago
I see that Dougster can be annoying. My take on him is he can't afford much more than a couple of dances.
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14 years ago
Jessica (my photos) called me today around 6pm. She had been arressted for DWI and her car is in impound again (about 3rd time this year). She offered to meet me for sex for $60 tomorrow around noon. Told me she dancing at Fantaza Plaza North. I probably will take her up on it but spent visited P at Gold Cup for lunch Thur spent $100 on dances then banged her this morning for $100 at motel (Bikini Friday).
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14 years ago
In terms of the question posed by the op - yes. Women gravitate towards money and while their reasons for multiple sex partners may involve variety like men it is primarily the collection of more money being the root of their motivation. Women's sexuality has been very much suppressed by our society until recently and in some cultures is still taboo due to religionist systems coupled with mind control. The primary root of this is the fact a woman can do many more men in one day than a man could do women. The large number of married stripper whores I have encountered is a testiment to this fact. Their whoring is not necessarily a desire to reproduce but can be a desire to improve their genes as their S/O's are mainly the low end of the gene pool themselves, especially in IQ. The inferior IQ and earning potential of many of these Stripper Mates fuels Strippers motivation to do whoring in order to provide family income, elevate their status in life, and enjoy a variety of different dick. Furthermore they are excited sexually due to the instictive desire (they may not be aware of) they may improve the genetics of offspring due to these "paid" sexual encounters. While many stripper S/O's are the bottom of the IQ and gene pool the Strippers keep these relationships bc they can control these men and then go and do their whoring.
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14 years ago
I haven't been much worried about it. Houston area SC's that are extras clubs have given me enough to handle no need to find it out of town. The prob has not been finding pussy in a SC, but which gals to do. Its just a matter of money and YMMV.
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14 years ago
A whore does some for free and charges others. A prostitute charges everybody. The GF who gives it to her SO for free is a whore if she charges others for sex. Joe SC customer is doing a dancer about 2x week at motel and sometimes itc. Joe's contributions pay her mortgage. This same dancer is married and does her husband for free and describes him on her FB page as her soulmate. She may have 1 or a couple more clients than Joe but not as much action as a Backpage.com escort who would be more towards the prostitute range. The married dancer is a whore. Her husband is essentially a cuckhold. He is not aware his wife is a whore.
I have encountered many dancers who are whores and find it curious how some of the bitches on Strippers Web run dancers who do extras. They are all sex workers so wtf difference does it make?
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14 years ago
One thing I might add: Even if I were happily to right gal I still would want to go out to SC's plus bang them. Its like once a player, always a player.
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14 years ago
Wife stopped having sex years ago due to female issues / menopause. She also created atmosphere of emotional drama with kids but bc of lots of business travel, long commutes, 3 kids I was basically numb to taking divorce action. Wanted to do it 4 years ago but impending downtime (consulting) threw a wrench into plans. We get along fine and I think her main hobby is grandkids. I keep my SC hobby under the radar. I have found day shift gals a lot more open to itc or otc fun.
Consequently I do strippers. In retrospect, I think they put out better than she did even when we were first married bc I recall her giving me some feminist BS about refusing to model for me and the strippers I have seen delight in modeling for me - go figure. Plus the sex with strippers for most part is better especially if they like to fuck. I wish I had seen strippers and hookers sooner in life.
So my sex with strippers has nothing to do with wife. They give me all I want and Houston is a SC mecca of young gals excited to strip / do itc or otc sex. My only problem is staying in a budget and trying to concentrate on this one gal (I mean she is a keeper!) but there has been a lot of action with others especially itc at the club where I am VIP.
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14 years ago
I am all for keeping the thuggies out of SC's via dress codes, bouncers, not playing their low iq music. They are not paying customers like us and have no place in the SC. Their whole reason for being there is to sell drugs, cause trouble, or see what girl they can hit on (for free). They're too stupid and lazy to hold a real job so of course they have lots of time to hang out at the SC. The illegals are even worse as they feel America is their doormat. Truth be known, thuggies are the kinda guys dancers like to get pg with (retro natural selection?) and support. Then they come to us whining about how they are about to be evicted.
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14 years ago
Sin - you are correct, they seem to always pick losers. What is so outrageous is them calling paying customers PL's.
As far as strippers leading you on - if the gal fucks she will meet you somewhere (if not do you itc) no BS about taking her shopping first, buying her shoes, or some excuse. When the BS starts, its probably time to dump them. Case in point: I picked up a stripper at the end of her shift at Allstars after she previously agreed to have me take her home for $200 sex session. On way she said wanted me to take her shopping (a scam), I told her no and she got pissed. Thought she was gonna throw fit in car. Gave me some kinda crap about how all I care about is pussy, ROB crap. After an awkward rest of trip, dropped her at her apartment and left.
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14 years ago
I have condoms on me always. Being VIP at an extras club means if I take a girl upstairs (VIP) means sex will be on the menu. There are times I went just to chill and ended upstairs doing a gal in VIP. When your in a dark VIP or CR room and a gal that likes to fuck is playing with Mr H, then things can heat up.
My last visit there, I ended up doing a blond hispanic gal from miami for $200; completely unplanned. She was a really great fuck and cried out loudly. Then the next coupla days did my reg gal at $125 twice; it was great. Then on a Sat when wife out a gal who danced at allstars (Jessica in my photos) called me to meet her at motel for $90. She was in bik by pool (her mother was nearby) when I arrived, took her in room and fucked her. She is a backpage call girl now. So $540, 3 different girls, 4 total sessions. When it gets like this it disturbed with the spending. Last coupla weeks been doing reg otc gal at $125 session 2x week. Blonde Miami gal has been emailing me to come c her at club. Hopefully I can get this under control.
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14 years ago
I prefer the SC route. There is no shortage of girls who fuck at the club where I am VIP. Many escorts are on drugs / fucked out. At SC you can take your time picking out gal to party with. Married Stripper I have been doing 2 yr has been letting me bang her otc at $125 a thow.
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14 years ago
$130 for 15 minutes of dances? Sounds like a rip if you did not get pussy.
I am getting pussy 2x week from stripper for $125 a throw otc. Been doing her 2 years so that helps get price down.
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14 years ago
A lot of these thugs in SC's are illegals that are shacked up with a dancer or waitress. These little turd balls come into the club for free food and can cause trouble. They don't have any money and are pissed off their girl is a whore so watch out.
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14 years ago
I think the drug dealing is the most likely explanation.
Other times its because they are all planning a party later on. A sorta strippers get together with friends which turns into a drugs / sex party. Sorry, customers aren't welcome but their biker, gangster, drug dealer friends are along with the BF or husband they are supporting.
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14 years ago
While you sound like a RIL, I have to wonder why you even want to bother with worrying about her. Just go back to the club and find the fun you want whether she approaches you or someone else.
All it takes to have fun in a SC is money. Don't let a girl keep you from enjoying your fav SC. I am sure there are other gals there who knew you spent money and they will try to grab you first.
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14 years ago
We are paying customers not some object for sadistic attack. You should make them cut it out if lapper is uncomfy. I for one hate fat gals that like to bounce on my dick during lappers. They should not be doing anything to a guys balls unless it is gentle rubbing during foreplay / sex.
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14 years ago
For the most part strippers have screwed up childhoods or come from single parent families, often being raised by their grandparents bc mom had a dope problem, was a stripper, hooker, or both. In many instances their Dad might be somoeone like a SC DJ who banged a lotta gals getting many of them knocked up. Usually he is absent from the scene until probably resurfacing in their teens.
When I am seeing a stripper, it bothers me to see her more excited about dope than seeing her kids which usually live with their father or grandparents (who has custody).
The Stripper I am currently seeing was raised mainly by her grandparents. Her mother was impregnated by a SC DJ while a young stripper.