Is every woman a whore?

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bendover656
I find it hilarious how dancers always think another dancer who does more is a whore. Every dancer has their own limits for what they will do in a club (though that might vary depending on what bills are due). But if another dancer does more then she's a "whore" in her eyes.

Often, I'll be talking to a dancer who gives me intimate dances and she'll comment on how another dancer is "dirty". That might be because she does slightly more and/or does it more often, in her eyes. Now I'm thinking of putting this other dancer on my "to do" list and my opinion of this dancer just went up! To me, I'm OK with the concept of "whores" as long as we're being honest about it.

First of all, if one is a dancer most women think she's a whore already just for working at a club (if they only knew!). If one dancer spreads her lips on-stage while another dancer doesn't then she's a whore.

If a dancer allows touching and another dancer doesn't then that dancer is whore. If a dancer is OK with giving a HJ then a dancer who gives BJ's is a whore. And on and on..........

I guess the logical conclusion that escapes these ladies is that they all are whores! Anybody who sells their body in any way is a whore and maybe doesn't even know it. That would include many married ladies who marry someone for money, status, or security.

And we are the hapless PL's who are driven by our uncontrollable, lustful desires and will practically mortgage the house to get in a hottie's pants. At least we are honest about what we want! We don't have to pretend to enjoy a sexual act or pretend we're attracted to someone in order to get something else.

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Dougster
14 years ago
My favorite was a chick I was paying to fuck insisting she was not a whore. Her "reasoning" was that she charged more and did it less frequently than some girl working out on the street. Strippers (like MisterGay) are so stupid they can convince themselves of anything that they would like to believe.
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CTQWERTY
14 years ago
"... and will practically mortgage the house to get in a hottie's pants."

Last time at Bogart's, there was a guy dying of cancer who was deeding his home to a dancer there. I doubt sex was ever involved (the guy could barely get around and the dancer wasn't one of the extras-performing gals). Instead, when he came she would sit with him and keep him company for his visit.
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SuperDude
14 years ago
Stripping for money or marrying for money. A distinction without a difference.
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rickdugan
14 years ago
I actually hate the term "whore" for the obvious negative connotation it has. Unless I am paying someone else's bills I don't get a vote as to how she earns a living.

As we all know, "clean" dancers hate dirty dancers because they are theoretically competing for the same money, so the advantage obviously goes to the more service-oriented woman.

Isn't Capitalism great?

of the advantage that the dirty girls have in earning money, which in turn reducesDancers hate other people who
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rickdugan
14 years ago
^Sorry for the extra junk on the bottom.
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Dudester
14 years ago
A little over ten years ago, an older, longtime friend sat me down for a "fathe/son" talk. He said "the wife is only a higher class, cleaner, whore, and much more expensive. You're better off with a high dollar whore. You never have to pretend to like her family, and you can control the circumstances."

He then articulated about how a guy needs only "a place" and women need "a nest" (translated-house).

Some strippers love their work and rationalize that they're merely "a dancer", when the truth is that ALL strippers are workers in the sex industry. Whether they have sex ITC and/or OTC, or merely sell the illusion of sex, they're sex workers. Wives and girlfriends give sex in return for favors and women in the workplace often sell the illusion of access to sex in return for favors. Teen girls do the same thing for grades. Some girls will cross the line for grades, and more.
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samsung1
14 years ago
A man argues because he knows he is right, while a woman argues because she knows he is wrong.
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bendover656
14 years ago
A wealthy man and an attractive woman meet at a party. Eventually, he asks her if she would sleep with him for a million dollars. She's a bit taken aback but then re-considers and says, "yes, I would sleep with you for a million dollars."

He then asks if she would sleep with him for a 100 dollars. She's quite offended and says, "what kind of woman do you think I am"?

He says, "we've already determined that and now we are just haggling over your price."
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troop
14 years ago
^
that old joke pretty much sums it up!
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arbeeguy
14 years ago
"Wives and girlfriends give sex in return for favors" -- according to Dudester. I'm sure that happens, perhaps frequently, but not always.

Let's say a guy and a gal meet, hit it off emotionally, hit the sack, and have great sex. No strings attached. They like each other and they both like the sex. So is the girl a whore? If "yes" please explain.
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Player11
14 years ago
A whore does some for free and charges others. A prostitute charges everybody. The GF who gives it to her SO for free is a whore if she charges others for sex. Joe SC customer is doing a dancer about 2x week at motel and sometimes itc. Joe's contributions pay her mortgage. This same dancer is married and does her husband for free and describes him on her FB page as her soulmate. She may have 1 or a couple more clients than Joe but not as much action as a Backpage.com escort who would be more towards the prostitute range. The married dancer is a whore. Her husband is essentially a cuckhold. He is not aware his wife is a whore.

I have encountered many dancers who are whores and find it curious how some of the bitches on Strippers Web run dancers who do extras. They are all sex workers so wtf difference does it make?
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Dougster
14 years ago
Dudester, and others here, *need* to think that all women are whores because then, so they reason, every guy is just a guy paying a whore, anyway. If they can conclude that they think it frees them from the guilt they feel for not being able to get sex without paying for it. Unfortunately, their stupid reasoning convinces no one. Not even themselves.
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lopaw
14 years ago
You can't lump an entire gender into a neat little one-size-fits-all package. It just doesn't work that way. Saying all women are whores is like saying all men are douchebags. It's nonsense.
Besides - I personally turn that theory completely around with my wanton chasing (and occasionally capturing) of dancers - where does THAT fit on your scale, hmmmmm?
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Dougster
14 years ago
lopaw: crazed man hating lesbians such as yourself are not exactly normal women, or even women at all for that matter, so completely ignoring them for the sake of this discuss is just fine.
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Player11
14 years ago
In terms of the question posed by the op - yes. Women gravitate towards money and while their reasons for multiple sex partners may involve variety like men it is primarily the collection of more money being the root of their motivation. Women's sexuality has been very much suppressed by our society until recently and in some cultures is still taboo due to religionist systems coupled with mind control. The primary root of this is the fact a woman can do many more men in one day than a man could do women. The large number of married stripper whores I have encountered is a testiment to this fact. Their whoring is not necessarily a desire to reproduce but can be a desire to improve their genes as their S/O's are mainly the low end of the gene pool themselves, especially in IQ. The inferior IQ and earning potential of many of these Stripper Mates fuels Strippers motivation to do whoring in order to provide family income, elevate their status in life, and enjoy a variety of different dick. Furthermore they are excited sexually due to the instictive desire (they may not be aware of) they may improve the genetics of offspring due to these "paid" sexual encounters. While many stripper S/O's are the bottom of the IQ and gene pool the Strippers keep these relationships bc they can control these men and then go and do their whoring.
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Dougster
14 years ago
Payer11 with his fantasies that strippers do what they do because of a desire for "better genes" or "different dick" is as out of contact with reality as they get.
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lopaw
14 years ago
dougster: somehow you weren't on my ignore list anymore, and I had the misfortune of actually seeing your stupid shit. Don't worry - it won't ever happen again.
In the future, don't reply to any of my posts. I don't give a fuck what you think about anything. You do not matter.

I'm happy now, since your sorry bitch ass is back on ignore where it belongs. Type away!
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mmdv26
14 years ago
We should drop our religious charade, and allow any man to fuck any woman for an agreed upon price present or deferred.
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Dougster
14 years ago
lopaw: I'll reply to your posts if I bloody well like! Try and stop me.
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vincemichaels
14 years ago
Can't we all just get along?? LOL
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georgmicrodong
14 years ago
If Dougster's posting in a thread, the answer is "no".

I know, it's rude to post about someone when you've killfiled them, but I don't give a fuck.
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troop
14 years ago
looks like you're describing politicians there smokey ;)
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vincemichaels
14 years ago
troop, you've got a point there.
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Dougster
14 years ago
mircobrain: "I don't give a fuck"

Warning! Warning! Rebel accountants and their micro-dicks on the loose!
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Player11
14 years ago
Jessica (my photos) called me today around 6pm. She had been arressted for DWI and her car is in impound again (about 3rd time this year). She offered to meet me for sex for $60 tomorrow around noon. Told me she dancing at Fantaza Plaza North. I probably will take her up on it but spent visited P at Gold Cup for lunch Thur spent $100 on dances then banged her this morning for $100 at motel (Bikini Friday).
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troop
14 years ago
i was thinking about this thread earlier tonight.
i went to a club that i haven't been to in awhile.
a cute stripper approaches me and we taklk for awhile.
she's 20 yrs old, never married, has 2 kids, and is dancing topless and in a micro g-string for strangers in a bar.
she asks me if i want a dance.
being a straight to the point guy i tell her that i like to touch.
she tells me no touching, that she's not a whore.
i just laugh and tell her that it's not going to work between us.
end of story, draw your own conclusions.
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giveitayank
14 years ago
Lopaw... I had almost forgotton about Dougster, after my long hiatus. My ignore was still working.
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bendover656
14 years ago
It was meant to be a provocative question but I really don't think all women are whores. Whores has a negative connotation and can be used to describe anybody who "sells out" for money or power.

There are women who are genuinely in love with their SO and have sex as an expression of that. But it's often fleeting and eventually becomes a "what have you done for me lately" type of relationship.

Women know they have power over males and eventually use it to get what they want. Men want sex and are willing to work and pay for it and will often "whore" themselves in a way in order to get that money.

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georgmicrodong
14 years ago
It's my opinion that virtually every healthy human relationship is a trade of some sort. Not necessarily of material good, and not necessarily as clean edged as "security for sex" or "love for love". The most successful relationships appear to be when all parties involved understand that, and don't have a problem trading what they are trading. "Bad" relationships appear to fall into one of a couple of broad categories, those where one side takes without giving something in return, and those where one side gives without getting anything in return, and not understanding why that imbalance is a problem.
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troop
14 years ago
smokey3334 says:
Should I try to start a movement? Whores holding hands? Whores across America?

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sounds like a plan smokey.
where do i sign up? :)
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Player11
14 years ago
I see that Dougster can be annoying. My take on him is he can't afford much more than a couple of dances.
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Dougster
14 years ago
I don't know about that one Payer11. You are the one who brags about your $60 whores. To us in the know here, that screams out such desperation that we just avoid them altogether. The fact that you are so concerned over how low a price you pay screams out that you have very little money. i.e. Would anyone who could afford better pay for $60/whores? Didn't think so!
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rickdugan
14 years ago
Dougster, sometimes I think you are funny and other times just monotonous, but giving crap to the likes of lopaw is just plain stupid. Same too with respect to some of the other guys in this thread, many of whom are heavy duty mongers. Maybe a little preumptuous coming from a guy who trolls around a few different clubs in Washington state.
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Dougster
14 years ago
Heavy duty mongers? Lesbians? Oh my! Worthy of such respect, no doubt!

It works like this: If they are idiots I will call them down on it no
matter who they think they are.

Lopaw has earned her idiot title by saying that male to female domestic violence charges run 1000 to 1, without providing any evidence of this, and by saying that girls who do extras do it because they are less attractive than those who don't.

Payer11 has earned his idiot title by thinking he is a player, and saying that strippers who do OTC are doing as part of their quest for "different dick" and "better genes".

You really have a problem with me calling these idiots down on their crap? Maybe you are an idiot yourself.
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rickdugan
14 years ago
They have earned their respect on a SC board by racking up lots of exploits in those clubs and posting about them for our amusement and knowledge.

All you have contributed here is a lot of ankle biting bullshit and a few crumby reviews of local clubs that you manage to scrape up a few dollars for now and again.
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Dougster
14 years ago
rick: by that logic MisterGay deserver our respect. Get a fucking clue.
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Dougster
14 years ago
So rick, waiting to hear from you. Is MisterGay worthy of everyone's respect because of his extensive reviews?

How about giveitayank, at the other end? Just a few lousy reviews of local clubs. Unworthy of anyone's respect?

You are trying to control what I post like lopaw and others have in the past. Hint, it doesn't work like. I'll post as I like regardless of what you think. But go ahead and beat your head against a wall trying to stop me if you like.
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rickdugan
14 years ago
Doug, and to a degree he does. He may be an irritating, condescending shithead with a vastly overrated opinion of his exploits, but I daresay he has contributed a lot more than you have.
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Dougster
14 years ago
So Rick thinks MisterGay is worthy of respect? Ok, shows how much respect we should give to his thoughts then.

It's nice that you learn so much from MisterGay, microdick, Payer11, and lopaw. I sure the fuck don't! Perhaps MisterGay was right and you really are a n00b after all?

I also like your reasoning that reviewing only local clubs implies the person has no money. I see SuperDude has only reviewed clubs near Detroit. (A poor city no less!) Must have no money, eh? I put your critical skills right up there with MisterGay whom you are learning so much from.
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rickdugan
14 years ago
Doug, are you high? The entire sum total of your contributions are seven reviews of a total of 4 clubs spread over two years. And you've provided virtually no additional info. in article or blog posts. Net-net, you come off as a lurker rather than a participant.

For all of Mr. Guy's many failings, he at least provides us with some good info.
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Dougster
14 years ago
Buddy, I think you are the one who is high if you think I should have some altruistic desire to post a bunch of reviews to help people here. I could care less if I am helping others or not with my reviews or review count.

Nor do I have some narcistic need, as (e.g.) MisterGay seems to, to portray myself as some kind of hero based on review count.

I don't post reviews of all the clubs I go to, and rarely post reviews at all, because I rarely have a desire to read other's reviews. Why? Because I get little useful information out them. Things were stable with my favorites clubs until there was a recent shakeup when three of them got shut down. At point I decided to post some reviews, so I could use the boards here to keep better track of what was going on with the strippers who left those clubs.

I'll post reviews when it is my interst to do so, and if you don't like it, well too fuckin' bad for you.

Good ahead and respect MisterGay and Payer11 and learn from them and the other idiots if you like and whine that I don't post enough review . Ain't gonna change any of what I do things at all.


As for who to respect on this board? I'll base it on what they post on this board. Do they understand strippers and the strip club culture? Does what they say make sense? That is way more important to me than their review count, or if their clubs are local or not, which I could care less about.
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rickdugan
14 years ago
Doug, I am in 40-50 clubs per year spread over 10 states. My club night count per year runs at 80-100 and many of those nights end with me fucking a hot young stripper. I post a fraction of my visits on here, but even at that it is amply more than I see you post. I come on here for information, which many of the Tusclers are good enough to provide.

What do you do? And what do you provide to the SC community that adds to the cause?
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Dougster
14 years ago
Dude you are one messed up fuck if you think you are contribuing to some kind of "cause" here. Go work for a meaningful charity or something if that is your goal. Not a strip club board.

I'm on the board to gain insights from those who do know what they are talking about. Sorry but that does not include idiots like Payer11 and MisterGay who are clueless despite their high review count. You truly seem to place weight on experience. I'll place my weight on how well a person interprets their experience or just plain gets it to begin with.

Along the way I'll, from time to time, correct misinformation, such as the recent misinformation regarding STDs or txtitty's idiotic ideas of when to short treasuries and the US dollar. If you don't like reading my posts you know where the ignore button is.

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rickdugan
14 years ago
I do indeed shit for brains and I just pushed it.
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Dougster
14 years ago
Bye-bye, Rick. Btw, if that girl in your picture is an example of the "hot young strippers" you are fucking you are already of Payer11, but you are way, way behind me in this game. I'll go for the knockouts myself. Have fun!
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lopaw
14 years ago
giveit,
yeah that idiot is about as forgettable as you can get. Once again, thank god for "ignore". Remind me to send Founder a thank you email!


rick,
I can't tell for sure from your last post, but I'm hoping that you have joined the rest of us and utilized that ignore feature.
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vincemichaels
14 years ago
Ain't nothing like a Dougster in the world. I'll give him this, he's got a few of us stirred up. Personally, I prefer the company of a young hot dancer.
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magicrat
14 years ago
Personally, I think a mix is good for the board. I don't agree with everything any member here says, but I can appreciate the differing viewpoints. I can live without the personal attacks, but hell, it is just an internet stripper discussion board so I'm not going to get my panties all in a wad. As it's been brought out, there is an ignore button and I have used it a few times myself, mostly for people that seem to want to write a book espousing their beliefs/philosophies or whatever.

Why can't we all just get along? to quote a famous American lol

Ok..back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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rickdugan
14 years ago
magic, that was beautiful man - I almost heard "We Are The World" playing in the background. ;)

lopaw, already done. And as soon as I did so I noticed that I no longer had to look at those ridiculous posts.
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Book Guy
14 years ago
I actually do believe that some relationships between man and woman are about "mutual compatibility" rather than about the old male-versus-female sex-for-money thing. I do think the vast, vast vast vast, majority of North American relationships are problematic in the manners in which this thread has intelligently pointed out. But I also know a lot of "balanced" couples who are well into their middle ages, in which the North American problems don't surface as much. The woman likes to be thought of as an attractive woman, doesn't let herself go to pot, and comes out of her gym and fashion sessions looking like a classy European whore (uh ... "call girl"?) rather than a bloated American Wal-Mart waddler. The man likewise gives to the woman what she "needs" in some ways -- his dominant worldly success, his capacity to cut through the crap, his ability to see the big picture and so forth. Both members of the couple have moved on from the childishness.

These couples are generally fueled by two things. First, the woman is disdainful of materialism. She thinks the "Real Housewives of Whatever County" are the worst possible human beings on the planet. She also is extremely beautiful, to the point that she COULD be visually appealing enough to be a really classy internet escort.

Second, the man is tall and attractive and wealthy. The woman has class, and she chooses a high-class partner.

Third, the couple recognize what they offer to one another. Each realizes the benefits of having the other in his or her life, and is thankful for it, rather than disdainful of the way "they" (the other gender) are "always" acting. That's because, in these good couples, the "typical" behaviors of the other gender seldom surface. The man doesn't belch or fart or think of NASCAR as intellectually stimulating or pretend that pee-pee doo-doo jokes are hilarious; the woman doesn't whine or cavil or withhold sex merely in order to manipulate the man. Each has chosen to be mature.

And there's one last essential element. They aren't monogamous. The man has sex with LOTS of hot young women. Either he pays for it (Amsterdam, Thailand, whatever, wherever) or he has a bevy from which he gleans his choosing (photographer's models, public relations guru with the interns, Senator with pages, executive with secretaries).

So: do you want out of the typical North American trap? Want your women to stop being little princesses who whine and bitch and act like the phrase "Women are from Venus" was the entire title of a book that JUSTIFIES childish behavior? Well then, do the following:

(1) get really rich and successful and tall and good-looking
(2) don't tell anybody you're rich; date anti-materialist women who have inheritances so they don't have to demand a lot of money from their men
(3) probably best to move out of North America; try Western European socialist democracies, for example, where the assumptions about what the man "has to" earn are quite different, since social responsibility and "being a successful human" aren't 100% of the time equated simply with profitability and capacity to make a quick buck, but instead have more relation to doing the RIGHT and DECENT thing.

Oh yeah, item (4):

be tall.

There's really no way around that. Since I'm only 5'8" and will never be an inch over that, I'm sad to say that I'm not welcome among the elite.
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samsung1
14 years ago
People, People, People
Where's the love in this world?
People, People, People
Where's the love in this world? Because you're all my brothers and sisters
We all love with one heart
So why won't some girl suck my cock?
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Dougster
14 years ago
Now that jablake is gone, it's looking like Book Guy is trying to solidify his position as TUSCL (and the world's) biggest windbag ever.
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MisterGuy
14 years ago
"The large number of married stripper whores I have encountered is a testiment to this fact. Their whoring is not necessarily a desire to reproduce but can be a desire to improve their genes as their S/O's are mainly the low end of the gene pool themselves, especially in IQ."

"Furthermore they are excited sexually due to the instictive desire (they may not be aware of) they may improve the genetics of offspring due to these 'paid' sexual encounters. While many stripper S/O's are the bottom of the IQ and gene pool the Strippers keep these relationships bc they can control these men and then go and do their whoring."

How the hell can one "improve their genes" by fucking a lot of people, especially when using protection?? Learn some science man! Ugh...

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"He may be an irritating, condescending shithead with a vastly overrated opinion of his exploits, but I daresay he has contributed a lot more than you have."

LOL...I'm not surprised that it's taken you *this long* to learn to NOT engage in a back-and-forth with an obvious Internet Troll noob. BTW, you're projecting with your "condescending shithead with a vastly overrated opinion of his exploits"...that's YOU my noob friend! Run along now...at least you're beginning to learn...slowly...
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