Comments by whatevergong82 (page 2)

Amen, yoda. Basically, if she doesn't out and out offer it, they usually don't. Like I said, if you're in places like H-Town or Dallas, don't even bother. In those two aforementioned towns, you can ask. The ones that don't play usually won't be offended that you did ask (they know the situation in those clubs anyway.) The rest of the time in those clubs, you can pretty much literally see who plays and who doesn't, and that solves all your questions.

I'll admit if the dancer is hot, and I have some $$ to spend, that I'll check out the menu if it's offered. But, I don't initiate the contact or the rules; I always make sure the dancer sets the limits on what she'll allow. (I admit I have done some CFS in H-Town in the past, but always with a raincoat.) I've had fun at clubs where I knew many of the strippers 'like to play', as they put it, but without going for FS. Most of the time, that's how I approach getting a lap dance. For example, I was in Houston Saturday afternoon at Treasures and I decided to get a set of 2 dances from a hot looking dancer. Anyway, she let me suck on her tits and feel her ass, which is what most clubs allow in that town, and she was grinding me good. Now here comes the odd part: she asked me after the two songs "Did I want to play?" I turned her down, even though I was tempted. I was mildly surprised because I didn't even ask for anything approaching full service when I met her, but I surmise that since many clubs in H-Town do offer the full menu, she was checking to see if I would do too. Besides, even though I had a raincoat available, I didn't go to Treasures to f++k, when you can go to spas for less cash for the same thing.

Some of the clubs I go to use dark lights, but if they wanted to stop the 'good times' all they had to do is get more security. For example, in some towns in Texas (especially Dallas and Houston), it is well known that if you have the $$$, you can get the full menu (wink, wink). A lot of clubs in those towns know that strippers are doing hand jobs and blow jobs and having sex in the clubs, but they don't give a damn as long as 1) the club gets a cut of the cash, and 2) LE doesn't know about it.

I'd give Club #1 a 7 because of the GFE experience with the hottie, but I'd warn people what to expect there. For Club #2, I'd give a 6 if the service is lousy and overpriced, and a 7 if I got decent service from a 8-10 lapper, 8 if the service is hot (decent prices, good grinding from the stripper, interactive groping from the stripper without extras), 9 and up if you get extras from the hot babe.

I rarely drink at a SC or GC, because I don't want to spend more $$ than I need to (or get dances from an ugly looking dancer.) If I do drink, it's a wine cooler or pina colada with rum.

Catherine Zeta-Jones or Halle Berry. Nadine Velazquez from My Name is Earl. Eva Longoria from Desperate Housewives. Leeann Tweeden. Kelly Hu. If any of these women don't make you get hot and heavy, and want to get some hot lap dances in a strip club from your regular ATF as a substitute, I don't know what will.

I'm not sure out of this group who would give high quality dances if they were strippers, but I think that Catherine Zeta-Jones and Eva Longoria would probably be air dancers. Kelly Hu looks like she would have fun making a guy cum, and smile all the way while doing that. Leeann Tweeden I'd think she'd be high mileage as well. Nadine Velazquez looks like she would have to strip for about 1 1/2-2 years before she'd become high mileage. Halle Berry I'd think would just be an air dancer

Daytime is my M.O. I work early in the daytime, and where I live at now, you get quality dancers in the afternoon hours (not as many as night though), but they're more fun and don't usually cost as much $$$. Also, I met my current ATF during the daytime, and she does/allows everything that I like (tit sucking, HJ, CBJ, BBBJ, CFS), and she doesn't cost major $$ for the fun to start. Even when I don't want the Full Menu, the daytime (7 and up in beauty) girls in my neck of the woods (it's a Topless Club) at least let you suck on their tits while they give you a quality HJ after grinding very hard on your joystick til you cum. Most of the time, the HJ is a freebie after you've spent cash on them, and they do it so you'd remember to come back to them in the future.

I went to a club in Texas once where the dancer that was dancing for me was around 37. She proved it by talking about stuff that happened in the late 1970's through 1980's, which most people under 30 have no clue about. She had a nice body (score it about a 7 1/2, probably was a 8 1/2 to 9 when she was 10-15 years younger), and allowed touching and tit sucking on top while she was expertly grinding my cock to my heart's content, but you could tell that she's been around the block awhile. Not a hint of plastic surgery, but there are lines around her eyes, cellulite about her legs, but the tits were still firm, even though you could tell that they were starting to sag (a little). Like someone else said, by the time that strippers hit 30 or so, if they haven't kept themselves in shape, that's when you usually get the strippers that offer to customers "extra services", i.e. hand jobs, blow jobs, sex in the club, sex outside the club, you name it. However, I've noticed when I'm in town that certain clubs in the Houston, TX area have girls in their early 20's that like to party, and play in or OTC, so now I have 2 questions that are slightly off topic: 1) What age is it when strippers usually start allowing extras? 2) Why do some girls offer extras and some don't?

The reason I was asking those questions is when I'm in Houston that young women come right out and offer extras, when 90% I'm not interested, even if she's cute as a button. I certainly don't want to be considered like RL, since I have a life like the rest of us do, but I was curious.

I prefer real tits, about size B or C if the lady works out regularly, just like someone else mentioned earlier. I don't turn down fake tits, but they had better not be porn shaped or Pamela Anderson like (which means the same thing when you think about it). Real ones are meant to be held, fondled, pinched and sucked on. Fake ones, especially bad fakes, are like sucking on a balloon, and who wants to get off on sucking silicone??

Anyplace North of Detroit in Michigan, ie Flint or Saginaw. Flint and Saginaw offer full nude clubs, but no alcohol is served, there is limited touching, and the girls are usually about a 6 on average (and I'm being kind!!) If you're in Michigan, go to the Flight Club in Inkster, right near Metro Airport. The dancers are nearly as pretty as the ones in Vegas and Texas, but the worst you'll get usually from the dancers is tits in your mouth to suck on and an outside the pants hand job.

As far as "Most Top 40 Clubs Visited", I've been to these: Treasures (Houston, Tx) and Flight Club (Inkster, Michigan). Both are very worth their reputation, though expensive. I've been to Landing Strip in MI, and its a nice second tier titty bar, way above any Deja Vu or local dive, but below the Top 40 Clubs.

Mid 20's to early 30's are my preferences. Anything outside that range for me is usually not too pleasing to me at all (of course, there are exceptions. For example, I've had hot laps from 18 year old girls that didn't care what the rules were in the club, they were going to ride Mr. Happy that was safely in my pants until I started cumming!!)

Body matters more. I like to look at a body that has a tight ass and nice tits to suck on. An average face and a tight body is what I'd prefer, but if you can get a pretty face and same for the body, that is ok, but in strip clubs, that type is usually stuck up. It's when you get a tight body, pretty face, and nice personality is when you hit the jackpot. I've had great dances from average looking (face wise) dancers, and lousy ones from dancers that had pretty faces. But, I've had the Full Menu from a former ATF (Latina) that had a girl next door face, tight abs (she didn't work out like she could, but since she's in her mid 20's, she can still get away with it), natural B tits to suck on (which I did, often), and a great ass which she used to grind on my dick when she started lapping. We liked talking to each other a lot, so much that she ended up giving me CFS in the club each and every time whenever I saw her at the club she worked at, and did OTC action later on. It always pays to pay attention to the personality first and foremost though.

Wow, you guys lead very interesting lives. The only thing that approaches a surpise in my book was one time I was in Houston at Treasures for the first time, and the very first dancer that I'd ever had a lap dance with in that place, after chatting with me for about 15-20 minutes, gives me a CBJ, which shocked the living shit out of me. The next time I met her, she started to give me CFS, and would each and every time I met her in the club. (I guess she liked me, LOL!!) To this day, the reputation of Southern Hospitality is well deserved in Texas, because I've gotten some BBBJ and CFS in other clubs in that state without even asking or bringing it up when I travel to Texas. (I make sure I pay the dancers for their enthusiasm and time, though.)