Too old to strip?

The reason I was asking those questions is when I'm in Houston that young women come right out and offer extras, when 90% I'm not interested, even if she's cute as a button.

I certainly don't want to be considered like RL, since I have a life like the rest of us do, but I was curious.

I went to a club in Texas once where the dancer that was dancing for me was around 37. She proved it by talking about stuff that happened in the late 1970's through 1980's, which most people under 30 have no clue about.

She had a nice body (score it about a 7 1/2, probably was a 8 1/2 to 9 when she was 10-15 years younger), and allowed touching and tit sucking on top while she was expertly grinding my cock to my heart's content, but you could tell that she's been around the block awhile. Not a hint of plastic surgery, but there are lines around her eyes, cellulite about her legs, but the tits were still firm, even though you could tell that they were starting to sag (a little).

Like someone else said, by the time that strippers hit 30 or so, if they haven't kept themselves in shape, that's when you usually get the strippers that offer to customers "extra services", i.e. hand jobs, blow jobs, sex in the club, sex outside the club, you name it.

However, I've noticed when I'm in town that certain clubs in the Houston, TX area have girls in their early 20's that like to party, and play in or OTC, so now I have 2 questions that are slightly off topic: 1) What age is it when strippers usually start allowing extras?

2) Why do some girls offer extras and some don't?

I have had some of the older dancers tell me their age. I didn't believe that some dancers were in their 40's until I was told. I know of one 39 year old dancer that could pass for 29 easily. I myself am still wondering why some people still ask to see my id when I am in my 30's. I didn't think I looked underage.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I find an intelligent woman with a good sense of humor and a bit of experience to be extremely sexy. It doesn't matter if it's conversation or lap dances, there is no substitute for experience and confidence.

I agree with Chitown, most girls reach their peak in the looks department in their early 20's. They may not have developed much poise yet and their personalities haven't yet been fully formed, bot for me that's all part of their charm. I'm a sucker for the woman-child. Give me a really cute 20 year old with a great smile and sunny disposition and I'm in lust. That describes my ATF perfectly.

Overall, with the casual dancer I don't make a decision based on age. I go on looks and attitude for the most part, so I often get dances from both young girls and veterans. While it's true I have a unique situation at my regular clubs where there is "no contact" I've found that the dancers I liked most were in their late twenties, had been dancing for a long time (6+ years). At some point they'd gotten over all the stripper damage and made their peace with what they were doing and their need to do it for a while longer. To me there was something about thier attitude, the comfort with themselves and their atmosphere that was very familiar and comfortable. IT made time spent with them very pleasant. In at least two cases I know they also gave awsome lapdances.

For me, it's easy to tell. Unfortunately, I can't describe the thought process in detail for how I determine their age except to say that I have to study them carefully and wouldn't be able to tell from a casual glance. A couple quick things to check are their hands and their eyes. Also, plastic surgery can make it difficult to determine, but it's easy to determine if she has had plastic surgery, which is a clue to their age as well.

My favorites tend to be in their late teens and early twenties. I will freely stipulate that, by and large, they are not the greatest conversationalists. However, they compensate for that deficiency with zero cottage cheese on the thighs, gravity defying breasts, and abs that I can feel tightening as they stretch their bodies over me.

That having been said...I have had some really good dances from women in their mid thirties. They seem to have a better idea of what it takes to make a man feel special. They also are much more in touch with what it takes to man feel that he is going to lose his load. Generally, I prefer to stick with the young ones, with an occasional veteran for variety. The biggest problem that older dancers face is not becoming hardened.

For real life, I think a woman's perfect age is between 26 and 28.

If a dancer is in shape, I can't necessarily tell whether she is in her late 20's, 30's or 40's (unless they tell me and it happens) and her age doesn't matter to me if she still looks good and is a fun dancer to be around. I can easily imagine that a few dancers that I have met that are in their late 30's or 40's don't look like it and may not have been working as dancers for a while. I know of one club where I believe some or many of the dancers working the weekend are moonlighting from other real world occupations. I remember one dancer in her 20's who I haven't seen in years told me she was a real estate agent and moonlighting on the weekend. I guess she got more successful in her regular job and quit stripping.

to me age is less important than attitude and willingness to have fun.

I agree, I'm mostly interested in finding a girl who hasn't been dancing very long. But that usually turns out to be a young one. I also enjoy the youthful attitude.

Minnow: An excellent point. Most of my older favs have not been dancing for more than two or three years -with a notable exception of the 46 year old that I mentioned in my other post. She's been dancing for 20 years, has raised five kids, put three of them through college and the oldest is starting law school.

How about max consecutive yrs one should be dancing. An attractive 28 yr old that only started a few mos. ago, but with background in "real world job" ( schoolteacher, etc) that decided to give stripping a whirl can be more refreshing than 24 yo thats been at it since 18, and has become burnt out and cynical.

I'm with DD. I don't really care how old they are, I've had fun with 19 yo's and 40 yo's. If they're unintelligent at 19, they're still going to be unintelligent at 40. But my most fun times have generally been with quite young girls, so I tend to seek those out. My ATF was 20. My other 2 faves were both around 22. All 3 were intelligent, gorgeous and personable short-termers. In my experience, when a girl is still dancing into her late 20's, she's either developed an attitude or she doesn't have much on the ball. I'm sure there are many exceptions but that's true often enough to cause me to look for younger girls.

As long as I like them, I don't worry too much about how old they are or think they are.

What exactly does an 18 or 19 year old dancer talk about that is so interesting?

Now, mind you, an 18 or 19 year old dancer doesn't really have to say anything to be interesting. She can just fiddle with her G string or bikini, wiggle in your lap, and show you her new strategically placed tattoos and piercings. That would qualify her as interesting to men.

It has just been my experience that their conversational topics aren't all that interesting, at least intellectually speaking. I'll grant that perhaps I was too, erm, distracted to listen to what they were saying though. ;)

One of my favorites, from a few years ago at Teasers in Key West, was 39. No way she looked it and I always had a great time with her when in Key West. I guess that is when she quit, as next time I was there, the bar tender said she was no longer working.

I definitely disagree with this 19 y/o bashing. The two most interesting (=intelligent) girls I ever talked to happened to be 19 when I met them. I also met a very interesting 18 y/o. 4 of my top 5 favs were <= 21. OTOH, I think as time goes on it gets harder to not get sucked into the ethical and general bankruptcy that is strip clubs.

A few can resist long term, though.

I also think it's possible to have fun with pure, dumb party girl types, but you just have to know how. :-)

The 18-19 year olds have nothing to talk about, but you can't blame them. They haven't really lived a life yet. They're just getting started.

They usually get interesting in the early to mid 20's. They've traveled a little, they've partied a lot, and usually they have enough stories to fill the time before you start getting dances from her or tell her no thanks you're not interested.

The late 20's to mid 30's dancers usually like to talk about what they're going to do after they quit dancing. The ones without career goals wind up working at the club in some other capacity like waitress or housemom until they find some guy to marry them. The ones with career goals move onto their next careers, usually nothing ambitious, just the same kind of job they would have gotten if they were just out of school in their early 20's.

I've never met a dancer in her 40's. Ever. At that stage of their life, they've moved onto prostitution or gotten some lowly job like convenience store clerk, grocery store cashier, or secretary if they have't found someone to marry by then. The price you pay for neglecting to get an education and developing a realistic career plan is that your job choices are severely limited at this stage of your life.

If a dancer still looks very good in her 30's and 40's, I don't see any problem. I don't really see age as the problem, I see really bad attitudes and rolls of fat as the problem to continuing dancing for a long time. A few guys to my surprise seem to like fat girls but I'm not aware of any such guys at the small clubs that I may visit. If a girl still looks good in her 30's and 40's, I am just as likely to get a dance from her as someone in their 20's. If I'm in a small club where you can actually talk to people without the DJ blasting you deaf, it's nice to be able to talk to the dancers on occasion. I remember some attempted conversations with young dancers would go something like this. me: What do you do for fun in your spare time? Do you go online or play computer games? young dancer responds " I don't like computers!" silence... She didn't seem very interested in talking or offer anything to talk about. If a guy wanted to chat with a dancer while watching the stage show before he got a few dances, this particular young dancer and a few others would be more like a girl you wanted to dump because she had nothing to offer in the conversation department.

I used to like the 23-25 range best. But then I learned how party girls work. So now any age up to 25 is good, though I definitely think 21 is peak.

If she's over 29, pretty likely she's a lifer and hence a loser. (Oh, yeah, this is just her part time job, almost forgot...)

Think they should retire after they are 25, I mean maybe 29 if they really want to push it, but definitely best to not try to over do a good thing.

Late 20's to mid 30's works for me. I have a couple of favs who are pushing 40 and one who is 46-with anamazing body. I have no interest in young girls. I have nothing to talk about with them and I tend to like women with a sense of humor-not the giggles.

You're to old to strip when you can't make any money. For some girls that could be 23.....

I've also noticed that older dancers seem to go one of two different routes: either they work hard to keep their figures, or they offer services that many of their younger counterparts won't. And I suspect some do both. I know of a place where most of the dancers are over 40 and seriously overweight, but they seem to do a lot of private "dances." I guess they give great conversation. Or something.

Dancers in strip clubs are similar to athletes in professional sports.

Athletes and dancers are best at their physical peaks at a young age but can work out strenuously to stay in the physical condition necessary to make their careers last longer to an extent. They can learn tricks and use techniques younger people don't know or aren't capable or willing to learn because they can get by on their natural talents.

Similarly, fans appreciate different things. Many like the raw talents and natural gifts of the younger performers closer to their physical prime, while others prefer to see performers who know how to work with what they have to the fullest and to superlative effect.

I think it depends on the type of place that you're talking about. In many clubs, especially the more upscale ones, you rarely see many girls over 30. On the other hand, in the small neighborhood titty bars, women in their 40's are quite common. Such places often attract mostly retired older men and the older ladies can do quite well. Whereas a lot of the more upscale clubs will draw somewhat of a younger and pickier crowd, particularly at night. I'm guessing that a lot of these older ladies started out in more upscale places and moved down the food chain as they aged. I'm also guessing that a lot of them are single mothers.

Anyway while I usually prefer the younger ones, I've met some of these older gals who were very pleasant company. And also high mileage. They can also make pretty good money - say for example, there are 3 girls working, so they each get 3 rotations on stage per hour and pick up maybe $20 tips each time; that's $60 per hour, even without any private dances, which is a hell of a lot better than Walmart pays. Such places also usually have little if any house fees. Contrast that with the upscale place that has 20 girls per shift and big house fees, the girls there have to really hustle the laps to clear $60 per hour.