Please suggest the best club/city for a 10 day dance binge. Thanks! :)
Geographically, I'm looking to go no further west than about Austin, OKC, Wichita, Des Moines, Minneapolis...so pretty much the eastern half of the US.I read as many reviews as I can, but if I've never been to a club before, or even an entire city, sometimes it's still tough to know if it's really the best choice for me? In fact, I haven't yet visited any of the 5 cities I listed above!
Considerations:
1. Extras are irrelevant to me. I'm not going beyond dances, so all I care about is the option for two-way contact. I do appreciate clubs where, if the dancer and I connect with each other, we can kind of "be ourselves", within reason...
2. I tend to do very well with dancers who might be described by some of the following words or phrases: cute, pretty, petite, slim, "slim thick", athletic, girl-next-door, natural breasts, kind, thoughtful, sweet, genuine, funny, intelligent, talkative, warm, honest, drama-free, caring, fun, chill, and sober. NO, I'm not looking for a wife, girlfriend, best friend, or anything more than a simple dancer/customer relationship. :) I just know from past experiences who I tend to get along the best with.
3. I don't want a club that's stupid expensive, but my daily budget can be pretty high if I find someone I like. My favorite scenario is one where 1) I want to keep spending on her, 2) she doesn't want to leave my side, and 3) the club makes it possible for #1 and #2 to happen. I don't mind spending a serious chunk of change if the girl and I have lots of great time together, and the club doesn't have crazy ideas about the percentage they're going to take from her...
4. I'm not going to a club that insists on scanning my ID, unless I can avoid that by getting there early.
5. I'm not doing valet parking. I could possibly consider getting a ride to a club, if the club is really, really good otherwise.
6. I'm unlikely to visit a club where I have to be concerned about the dress code. I've been welcomed into many clubs that had a sign posted saying that my EXACT attire was unacceptable, and yet they let me in anyway without a second thought. My "running around" clothes are quite basic, but I guess I look like a pretty clean guy who just likes to be comfortable, since, well...that's what I am. :)
7. Unfortunately, I'm only fluent in English, and I'm not going to try to get to know someone via a translator app. I don't care where a dancer is from, but they have to be fairly fluent in English for things to have a chance. So if a place has really awesome girls, but I can only easily communicate with a small percentage of them, that greatly reduces the odds of finding the right one.
I hope I haven't forgotten something, but I think that probably about covers it. I certainly have some decent options that I already know for myself, but like I said, there are places I've still never been. Does Austin, OKC, or some other city you know have one or more clubs that I really need to be checking out???
Thanks everyone! :)
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Proposed lineup… you will drive or uber a lot…
Day 1: St James from afternoon till close
Day 2: day shift at Heartbreakers (great lunch special) … finish with late hours at the Ritz.
Day 3: day shift at The Colorado (good food)… finish at Treasures
Day 4: day at Cover Girls… finish at Bucks Wild
Day 5: day at Polekatz… finish at Vivid
Day 6: all day at The Mens Club
Day 7: all day at the Mile High Club
Day 8: return to your favorite or try some of the Latina clubs (Chicas Locas or Diosa)
Day 9: start at Double Shoe and end at Ocean Cabaret (only open Thursday to Sunday). Visit Kemah in the morning.
Day 10: bookend the trip with a full day at the St. James
Read all of the Reverend Horni Bastards posts before you go.
Be safe. Tell us how it was. How much money do you plan to spend? I would guess this would be at least $10k for me.
To answer your budget question, if I can find someone I like well enough, $10k is probably about right. But what I'm really hoping to do is find one girl at one club, and if we're a good match, just spend everything on her. Since I don't want to try to get comfortable with more than 1 or 2 clubs, especially not knowing my way around Houston, can you suggest your top 3 clubs for my case?
Also, I never wear sweat pants, but any issues with athletic shorts at any place you'd recommend? Also, I thought Bucks Wild would insist on an ID scan???
Thanks!
Thanks! So both are fine with athletic shorts, and neither does an ID scan? When I was in Dallas, I thought the Bucks there told me that all of their clubs do a scan, which is why I never stopped by that location... Baby Dolls didn't do that, but I had to switch to more casual attire to get in, and I didn't find any girls of interest to me...
I think that is probably a good approach, but I think there is not a real solid answer for the day you show up (they might be!)
Of course, I can always try the approach "have you met my friend Andrew Jackson"? :)
By chance, do you know if Austin clubs are also in on the scanning craze??
If you're talking Texas and you don't like traffic, then Austin isn't going to be for you either. I-35 is a bitch and a half to drive and the best clubs (where girls speak English) are on opposite sides of town. I would've suggested starting in Dallas and working your way to Austin, San Antonio, and finally Houston. 10 days is enough time to have a decent time in all those towns. But I don't think you need to do that...
Here's a hot take. If a successful binge to you is finding 2 to 3 dancers you really vibe with, and you've got 10 days to work with, go to San Antonio. You can do just as well there for your humble goals with better service, decents odds of finding 2-3 girls that are as fun (and good looking) as what you'd find in Austin, and clubs that are underrated. One caveat. If you're mostly looking for white dancers, club-for-club you're going to find more of them in Austin on both shifts.
If we’re staying in the states then I’d go to Detroit (but since you aren’t interested in extras, that may be an irrelevant suggestion).
Phoenix/Tempe - too far west?
Miami or Tampa?
All the cities you mentioned aren’t know for good clubbing experiences. If I had to choose only from the cities you listed I would pick Austin. Over 10 days you could hit Austin AND Houston.
If money isn't really an issue, why not do the obvious and go to NYC? Perhaps with some trips to the other boroughs or out to Patterson mixed in?
Club Risque and Delilah's consistently have super hot dancers that do dances with great mileage, you don't even have to do VIP.
Go to either club, find a dancer you like and try a single $20 dance and go from there.
So I read the article you linked and came away with a very different conclusion. The ID scanning company retains the data for 6 months, which means that if you visit a club every six months (that uses them) at some point the fact that you visited a club either appear on some doxxing list or you'll be subject to blackmail--because eventually they will get hacked. Second, they try to say that the data is stored on the ID scanning companies servers, but the very next sentence says that bar staff have access. Third, they make it clear that they will share visitation history between their client bars.
For a company that is openly taking this ID scanning to a dystopian place, see this: https://guestban.com/
Ideally, I hope to just find one girl to vibe with, and spend the rest of the trip only doing dances with her. In reality, I can't always narrow things down just though conversation, so I might have to try dances with 4 to 6 girls before I can really figure things out.
Thanks!
As for Detroit, yeah, I've always assumed it probably wouldn't be the best choice for me, even though it's a very popular destination for many. Arizona is further than I really want to go at the moment, but maybe in the future... I'd probably run into more language barriers in Miami... I do know my way around Tampa fairly well, but I was thinking of trying someplace new to me. Tampa is always an option, though!
Anyway, thanks for your suggestions! I guess a part of me is thinking of giving Austin a try... :)
The $10 table dances at the Pompano clubs, Booby Trap, Cheetah, and Diamond Dolls are pretty solid. Many girls will do slightly better in the $25/song lap dance areas too. IMO, those are better day shift options than night, but night shift is okay too. If you aren't looking for extras and want to go late night, you can hit up places like Vixens and Scarlett's in Davie & Hallendale respectively. Both of those tend to have some pretty hot girls and pretty good dances without much of an upsell to the rooms. There are also clubs like the Body in Miami that is a lower end but still fun place to stop. Or a spot like Deans gold with the $25 dances. If you're in Palm Beach, Fri/Sat nights after 11 or so and aren't too worried about price, Rachels is nice. Rhino and Cheetah are also okay, but Cheetah will have some upsell for the rooms. Monroes can be fun, but I usually avoid that place due to the ID scanning.
I was just recently in Philly and tried out two of the Risque's and Cheerleaders, they weren't bad but I'm not a fan of the tip parade. Maybe it's because I'm not local and don't quite understand the MO, but I also found the pre-payment for dances and the way they count songs a bit odd. They also seemed to be topless only, vs the full nudity in south Florida. But I will say two of the three had some girls that were quite hot, funny enough I even met a pair of Cuban girls who recognized me from Cheetah Pompano. I did enjoy speaking to the the girls in English, but oddly found them to be much less inclined to sit and chat. I didn't get a chance to thoroughly investigate as I was only there M-F, but I wouldn't choose Philly over south Florida.
I haven't been to Toronto/Missasauga in about a year and a half, but in the past I've quite enjoyed those clubs. A lot of places have $20 dances, and with the exchange rate being the way it us the US dollars go far up there. They don't seem to have the obsession with thickness up there, so I quite like the selection of girls. Its hard for me to say they're better than the south Florida clubs, but Toronto is one of the few areas I usually weasel an extra day or two in my trip so I can hit the clubs.
Toronto is that great.
Regarding Philly, can you elaborate on the part about the way they counted songs? Did you run into issues with the prepaid dances, or was it just different from what you're used to? Thanks!
In other words, I'm finding it more and more difficult to find the kind of situation where I can say, oh yeah, THIS is a place I want to do some serious splurging in! :)
But if English speaking is an important criteria, I'd remove south Florida from your list of possibilities. It's not like you won't find a few here and there, but odds are you'll end up physically enamored with a non-English speaker and then feel like you're settling for a decent looking English speaker, which will kinda damper the fun.
I'd still be happy to hear what you encountered with song counting in Philly??
Thanks!
Anyway, at Risque Philly, there's a guy posted up at a desk near the entrance to the area where they do dances. From reviews, I knew the dances were $20 each, but I didn't know anything else. The first girl I went back with told me I had to pre-pay for all my dances, so I gave the guy $40 for two. Then we went in, just by coincidence it was right at the start of a song so she started right way. At the end of that song, she stood up, said that's it and quickly walked away, never to be seen again. In her defense, it was a long ass EDM song that probably was in excess of 5 mins. But, it was clearly 1 song, not the two I paid for. But, it was a shitty dance to a long song and I really wasn't interested int he 2nd song anyway so I didn't even make an effort to stop her and zero effort to recover the $20 from the guy out front since I didn't really feel cheated on time.
The next girl asked where I was from and asked how the clubs were down here, that led to a discussion about how dances are done differently. She started out giving me the same story as the first girl, but when I asked her "what happens I buy two dances and at the end I want more? We have to stop, go back out front and pay again, then come back?" she changed her tune and her eyes lit up a little like she had a fish on. She said I had to pay $20 to go into the room, which covered the first song, then when we were finished I could pay for any extra songs. So, that's what we did. We got back there mid song & she waited for the next song to start. The dances were good, not quite south Florida good, but I kept count and we did 5 songs. We stopped at the end of a song. After we were finished, I asked her how much I owed and she shrugged and said she didn't know, we'd have to ask the guy. We went out there, dude looked at his screen, stuck out his hand and said "40." I asked, "40 more?" because I fully expected to owe $80 more and he confirmed, "3 dances, you paid 20 already so 40 more."
Now thoroughly confused, I was approached by a girl I knew from Cheetah Pompano. I know her quite intimately, if you know what I'm saying. We're not BFF's, but I know she is a straight shooter and she knows the same about me. So I asked her to explain how this works to me. She told me it's timed, not song based. She didn't know how long the time was, but said there was a clock in the room. I asked about the rooms, and she deflected and asked about where I was staying.
When I went back a few days later for a night shift, the confusion started all over again. I went back with another girl and paid for one song to start, I looked at the clock when we sat down and got up & saw that 11 minutes had passed for a total of 4 songs. The guy said I owed $20 more. With the next girl, it was almost the exact same scenario, but this time 9 minutes and three songs had passed, and the guy said I owed $40 more.
So, bottom line I got dances with 6-8 different girls and still don't know exactly how dances are sold. I don't feel like I was cheated, it just seems unpredictable and that leaves the door open to feeling cheated.
Delilah’s used to right after the pandemic but I don’t recall them doing it more recently, although it’s not something I really care about. I don’t go to Delilah’s much because I’m usually looking for extras and it is cost-prohibitive there if available at all
I agree the pre-pay of $20 to start is not an issue, and I don't even mind squaring up with him at the end instead of the girl. But I didn't like not knowing how much of a bill I was racking up. I probably would have kept going several more songs to make it an even $100, but I was a little worried I was gonna think it was $100 and it was gonna turn out to be $200 or something. At my local clubs, it's by the song and I'm rarely off by more than 1 song or $25 bucks.
@Planetred Just to see if I have this right... So it's $20 just to go into the dance area, not including any actual dances? And then $20, either per song, or per whatever amount of time? And then is it another $20 to the counter guy EVERY time you go back, or just for your FIRST trip into the dance area?
@Manuellabore Thank you for the clarification on ID scanning!
@wallanon yeah, that's why it's not always easy for me to figure out potential destinations just from reading reviews, or just by reading general discussions about the best cities for clubs. If my criteria is a bit different than the usual criteria, it's great when someone can see that and say "this city might be great for you". I guess Philly is kind of in the lead right now. Although I also thought Austin might not be a bad choice for me, but I haven't really got much confirmation one way or the other...