All in favor of two-way blocking comment here

Hell yes you pos you’d be the second one o block

Yes. I believe it was an improvement. Especially from the perspective of dancers preventing unwanted abuse / attention that seems to be inevitable here.

I believe that founder originally put it in place to shield a dancer / escort who attracted a lot of aggressive / toxic attention. I forget her username.

And it worked.

Not in favor of preventing anyone from posting their views - if one does not like someone else's POV, Ignore is perfectly suited for that vs someone dictating who can post

Excellent. Two-way block doesn't stop anyone from posting their views.

Founder already grants certain privileges to dancers that PLs don't have - if he wants to extend that to 2way-blocking just for dancers I'd be ok with that if it was just for the dancers.

"... Two-way block doesn't stop anyone from posting their views ..."

Isn't 2way-blocking if you start a thread you can block someone from posting or even viewing your thread?

That would be a step in the right direction.

But as for the rest of us, when I walk into a bar or any public place, I get to control who I'm going to talk to or be around. Two-way block is essentially that... having control over who gets to interact with you in a gathering place.

If you find yourself unable to see or participate in a large number of TUSCL threads due to site rules, then the problem isn't "censorship" or two-way block.

The problem, most likely, is that you're a dick.

One has a right to disagree with someone's opinion, not like their opinion, and even ignore their opinion - as far as I'm concerned one doesn't have the right to stop someone else from having an opinion.

Papi said "Isn't 2way-blocking if you start a thread you can block someone from posting or even viewing your thread?"

Yes, but you can still create your own threads to express your views, or participate in other threads to express your views. It's not a gag order. But, it does prevent a user from inflicting themselves forcefully into every single dialogue.

"as far as I'm concerned one doesn't have the right to stop someone else from having an opinion."

Excellent. Two-way block doesn't stop anyone from having an opinion.

@Papi it doesn’t stop anyone from having an opinion and even starting their own thread but it prevents the idiots from derailing threads
See if thre was a two way block this jackass wouldn’t have my response to deal with and I’m fine with that

Still not in favor

But I won't block you from having a different POV
😊

Quick comment

^^^ mission accomplished.

Precisely as CIM wrote, it does not prevent you from expressing your opinion. Additionally, it minimizes aggressive or hostile commenting done by other members who are antagonistic towards the OP, and prevents threads from being derailed or drawn off-topic.

Thanks, Steph! At least one of us us literate.

LOL

gammanu95 wrote "Precisely as CIM wrote..."

I don't know who has been spreading that rumor, but it's not true!

Yeah I am definitely in favor.

Or if anyone wants a forum that is actually about strip clubs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/stripclubs/

Sorry, Ish. Clearly I meant you as a donor to willing recipients, not the other way arouns.

Ish you crack me up brutha. Good points too.

It's founder's board and he should do whatever he wants to maximize his earnings.

Last time we discussed this I brought up, as an analogy, the court ruling from July where Trump was prevented from blocking his critics on his Twitter account. Exactly the same issues: Trump pictures his critics as hostile assholes who are getting in the way of his agenda and his critics feel they should have a right to post dissenting opinions. Trump has something like 50 million followers on Twitter -- so using the argument that every private citizen has the right to post on their own Twitter account is complete nonsense.

Two-way blocking keeps minority opinions out of popular threads if the OP doesn't like another poster or doesn't want to be challenged. It's far worse than just having a competent moderator.

As I said it's founder's business and his choice. What separates TUSCL from other forums (like SW) is that we've been free to express are opinions without moderation. Makes it lively and interesting place.

As far as SJG, instead of ignoring him, there are about a dozen users who clearly enjoy humiliating SJG on a nearly daily basis. Some of those guys are in this thread. As I said yesterday, he's clearly got some severe problems and beating the shit out of him every day is the moral equivalent of a crowd beating the shit out of homeless guy for sadistic pleasure.

I used to be in favor of the two way block, but after seeing it in action I see some of random's points. As useful as it was for squelching off topic troll activity, some were starting to use it more broadly than that. As bad as the troll activity is on this board, I am not in favor of squelching the on topic dissenting opinions at will.

RandomMember , some of the trolls are actually pretty fun. But your humor is too dry.

SJG

Of course Random couldn't bring himself to mention that AOC - the future of the Democratic party - blocked her critics on twitter - was sued - said she'd fight it in Court because it was "harrassment" - caved like a bitch, apologized and opened up her page. Have to mention Trump because something that happened less than a week ago must be ignored.

Fuck yes bring back two way block.

^^^^^^^^ Don't trip over your own shoes when you are running to ignore me TFP.

SJG

Haha SJG what a paranoid piece of shit you are. For your information I never even blocked you when when 2 way block was available. I only used it for Iceyloco and his Trapbaby alias.

You, I like to see people roast you daily, but blocking you makes it hard to understand their response fully. So I leave you unblocked so I can see exactly what stupid shit you said to make someone clown you. Seeing you get slam dunked by different folks on a daily basis does indeed make my TUSCL experience that much more enjoyable 😂😂😂

So I guess I should say........thanks? And uh.....keep being a dumbass?

TFP, have you ever considered that you are suffering from Anal-Cranial Inversion?

SJG

Nah, but I know that you are most definitely suffering from mental retardation.

Maybe its just that your head has been shoved up your ass for so long, that your head and your asshole have become one?

SJG

For me, all the broad allusions to greater free speech principles are ridiculous. This is a private board; keeping it at least vaguely on-topic instead of a toxic cesspool that potentially drives people from the site, is what I'd be doing.

That said, for me, the only time recently that the board got to the point that it was basically crippled was, IMO, when the Nicole and Icey trolls were basically dominating every main topic and taking every other thread off-topic, through sheer volume. They're the only ones I ever needed 2-way block for. They're gone, so even if we had it, I'd have no need for it until dougster or whomever gets extra time on his hands and fires up more high-volume trolls.

I'd strongly prefer standard moderation -- a short clear set of rules (e.g., "if you post a political thread anywhere but political, 1st offense is 1 week ban, 2nd offense is lifetime ban" "Everyone who joins SJG's organization gets 50% off VIP" etc.) that are enforced. Yes, I know, never happen. But you asked. (okay, you didn't, but I told you anyway)

Moderation is very time consumptive.

And often, like on TJA, the worst of the trolls are those with moderator powers.

This board has flourished because it has been quite open.

And I see Icey as one of the most valuable and intelligent members of this forum. Hope he returns.

SJG

Also, though Nicole was at times a bit difficult, overall I found her to be highly intelligent and to have some will thought out views which more than not I agreed with. She added a great deal to this forum.

I hope she returns.

For those who do not want to read her, there is always ignore.

SJG

I think it's obvious many on here are jealous of SJG's FRMOS skillz

I'm amazed that the library lets him sit at one kiosk for so long. Most have time limits.

Ishamel, do you not understand how to use ignore?

Or where you just born to be a troll?

SJG

I’m a big fan of the two way block. Would like it back. That said I always will respond if someone responds to my posts and I never look at the board without logging in. Therefore, if you post or respond to me and I don’t respond it’s because I think you’re such a dickhead that I blocked you.

Do you not know how to use ignore?

This forum has flourished because people have not run into blocking.

SJG

sjg, founder isn't going to apply any moderation here. He isn't for moderation and has the same lack of care as to whether an on-topic forum would help or hurt this site as many here. Hell, even 2-way blocking was too much. So don't worry, your topics are safe!

Paul, if you don't mind me asking, how many members do you have, and how did you recruit them?

I have always found it to be very hard to recruit members, and let along active members, to any kind of a forum.

SJG

SJG said "I have always found it to be very hard to recruit members, and let along active members, to any kind of a forum."

Step 1. Don't be creepy as fuck.

Step 2. Don't wear your crazy pants with a belt and suspenders.

It's Reddit, you tit. You don't recruit members. They search forums based on their interests.

I've been in other things like that, tried to get members, watched others try to get members, still very hard.

SJG

So @Ishmael? @Supra? If this is such a toxic dump why are you still here? There's SW and @Paul's competing forum. There you can stay on topic.

SJG tell you what. I can see you're in that autistic loop mode you enter where you have to get the last word in, even if it's just some shitty insult. So here's what I'll do. I'll wait until after 8pm when the prison, mental institution, local library or wherever you get your free WiFi from shuts down. Then I'll post my insult. That way, we won't get a response from you till next day between 12-2pm/whenever you find a free computer terminal. We'll keep the insult posts to a minimum😅😅😅😅

😂😂😂

There is no such thing as Autism, its just a concept from the Eugenics Movement, kept in circulation now in the service of NeoLiberalism, and used to justify the abuse of children and adults.

For some reason you just want to be a troll. This venue allows it. But in a f2f venue you would not get to do any such thing.

SJG

"There is no such thing as Autism, its just a concept from the Eugenics Movement"

Hello in there, SJG. Tell me, what color is the sky in your world?

You apes are so sensitive. Ten percent of TUSCL posts are “I don’t like this or that thing that this or that idiot wrote. I’m triggered. Wah, wah, wah” Frickin snowflakes!

Just like all of your “political” posts. Now the erudite discourse on the deep philosophical position that “u are a poopyhead becuz u disagree wit me” is segregated in another discussion room. Except for the times that certain posters think the sunrise is conspiracy involving the Illuminati and Hunter Biden and freak out!

Heh...heh...heh!

You know how ricks deal with people posting shit they don’t like? ricks put posts in two categories. Either they are not worth any time or the poster deserves the wildebeest treatment. Don’t be a damn pussy; be decisive and put shit into those categories.

Okay, okay...I admit that I have a third category: “this poster is funny, like a clown, so I’ll encourage more clownish behavior.” Admit it, you have that category too...

Come on, admit it! ROAR!!!

You want to get rid of trolls? Stop feeding them. It's that fucking simple. 95%-99% of the most prolific posters here either are trolls or engage with them directly, hell there's a good chance a fair amount of the time it's both (a "legit" poster interacting with him/herself with two accounts.) Many of those same people cry about the amount of trolling. A troll doesn't derail a thread when the legitimate posters simply ignore those comments. They get derailed when "legitimate" posters engage in the back and forth.

Icey/Nicole clogged up the board, yet many of the posters in this thread interacted with them long after their intentions were clear. Reminds me of people who toss their dog scraps from the dinner table because it's begging, then complain that it begs at the dinner table. Sometimes you're entertained by your dogs company while you eat, fine go ahead and feed it. Don't turn around a cry because it begs when you want to eat in peace. You want it to stop, don't toss it another thing and it'll stop. It's not the dogs fault, it's yours.

^ really how about those attack posters that continues to attack even if you refuse to respond the OP here is one of them

I am gonna block MackTruck

This board has flourished because it has been very open, egalitarian, and because it respects anonymity.

SJG

I wasn’t here when that blocking was in effect, but I can see founder’s point on this one.

Maybe I’ve just got a thicker skin than most.

Watching your father being called baby killer and then not beating the shit out of the asshole who did it was a powerful lesson.

"The Ricks" area pefect example of a useless piece of shit nothing having a voice.

This board has flourished because it has been very open, egalitarian, and because it respects anonymity.

Ignore and Thread Ignore should be enough. And then also there are the VIP and Verified Rooms if people want a more civil environment. They could also use a gmail account to make their own blogspot. Or they could follow PaulDrake and use Reddit to start their own message board.

SJG

... or you could be less of a loying, ignoirant, useless cum stain SJG. Just a thought.

^^^^^ You could decide to accept differing views, instead of making the nursing home staff funnel prune juice into you.

SJG

Once again, poor poor skifredo is being the biggest most delicate snowflake in the world. “Wah wah, the lion said mean things about me.” “Wah wah, the San Jose Ape said something I don’t like.” “Wah wah, progressives think I’m stupid.”

I have news for you skifredo, it isn’t just progressives that think you’re stupid. ROAR!!!

Stupid Jerkoff Guy spewed this nonsense: You could decide to accept differing views

After threatening those who’s opinion differs from his with death.

A few months ago, I would have been vehemently support the return of blocking. I've started to see founder's point lately though.

Plus, there's the schadenboner I get from watching people's heads explode.

For those of you who haven't been around as long as I have, there was an amusing period several years back when the OP ( @GammaNu ) was calling one of our most interesting and literate dancers a "porch monkey." We had ignore back then -- and you would think that she would use the that feature to avoid the harassment from another male poster. After all, ignore should be there to protect the helpless dancers. Right?

However, being more than able to defend herself, she didn't use ignore and instead basically eviscerated the OP and made him look like a fool and a pussy. I recall distinctly that @GammaNu then put her on ignore instead of the other way around. Like a pussy, @GammaNu attacked a dancer, got the equivalent of a 12-inch dildo rammed up his ass, then retreated behind ignore. He comes out behind the curtain every once of a while to spew a little venom. Now he's advocating for two-way block in three separate threads.

I've already stated my opinion. I think two-blocking would fracture this small group into another 50 separate factions resulting in a less interesting forum.

Let me set the records straight, as RandomLoser is either lying as usual or has recall as poor as his intellect.

It was 25IQ whom I called a porch monkey. Little did I know he was some homeless, dejected, 80 year old white SJW whose family has deserted him. I called NinaBambin an ignorant slut. All she could do was her usual blustering, as she spun her fantasy about earning three degrees on some 8-year college plan.

RandomLoser is still fapping to Rachel Maddow, his ideal female, despite her being outed as the premiere left media conspiracy theory lunatic.

I remember you compared @Nina to some blackface stereotype and implied she was a welfare queen with 12 kids.

But I noticed that you didn't contradict my main point -- which is that you retreated behind ignore, you hypocritical dumbfuck.

here is a pm I recieved from our op yesterday afternoon

gammanu95



Yesterday

>Thank you so much for explaining exactly what kind of trolling behavior upsets you the most. You will be happy to know that I have taken you off ignore so that I kind troll and belittle everything. you. write. God bless.<

my reply to the moron was

your point is ?

He has a long history of race-baiting and then hiding behind ignore when he's called out.

^The OP bores the fuck out of me what a pathetic guy, remember he supposedly is married to a medical doctor who is from Latin America and couldn't get her MD an accredited, so she works as a PA, he's supposedly owns a parcel of land in the Fort Meyers area, and is some kind of a business owner, whom no one has ever met.

If I am hiding behind ignore, how is it I'm still pulling your strings? You are wrong as usual, RandomLoser.

As for 25IQ, your jealousy is music to my ears. You can hate me all I want, but here are some indisputable facts: I am married to a Medical Doctor. She graduated from Brown, where we met, interned and completed her residency at Gainesville, and is a fully licensed and board-certified MD. I do own multiple parcels of land around SWFL. I have started my third business, having sold the first two. BTW, you have met me, and you never even knew it.

Guys, I know your lives suck. I know that coming on here to blow each other and hate on me is the highlight of your day. It is an enjoyable diversion to come on here for few moments to take a break and string you along.

@GammaNut:"If I am hiding behind ignore, how is it I'm still pulling your strings? You are wrong as usual, RandomLoser."

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I didn't say you're hiding behind ignore NOW. I said that you race-baited Nina in the past (with reference to blackface / welfare queen) and put her on ignore after she ripped you a new asshole. Here's a funny old thread YOU started about all the trolls that are persecuting you and why you had to put them on ignore:

https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

You can't seem to understand that you're a racist troll yourself. That makes you a fucking hypocrite for leading the charge for two-way blocking.

What an obnoxious post @GammaNu. Would you like me to trot out the academic credentials of myself and my family? Go ahead and PM me.

I don't think two way blocking is a good idea. Better that this forum stay open.

And the chance to read the reviews does motivate people to write reviews and articles, and to pay.

SJG