Timing of club visits vs. those in reviews

We need go encourage more non-douchebags to post here. tuscl.net

^ Case in point. Doctor likes to do 15 minute daytime stops in dead clubs in suburban bedroom communities and then trash them in reviews. That's assuming he goes in at all of course because he has no qualms about writing a review based upon a parking lot stop. And when he can't do that, he spends his time trolling on a site like this using his own satirical thread. 😉

But of course most guys don't behave like Doctor, which is exactly the point, yet weird ass dudes like him are over-represented in our reviews. Most guys visit clubs at night and have daytime obligations. They are not weird day stop guys who drink cokes ITC and troll an Internet forum sporting a weird avatar from the 80s that screams "takes it up the ass" - at least when his ass was young enough to handle it.

No offense to anyone here except for doctordipshit. Maybe it is just natural for retirees to have more free time to write reviews and such. But I do hope that we can find a way to beef up our night time representation on this board.

My contractor friend stops at clubs for lunch and when he gets done early with a job. Also, I know some guys who travel for sales calls will detour their route to a club.

Wow, seems like I touched a nerve. Or maybe the Douchebag is off his meds today. Maybe both judging from the hysterical tone of his post. I wonder if he took me off ignore now that the two way block is gone, or if he is still going offline or using another alias to stalk me. At least he’s saved up enough testosterone to post his own comments about me instead of sending them through his butt buddy. tuscl.net

And the Douchebag is the guy who likes to hang out in dive bars wearing a suit pretending to be a chemical engineer, but I’m the “weird ass dude.” Thanks, Douchebag. I needed a laugh today.

Yup, not being able to block trolls from a thread is really working out well. 😉

===> "My contractor friend stops at clubs for lunch and when he gets done early with a job. Also, I know some guys who travel for sales calls will detour their route to a club."

Fair enough KG. Also, I don't want to discount the Happy Hour crowd either, which picks up in a few clubs in my local area. But outside of urban areas, most clubs are simply dead during the day and don't pick up until people return from work, eat dinner and maybe change.

I am a regular working stiff, so virtually all of my reviews are night visits on Friday and Saturdays when I don't have to get up for work the following morning. I learned long ago that going in at lunch or early afternoon was not worth the time investment due to most clubs being so slow. I always wonder why some clubs open so early and only have one or two dancers working and one or two customers present. It just seems like it doesn't justify the overhead.

This is an illustration that it really does matter where you club, in this area there are a few clubs that have better day & mid shifts than nights

@25, but most areas aren't like SE Florida, with tourists and a heavy concentration of retirees, including snowbirds.

^ True, but still there are some areas here that match your club habits, but I think you’d find them much faster paced than the rest of the country. I mean by that hit E11even on a weekend late or some of those others, like after midnight at Tootsies or Scarlett, it’s not an enjoyable experience for me.

I suspect that most of the guys who care enough about strip clubs to write and post reviews are going to be older and more prone to day shift visits.

I agree with your observation, but I'm not sure there's any way to fix it.

I tend to visit my local club at lunchtime because it's an easy drive from my work and the talent on the lunch shift has been pretty good lately. I like that the club is less crowded then and the girls will sit and talk to you without pushing for a dance right away. I've tried going after work but the talent level really drops off after 3pm. I go occasionally at night when the talent level picks back up but I find I prefer the lunch shift. I'm more likely to visit clubs at night when I'm traveling for work.

I am one of the old retired farts. I find that I can get away in the afternoon now and then to visit clubs. Nights are harder to justify being away from home although it can occasionally happen. I have written reviews of two clubs both daytime visits. If you guys that want to see more nighttime reviews then write them.

The earliest I've been to a SC is 7pm and that club was dead (in the midst of a shift change).

So when I read reviews about a visit at 12pm and the surprise that it was slow and only one or two dancers were there, I think doesn't everyone know SCs are slow in the morning, what a waste of a review, and a waste of a visit.

I guess if you wake up at 4am without an alarm clock, going to a SC at 12pm is not that early.

The only people out at night are the law and the outlaw. Which one or you Rick Dugan?

I agree with Rick's basic premise. Among the general population, on average, strip clubs are busier at night. On TUSCL, the review counts skew significantly towards the day shift.

I think there are a number of reasons for this. The one 25 pointed out I think is very applicable to me, since we're in the same area. But I think the larger reason is that while the majority of strip clubbers are casual ones, not the type who read/write reviews or discuss strip clubbing on a website. They're the type who are sitting at a regular bar getting shot down by civies or at a house party that that they realized is a sausage fest, then decide to hit up a titty bar.

So again, while I agree with the premise that Ricks premise that there is a bit of a mismatch between TUSCL's reviews vs visits in general, I think TUSCL's review timings do align to TUSCL's general membership. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think the majority of "hardcore" SC's include dayshift or even prefer dayshift, regardless of age.

For me personally, I'm under 40, but I still do most of SC'ing during the day. I won't get into why I prefer to do it during the day, but I do. My work & personal situation allow me the flexibility to go during the day, I'm not an old retired fart.

Don’t belittle us old retired farts. We have earned our grey beards and our lust for pretty young things.

Rick, I haven't noticed a daytime review bias in the clubs that I go to (i.e., majority or a very large plurality of reviews are daytime.) Although the first Mons Venus review page (12 reviews) was 50/50 day vs night.

I think you may have just goaded me into suggesting another website redesign for Founder to tinker with. I propose that by time of visit, place a big colored dot or triangle with yellow denoting day hours, blue denoting evening hours, and black denoting post midnight hours. That makes for a quicker scan. Of course I'd leave the printed hours after the color coded dot for the benefit of Tuscl members who might be color blind from jacking off to too much porn.

I'm not going to defend myself or any of the other seniors on here. We don't have to. One thing that could satisfy Rick's demise is a slight change in review format.

In unpublished reviews the time of visit comes before the text portion but after it is approved and published the text comes first. Even I would like to see the time of visit first.

===> "I'm not going to defend myself or any of the other seniors on here. We don't have to."

Nor do I believe that you need to. I can only hope that I have the same stamina and resilience when I hit my geriatric years, assuming I make it that long.

This was more of a general observation about the dynamic of site participation. I don't want less senior citizen participation here - the more the merrier - just more of the younger crowd to round things out.

Seems for many married SCers, dayshift is more-doable, if not the only option for them (except maybe when the wife might be outta town)

I would assume clubs with a high # of dayshift reviews are in the minority (e.g. Follies, Inner Room).

Even if there are a high # of dayshift reviews for a club I don't necessarily think that's a negative - one could assume a club with a popular dayshift is a good club all around with also a good nightshift.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to display the day & time in the "Quick View" display format, and also move it from the bottom to the top in the "Full View" display format

One popular NJ club I visit, girls have to work nights for years on a waiting list to work the holy grail noon - 5 shift. Day shift girls in this club are in VIP literally for 3-4 hours out of their 5 hour shift. Some days you can’t even get a seat at the bar. However, this club is an exception to the rule. Usually guys are in and out in under 30 minutes. Popular lunch time stop.

^ why not just mention the club.

I assume you're talking about Playhouse.

@Papi I also recognized he was talking about Playhouse as soon as he mentioned the scenario. He probably didn't mention the name because he assumed a lot of people might not know or care about what exact club he was describing. It was more about describing the odd setup. With most clubs, night shift is the coveted money making time slot. Take LV Spearmint Rhino for example. To get that 9pm-2am time slot I hear you have to be the hottest of the hot. Especially on Friday and Saturday night. At Playhouse however, it's reversed. 9pm-2am isn't the popular shift, 12pm-5pm is the desired shift.

Although from the recent reports that place is going downhill fast.

"Sometimes I have to scroll down several reviews before getting to a night visit. I also suspect that this odd situation skews ratings in favor of clubs with better dayshifts."

I don't think this skews ratings. If a club is open in the afternoon, reviews of the afternoon shift are essential. They reflect the total club. If a club has good reviews of the afternoon, this is important to know. If you only go at night, you can focus on night reviews in your decisions.

We geriatric types spend our money and get to review the clubs as we want.

Anything that's not in accordance to Rick's individual POV "skews the results"

There’s a simple solution. The only reviews that should be approved are those from RickDugan. That way, we’d know that reviews were done properly. This might slightly reduce the popularity of TUSCL but that’s unimportant relative to the need to doing things the RickDugan way.

Reviews should have the "white-3-piece-suit seal of approval" in order for them to be published

I’m not sure I agree with the premise that it’s 50% more reviews for daytime. Maybe you in Florida that’s why you’re seeing that. Most of the reviews I see are by random people that don’t post on the board. Those reviews are indeed at night.

Well I tend to go later at night so if you're looking at Louisville clubs you might see a few more to your liking. lol

Tell the truth rickdugan. You think being trolled is just brilliant!

After all, why else would you respond to doctorevil calling you a d-bag? I would think that any successful faux chemical engineer who engages in the activities you claim to engage in would be happy with his life.

And somebody who is happy with his life wouldn’t be bothered by being called a d-bag by a random internet guy that you’ve never met. But I guess I’m wrong about that because the opinions of strangers who post on a web site for deviants clearly mean a lot to you! ;)

===> "Anything that's not in accordance to Rick's individual POV "skews the results"" ===> "Reviews should have the "white-3-piece-suit seal of approval" in order for them to be published"

C'mon now Papi, I only meant from a purely statistical and timing standpoint. I was not targeting any one particular club, especially not one in Dallas. 😉

Reviews and ratings that are mostly derived from dayshift are going to be naturally skewed to reflect conditions at that time, including lower daytime prices, less hustle and other factors. It doesn't take a Fields medal winner to figure this one out.

Hm, it may very well be TUSCL has skewness issues?

Would you also like to go on Stripperweb and chastise the dancers for overepresenting upscale and/or busy clubs? Perhaps there should be more ladies there just like the type who would work at Lollipops in Hudson Fl.

I think it's Dugan's brain that's skewed

I wonder how much the D-Bag’s reviews have skewed the BDD ratings, I mean with him being a “certified super-reviewer” and all.

I’ve only done about 17 reviews in last 8 months, but all have been night visits. Mainly weeknights as I don’t often get to Club on weekends. I think if a club is good on the weeknights, then they are likely good on the weekends as well.

I take the time of day into account when I read reviews, but my main use for reviews is a club is generally either good or bad. From my experience on day vs night visits, I just pay more attention on night shift because the girls tend to be more of party barbie variety.

I am good with day and evening reviews. I travel a lot and just never know when mongering time is available. Some jernts the day shift is better, some the evening is better. Some it doesn't matter. So I am glad there is a mix of reviews so I can plan/explore as time permits. In general day shifts include less BS for what ever reason. It just depends on what you are looking for. The chase of the night shift can be just as fun.

I am almost exclusively a daytime going guy for at least a dozen good (to me) reasons. And I work mostly days.

Sometimes I have to scroll down a dozen or more reviews to find the daytime reviews and I’m really annoyed by this.

I think tuscl reviews are seriously skewed toward night time clubbers cause most of the reviews are from the late night weekend crowd so I think tuscl should advertise in AARP to get more octogenarians involved.

Seriously though, the reviews for any one club represent, on average, the cross section of tusclers that frequent said club. If there are lots of daytime reviews then that mostly means that there is a strong day shift. If that doesn’t fit your desired info then find a different source of information. Rick doesn’t get to change this web site to match his desired makeup but he can go start his own. In fact I encourage it.

I feel the love on this website!!!❤️

More times than not I try to visit strip clubs for a long period of hours because they are so friggin far away from where I am hanging out. The city of industry clubs are sometimes an hour and a half to two hours away depending on the traffic. and Tijuana is 2 1/2 hours away if there’s no traffic. like this last Friday I looked at the roster of one of the clubs in city of industry and I saw the name of one of the girls (that is now a rare show) so I got there at 3 PM after a hour and a half drive.

So I stayed almost 12 hours in the city of industry at two of my favored clubs in the USA.

and when I go to Tijuana... i usually go for two or three days spending up to 20 hours in the clubs of Zona Norte per day.

rickdugan, I think you are exaggerating the issue. As usual, you haven’t thought carefully about the potential set of biases.

All review sites suffer from something called “ascertainment bias”. I know that is a big word, so I’ll explain it to using Yelp restaurant reviews as an example.

On average, people who post Yelp reviews are more irritating to the wait staff than people who don’t post Yelp reviews. When the wait staff are irritated they are more likely to add boogers and cum to food. This means that the reviews you read on Yelp aren’t reviews of the average meal you are going to get if you show up. No, they are reviews of the average meal you are going to get if you show up and act like a jerk (but you wouldn’t know anything about that, would you?)

Here is what you don’t understand. If you take food from a Michelin starred restaurant and add a soupçon of boogers and cum, it is still better food than McD’s with boogers and cum. Perhaps there is the oddball case where food is improved by boogers and cum, but those are rare.

The upshot: the Yelp reviews are still correlated with food quality, despite the prodigious amounts of boogers and cum consumed by the reviewers.

It works the same way for TUSCL; you just need to substitute different bodily fluids. Isn’t that brilliant?