IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DATE/MANAGE STRIPPERS: HONEST ADVICE THAT WORKS
Icey
- There are always exceptions to rules………but.................
- Looks matter. If she isn't the type of bitch who would go out with you in every day life, then a stripper bitch is definitely not going to date you. You need realistic expectations. Fortunately, if you’re ugly you can work on your body.
- Your bitches are a direct reflection of who you are as a man. Respect is everything.
- Strippers are always fucked up in some way. If you want a house in the suburbs and a white picket fence and live happily ever after in your vanilla world, forget about strippers.
- Don’t give a fuck if she’s single or not. It doesn’t matter now a days.
- Act confident. By that I mean be direct about what you want and always back your words up with actions. Consistency in your words and actions makes you look confident and gains her trust. This in turn makes her more submissive. This consistency is what gets her addicted to you.
- You're going to have to spend money. It will get her attention and make her notice you ITC. Don't get dances though. Learn shit like making flowers and hearts out of bills and give her a few hundred dollar bills just because. These bitches associate everything with money. Their self worth is linked to how much money they get for their looks. Affection, happiness, anything positive, its expressed with money. Its just how the stripper life is. These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it. She will accept everything. Whats different when she likes you is her reaction to it. She’s gon feel special and treat you like a king, start doing shit for you in return. Ie buy you groceries, clean your place, cook for you, do her hair and nails how you want them, dress like you want her to, shes going to want to share shit like that with you. But remember, this is a very temporary stage. The goal is to get her interested enough to get hooked, eventually she’ll be the one giving you money cos she’s just going to associate it with her liking you and that’s how she expresses it. The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular.
- Never be a trick. If you pay her for sex with money or pay her for dances regularly, she will never respect you. You’re paying her to provide what a man should be able to get without paying for it like that. A lap dance here and there is OK, even a VIP room session. But it should never be a regular thing. Its desperation and that makes you weak in her eyes. You want to spend money being a provider and making her feel secure. Not being a trick.
- Never approach her like a customer. Tell her you like her ambition. That you love the way her eyes light up when she sees that $$$ but its cool cos you love fast money too. Tell her that her hustle turns you on cos its so cute and then give her some tips. Show her you’re a bigger hustler than her. Tell her she missed out on tips by not paying attention to someone at the stage, or how some guy was checking her out and she missed the $$$, that she shouldn’t get lazy and needs to be on top of her game. Make her see that if she gets with you she can be on a winning team. Be supportive of her grind and hustle and make her see its part of your vision and dreams with her. Trying to change her or make her quit her hustle is the worst thing you can do at this point.
- Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her. Downers, weed and coke are OK, they won’t kill you. Personally, I’d stay away from crack unless its just a diablito. I’d never get involved with someone on heroin, meth, crack or anything that’s going to make her looks go downhill fast. Its in your best interest to take control of her drug use from the start. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up.
- Focus on how you make her feel. Make her associate positive experiences with spending time with you. The best scenario is if you’re hard and she knows you intimidate people, but treat her really well. Make people afraid of you, but make her laugh. Be very unpredictable. Do shit at the last minute, don’t plan, Never ask her to do shit. Tell her to do it.
- Notice the pattern. Its about control. You want her to feel comfortable with you. The more comfortable you make her, the more control she gives you. She doesn’t have any control in her life and wants you to fill that void.
- Get her out of the club ASAP!!!! I can’t stress this one enough!!! This move always works for me but I can be pretty charming. After establishing a connection, whether her liking the way I look, drugs, $$$ anything I tell her I’ll take care of her for the night and ask her to tip out and leave the club with me. If she isn’t allowed, I tell her I’ll come back when her shift ends. Have her drug of choice or know where to get it. If she isn’t leaving work early, don’t give her any money. Make it last as long as you can, get high, fuck, get something to eat, whatever. Flirt with her, make have a great time. Keep up the pressure and get her to see you again really soon. If she doesn’t want to leave with you on the first try, then try one more time. If she doesn’t do it then, then fuck it and move on.
- Disappear for a while after making her feel like a queen and bringing some excitement to her life. Remember most strippers lead very boring lives cos of the hours they work and their bad habits. She’s going to miss you and think she did something wrong to make you leave. During that time, it helps if she finds out that you have side bitches. Her instincts will kick in.
- Don’t be afraid to discipline her. Eventually you’ll have to. Be manipulative with her feelings. When that works it means you have her mind and her heart. If you beat her she’ll just be afraid of you. That’s a bitch move unless you really have to. If she fucks with your main bitch keys your car gets violent with you, then slap the shit out of her. One of the best ways to fuck with her is to make sure she knows you have side bitches.
- Use sex as a reward. Fuck her to fuck with her. Make her nights to let her know she’s being a good girl. If she pisses you off or does stupid shit make it clear that your side bitches will be the ones who get fucked and get to suck your dick, not her.
- She’s not happy with herself and never satisfied, she’s always looking for a quick fix and fast satisfaction. You have to be a few steps ahead of her and make sure you fulfil her needs for constant stimulation so that she has no reason to stray. The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life. Its what these bitches crave. She doesn’t have any control in her life so she’s going to give it to you. If you don’t take control she’s gon be a loose cannon, spend all of her and your money on drugs and stupid shit, get all self destructive.
- Looks matter. If she isn't the type of bitch who would go out with you in every day life, then a stripper bitch is definitely not going to date you. You need realistic expectations. Fortunately, if you’re ugly you can work on your body.
- Your bitches are a direct reflection of who you are as a man. Respect is everything.
- Strippers are always fucked up in some way. If you want a house in the suburbs and a white picket fence and live happily ever after in your vanilla world, forget about strippers.
- Don’t give a fuck if she’s single or not. It doesn’t matter now a days.
- Act confident. By that I mean be direct about what you want and always back your words up with actions. Consistency in your words and actions makes you look confident and gains her trust. This in turn makes her more submissive. This consistency is what gets her addicted to you.
- You're going to have to spend money. It will get her attention and make her notice you ITC. Don't get dances though. Learn shit like making flowers and hearts out of bills and give her a few hundred dollar bills just because. These bitches associate everything with money. Their self worth is linked to how much money they get for their looks. Affection, happiness, anything positive, its expressed with money. Its just how the stripper life is. These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it. She will accept everything. Whats different when she likes you is her reaction to it. She’s gon feel special and treat you like a king, start doing shit for you in return. Ie buy you groceries, clean your place, cook for you, do her hair and nails how you want them, dress like you want her to, shes going to want to share shit like that with you. But remember, this is a very temporary stage. The goal is to get her interested enough to get hooked, eventually she’ll be the one giving you money cos she’s just going to associate it with her liking you and that’s how she expresses it. The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular.
- Never be a trick. If you pay her for sex with money or pay her for dances regularly, she will never respect you. You’re paying her to provide what a man should be able to get without paying for it like that. A lap dance here and there is OK, even a VIP room session. But it should never be a regular thing. Its desperation and that makes you weak in her eyes. You want to spend money being a provider and making her feel secure. Not being a trick.
- Never approach her like a customer. Tell her you like her ambition. That you love the way her eyes light up when she sees that $$$ but its cool cos you love fast money too. Tell her that her hustle turns you on cos its so cute and then give her some tips. Show her you’re a bigger hustler than her. Tell her she missed out on tips by not paying attention to someone at the stage, or how some guy was checking her out and she missed the $$$, that she shouldn’t get lazy and needs to be on top of her game. Make her see that if she gets with you she can be on a winning team. Be supportive of her grind and hustle and make her see its part of your vision and dreams with her. Trying to change her or make her quit her hustle is the worst thing you can do at this point.
- Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her. Downers, weed and coke are OK, they won’t kill you. Personally, I’d stay away from crack unless its just a diablito. I’d never get involved with someone on heroin, meth, crack or anything that’s going to make her looks go downhill fast. Its in your best interest to take control of her drug use from the start. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up.
- Focus on how you make her feel. Make her associate positive experiences with spending time with you. The best scenario is if you’re hard and she knows you intimidate people, but treat her really well. Make people afraid of you, but make her laugh. Be very unpredictable. Do shit at the last minute, don’t plan, Never ask her to do shit. Tell her to do it.
- Notice the pattern. Its about control. You want her to feel comfortable with you. The more comfortable you make her, the more control she gives you. She doesn’t have any control in her life and wants you to fill that void.
- Get her out of the club ASAP!!!! I can’t stress this one enough!!! This move always works for me but I can be pretty charming. After establishing a connection, whether her liking the way I look, drugs, $$$ anything I tell her I’ll take care of her for the night and ask her to tip out and leave the club with me. If she isn’t allowed, I tell her I’ll come back when her shift ends. Have her drug of choice or know where to get it. If she isn’t leaving work early, don’t give her any money. Make it last as long as you can, get high, fuck, get something to eat, whatever. Flirt with her, make have a great time. Keep up the pressure and get her to see you again really soon. If she doesn’t want to leave with you on the first try, then try one more time. If she doesn’t do it then, then fuck it and move on.
- Disappear for a while after making her feel like a queen and bringing some excitement to her life. Remember most strippers lead very boring lives cos of the hours they work and their bad habits. She’s going to miss you and think she did something wrong to make you leave. During that time, it helps if she finds out that you have side bitches. Her instincts will kick in.
- Don’t be afraid to discipline her. Eventually you’ll have to. Be manipulative with her feelings. When that works it means you have her mind and her heart. If you beat her she’ll just be afraid of you. That’s a bitch move unless you really have to. If she fucks with your main bitch keys your car gets violent with you, then slap the shit out of her. One of the best ways to fuck with her is to make sure she knows you have side bitches.
- Use sex as a reward. Fuck her to fuck with her. Make her nights to let her know she’s being a good girl. If she pisses you off or does stupid shit make it clear that your side bitches will be the ones who get fucked and get to suck your dick, not her.
- She’s not happy with herself and never satisfied, she’s always looking for a quick fix and fast satisfaction. You have to be a few steps ahead of her and make sure you fulfil her needs for constant stimulation so that she has no reason to stray. The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life. Its what these bitches crave. She doesn’t have any control in her life so she’s going to give it to you. If you don’t take control she’s gon be a loose cannon, spend all of her and your money on drugs and stupid shit, get all self destructive.
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last commentPhatBoy99 - troll status incredibly likely
Strippers live by a different set of rules. But when it's all said and done, shes still a women dont lose sight of that.
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Stripping is just a good paying job to a lot of women, better than WalMart, for a wife\mother.
That said, plenty are screwed up and will always be.
The best place to meet and hang possibly start a relationship is definitely not the club they work.
Hang out at ur local after hours clubs, u know, they open at 2 a.m..........full of bar workers off duty, and yes, plenty of off duty strippers.
This advice is similar to giving advice on how to get free meals at restaurants by faking a heart-attack - sure I guess it can work from time to time but most people are not gonna bother to go thru all that trouble "to get a free meal".
For most guys it's not worth all that to get some free pussy and even less are they into manipulating women in order to get $$$ from them - most guys on here can stand on their own two feet and make their own $$$ w/o a need or desire to engage in all that BS.
No thanks. I’ll be fine just paying them when they leave.
PhatBoy99 said "Get a life, you'd never say this shit to my face."
... who is starting to sound like a another twat, SJG.
PhatBoy99 said: "If she fucks with your main bitch keys your car gets violent with you, then slap the shit out of her."
I don't think you're a real person doing these things, but I still think you should be thrown into a tire fire for this sort of trolling.
I made it clear that there are exceptions to the rules, but this strategy will usually work. Could also be my target demographic. Young Latinas and Black girls who are into hip hop and have a little hood to them.
Its not a strategy to use on everyone you like, but if a bitch really catches your eye and you know you want more from her that bad, its worth it.
Its how I got the bitches Im with now. It doesn't take long for them to get hooked on you but that comes from making them feel some kind of way. Its hard for them to be made to feel that way so they do their best to show appreciation for what you give them.
Ive used it to make bitches fall so hard, like one threatened suicide when I ignored her for a while, faked a pregnancy for my attention. Another is just 18 and never questions anything I say or do and does everything I tell her to. My main bitch already wants to have my baby.
There's nothing wrong for them wanting to help you for helping them or showing affection.
One of the best strip club experiences you could ever have is walking in and have her eyes light up when she sees you and she starts counting money in front of you. Then after you get her out of the club, she holds it up to your nose and it smells like her pussy, she puts your hand on her pussy and tells you its all yours.
Dating them makes you realize they're just like any other bitch. Best part of their work day isnt being with customers or chatting with them, its going home and taking a shower and going to bed. Lots of the bruises you see arent from abusive boyfriends, they're from the pole and dancing. Foot massages are one of the most intimate things you can do for them that they truly appreciate. When they care they don't tell you shit about how you make them wet and how they love dancing for you when you hold them, they tell you how you make them feel safe in your arms like nothing can ever happen if theyre with you.
That's reality.
The real misogyny and manipulation comes when you allow yourself to become a trick and use money to turn her into a set of holes to stick your dick in. Then you suffer cos theres no respect for you and you catch feelings.
I just put this out here for anyone who wants to date strippers to use cos it works.
Whether or not the guys are bout that life doesn't matter, cos the strippers are and thats how you get them.
Also some of it is universal advice, like creating attraction and using feelings to bond so she wants and misses you.
But that said I know other strippers at her same club that have a "boyfriend" like you. What you are saying has limited application.
And seriously, don't hit a woman.
What he's not covering is that a lot of strippers don't like or want anything to do with his type and the downsides of it. For every stripper he "develops" to fit this model, there's one that wants completely out of it because she knows she's in an abusive relationship.
I don't think the type of club matters. Although night shift is your best bet.
I think the strippers it works easiest on are very young ones who haven't been doing it long. Its an attractive lifestyle to them and they have the most problems working while sober.They're the most attracted to fast money and what they think is an exciting lifestyle. Its like a hip hop video come true for them. Money pussy weed....whatever whenever.
Then there are strippers who feel trapped in shitty relationships and want an exit strategy. These are very easy to get. By being hard on the outside but treating them well, you remind them of their type but the way you treat them and most importantly, what you provide for them will make them compare their man to you. By providing what she wants or needs, and her in turn submitting to you mentally and physically, you get her dependent on you and away from him. At first, its all about what she can gain from you, thats her mentality, by showing her she has a lot to gain from you, she'll submit to you. But the important part is to make sure that you don't just do shit for her, you have to make her feel special and everything he doesn't make her feel, while you're doing it.
I wouldn't waste time on married, older or strung out strippers.
Asians are a tough one. A lot of strippers from Thailand or the Philippines are pros from back there and all about their business. Most are managed by their husbands anyways. I tried with a Korean bitch before but she was too disciplined. They're not worth the energy.
White girls are easy to get the younger they are. But they can be racist, I think its a lot easier for Black men to get the really young ones.
Being Latino, I prefer Latino and also light skinned Black girls. So that's what I go for personally. I think a lot of what gets them comfortable or willing at first is obvious attraction. If you're the type of guy they would normally go for or are the type of guy considered attractive in their world, you already have a foot in.
Obviously, I think the older you are or the more isolated you are from that world, the harder its going to be. If you're a 70 year old white man running this game on an 18 year old Black woman its going to be an uphill battle. Or if you have nothing in common with her, cant cite music, movies tv shows she might like, you can't relate to certain shit growing up in that culture, its going to make it hard to connect.
I think on her part, caring is shown through money, and on your part through asserting control and dominance. It comes down to a man being a man and a woman being a woman. You keep her around by making her feel good about everything and making her need you, not by abusing her.
The kind of shit you’re talking about is fine for drug addicted loser twats, not for the kind of women I date. From the sound of your posts you are mid thirties, I wouldn’t be seen dead with those kind of idiot girls you seem to like, and the women I see both black and white would laugh at you, if you tried to run your pimp shit on them.
That's where the drug use comes in. Drugs are all over strip clubs. You can get anything you want.
Its also where you have to be really careful. Anything too addictive or that affects their looks isn't worth it.
Some guys use access to drugs as a way to control them. Which is a bad idea. Its not a sign of caring or love, thats destroying them and slowly killing them. These guys give them all the shit they want and turn them into strung out whores. The first girl I ever liked ended up like that. I knew her since second grade. Started selling pussy at 17. Overdosed at age 19 and no one gave a fuck.
You can't ask them to quit, but what you can do is make sure their drugs are OK, and limit how much they take and when they take it. With weed its whatever, but you don't want them working when they're faded. With coke you don't want them to get hooked. The worst scenario is if they want to try a new drug and you have feelings for them. You kinda do shit to get her mind off trying it and ignore them. You can also limit the impact of the drugs, just mix a little in with their weed instead of letting them take it straight.
Using drugs with them is one of the biggest bonding experiences.
(at least fer now.)
You're always going to have low class hoes and never make any real money off your bitches cuz real money comes with class, and if you learned how to class your bitches up you'd actually make some real money to retire off of.
But until then you're just a small-town small-time wannabe player.
Como see dicen, mono aunque se Vista de seda, mono see queda
On avg women are about relationships more so than men thus IMO these girls are more vulnerable to falling for hustlers that play on their emotions and insecurities - and playing on anyone's vulnerabilities is not a badge of honor nor "having game", it's being a user.
Twentyfive, so what. I help bitches out too.
there's nothing loser about it. and no need to be so classist
He has a slim chance to educate himself that there are better things in life, but he most likely will never grasp at opportunity because to him it’s not recognized.
From a person married to a stripper.
Word of advice don’t use the information on here.
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Ugh... Welp I'll be praying for you lil homie. You need it.
If you're have to be uppity then you have no clue how to be classy. 702? You must be out in Henderson or some other BFE. Jesus you really have no clue what class is
You know damn well if you had this type of bitch at your disposal willing to do anything for you wishing she was your main bitch you'd be more than happy
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Im not ashamed of being Mexican.
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Vicente Fox is Mexican. He should be your role model.
Get some class. Respect your heritage
did you call that trash Mexican music, even though real Mexicans, classy Mexicans listen to this shit I just listed.
Your a naco
Other than attacking me for being Mexican and talking shit about types of bitches you could never get, you haven't added anything to the conversation about getting strippers.
Here's some real shit, you gotta try being bout this life
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Real Mexicans listen to:
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And international
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I'll give PhatBoy99 the benefit of the doubt. In my experience I have seen his type and his type of stripper at some clubs over the years. It's not prevalent, but it's out there. At a club my ATF DS used to work at there were two stripper-escorts that had "boyfriends" that would drop them off and pick them up and occasionally come into the club. One of them was for sure strung out and just a wreck and the other was hot but also a hard ass bitch. She would always try to get me to get dances with her behind my ATF DS's back. I think her "boyfriend" expected a nightly quota so she was always trying to hustle.
Papi said "what you're describing is about how to be ghetto-fabulous and is akin to bragging about being the tallest midget"
Nailed it.
DC9428 - The point of the advice is how to get strippers to be with you without having any kind of customer relationship with them. Where you take it once you have her is up to you. Once she's yours, do what you want....marry, date, whatever. I don't know about it being "toxic" but it can get passionate. You're going to get that with Latinas whether they're strippers or not. And its not about manipulating them, its about strategies that engage their interest enough for you to work your charm on them. My own personal goal is to marry my main bitch. That would be my dream. Of course strippers can have compassion and dreams and be great people. They're just like anyone else when it comes to feelings.Strip clubs are toxic places and you have to deal with how that affects bitches. The way you get them to fall head over heels for you isnt by manipulating them, its about engaging them on their level and being what they miss in their lives and what brings out the best in them. But you cant be a captain save a ho, you have to work with whats there and encourage them to be the best they can even if that best is fucked up.
MisterWonderful - We all have our tastes...
Subraman - You go on every thread, even ones I dont post in and attack me and call me a troll just cos you dont understand where Im coming from and cant get past your tunnel vision of what the world is like. It takes all kinds, deal with it. My advice about spending money is accurate. Do you want someone to go to your job and make you stop working and take up your attention so you dont get paid? You cant ignore money in a strip club cos thats all its about. PUAs are pussies who beg and whine drunk bitches at clubs to fuck them then date rape them. Im talking about something completely different if you had the brain cells to get it.
What would happen to your relationship with your main bitch if you took drugs out of your relationship? Meaning you both just went about your drug use on your own. If it's not that important it shouldn't change anything.
But it's because I respect her and they respect themselves that they like being trash for me... That's the best respect a ghetto Naco Mojado gonna get. So it's like I show them the best respect they even deserve.
Ah.... Ok...got it
i dont slap anyone around, ive never had to. but a woman should always know her place next to you, its just being traditional and shit. they like being women.
I guarantee I get more respect from them than you get from bitches.
Ah...ok... Got it
When you can cite a real life example of how you had a main bitch and both of your drug usage was self managed, then you might have a point. But at this point you are using drugs as an integral part of having a relationship with your strippers. No matter how you paraphrase it, that's what you have - a relationship with drugs involved as a part of it. It doesn't matter if either of you claim "addiction" or not.
Completely missed it on this thread
Same thing? Sin verguenza
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And I'm not hating on you. From my perspective as a PL that doesn't want anything to do with strippers OTP and thus I have no dog in this fight other than to understand what motivates a PL or stripper, I think your methods are effective for a small demographic of stripper and require as much work in some ways as other methods like being a sugar daddy or FWB. If you are not abusing your strippers and are getting stripper pussy, good on you.
Thank you for the detailed post. I have never dated or managed a stripper, but there were a couple of points you made that really resonated with me for dating in general.
"Looks matter. If she isn't the type of bitch who would go out with you in every day life, then a stripper bitch is definitely not going to date you. You need realistic expectations. Fortunately, if you’re ugly you can work on your body."
Absolutely. In fact, the younger the woman the more important looks is to her. I kind of disagree that if a man is ugly he can make up for it with body. Body will enhance looks, but to most women a man's face comes first more so than physique or even height. It goes: FACE > height > body > penis in terms of appearance.
"- Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her. Downers, weed and coke are OK, they won’t kill you. Personally, I’d stay away from crack unless its just a diablito. I’d never get involved with someone on heroin, meth, crack or anything that’s going to make her looks go downhill fast. Its in your best interest to take control of her drug use from the start. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up."
I agree. Drug experimentation is in, and weed has become almost passé. Alcohol and drugs are a great ice breaker just to get the conversation started.
"- Focus on how you make her feel. Make her associate positive experiences with spending time with you. The best scenario is if you’re hard and she knows you intimidate people, but treat her really well. Make people afraid of you, but make her laugh. Be very unpredictable. Do shit at the last minute, don’t plan, Never ask her to do shit. Tell her to do it."
Mostly agreed. I think the intimidation part isn't as important to civilian girls, especially the young ones from better neighborhoods. A lot of girls love soulful pretty boys so if you have a certain level of looks facially you can be sensitive and in-touch with your feelings and lots of girls will like it. Quite frankly, if you have a certain level of looks it's actually pretty hard to screw up dating in general.
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Is that Nicole1994?
Kinda like me.
Echopizza, Im glad you got something out of it, that was my point in posting, to share what works and let people take aspects of it that they feel comfortable applying
(A) That's not always true.
(B) That's less true for some women compared to others.
(C) You're a troll.
But good luck with all that I suppose.
But good luck with all that I suppose.
" Looks matter."
I would agree. Most lazy stripper boyfriends I noticed have boyish cute faces and average bodies.
"Your bitches are a direct reflection of who you are as a man."
You sound like a controlling personality. Which is cool and all, if you like the drama I suppose. (I have a hard time understanding both men and women of your type.)
"Strippers are always fucked up in some way."
Most non-strippers tend toward the middle of the bell curve of emotional stability. Most strippers are on either tail.
- Don’t give a fuck if she’s single or not. It doesn’t matter now a days.
...Until she starts "disrespecting" you by texting someone other than you. (Unless you are genuinely okay with that behavior from women you're dating or even just banging, but somehow I doubt that.)
"Act confident."
Always a good thing.
" You're going to have to spend money."
I encourage all the gentlemen on this board to give me money right now. You may be able to conquer me and become my pimp manager. ;)
"Learn shit like making flowers and hearts out of bills"
I was actually secretly irrationally irritated when customers would do that. Maybe it wasn't so irrational after all.
"The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular."
Sadly, I have noticed too many relationships like this.
"You want to spend money being a provider and making her feel secure. Not being a trick."
This sounds analogous to the stripper who insists that her extras don't count as extras unlike the other whores. Feel free to explain the difference if I'm wrong.
"Never approach her like a customer. Tell her you like her ambition."
When a customer tells me unprompted that he sees me as a person, I try for 2-3 quick dances and get the hell out of there. I ask to get the money up front too so that I don't get shorted.
"Tell her she missed out on tips by not paying attention to someone at the stage, or how some guy was checking her out and she missed the $$$, that she shouldn’t get lazy and needs to be on top of her game."
Plenty of customers like to explain to me how to do my job. It's usually when they're either too broke to get a dance or annoyed that floor dances doesn't somehow entitle them to fingering me.
"Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up."
I don't usually use drugs, especially on the job, but I have met plenty of cocaine lovers. So maybe?
"Be very unpredictable."
Didn't you advise earlier to be consistent?.
"Get her out of the club ASAP!!!! "
Pimps like you are making it harder for the rest of these innocent mongers who just want simple pay for play :P
"Disappear for a while after making her feel like a queen"
This is the lifecycle of pretty much almost all customers.
"Be manipulative with her feelings."
Sadly, this probably is effective.
A couple of weeks ago I was conversing with someone who was bragging about how she already owns two houses and two cars. She always makes very good money yadda yadda. And she already "made her money" that day but couldn't leave until she was picked up from work? (Like wth are your two cars good for then?)
So I agree that it happens, and you can get results from it.
Most hardcore scammers tend to get themselves in situations where they are scammed as well frequently,
in my experience. To each their own if you enjoy that kind of thing.
Answer: someone who basically read a standard "how to pick up a stripper" article on a pua site or something. I don't know a single person on this site who has gotten involved with a stripper -- I mean, in real life -- and thinks it's something they want to repeat. It's what makes this all so laughable that anyone could take it seriously
Nicespice, Thanks for the honest assessment.
”...Until she starts "disrespecting" you by texting someone other than you. (Unless you are genuinely okay with that behavior from women you're dating or even just banging, but somehow I doubt that.)”
You actually do get used to it. When you trust her, you know its just business. She may be texting them, but she’s with you, so…
”I encourage all the gentlemen on this board to give me money right now. You may be able to conquer me and become my pimp manager. ;)”
Seriously though, taking up dancers’ time at work for free would make me feel like shit. I know they’re working and its a hard hustle. Even if Im dating her, I’ll slip her a few hundred and tell her to buy herself something nice.
”"The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular."
Sadly, I have noticed too many relationships like this. ””
I don’t think its that sad. Its just a way they show they care. Its not just money, its her giving herself to you completely and knowing you give yourself to her as well.
Another great sign is when she constantly texts you throughout her days. Cos of how flaky they can be with texting, when she actually takes the time, you know she cares.
”"You want to spend money being a provider and making her feel secure. Not being a trick."
This sounds analogous to the stripper who insists that her extras don't count as extras unlike the other whores. Feel free to explain the difference if I'm wrong. ””
I mean that you make sure her needs are met. Rent gets paid, phone bills, you make sure she has enough for what she needs and wants. Unless its your main bitch, its technically her money anyways, you just manage it for her cos she would just blow on useless crap. I know a girl who is surprised by how nice of a place I found for her and how well she’s doing. Well its basically her money she would just never manage it like that. If it was up to her, she’d be living with her mom, spending her days watching tv and buying shoes and purses. She would spend everything as soon as she made it. With my main bitch, we pool our money together and do whatever we want. I try to give her the best I can.
”When a customer tells me unprompted that he sees me as a person, I try for 2-3 quick dances and get the hell out of there. I ask to get the money up front too so that I don't get shorted.”
That’s just creepy, its a captain save a ho move. One thing that catches dancers off guard is telling them how you like their game cos it works so well on you. Then dissect their game. It makes for great conversation.
”Plenty of customers like to explain to me how to do my job. It's usually when they're either too broke to get a dance or annoyed that floor dances doesn't somehow entitle them to fingering me. ”
Im not like that. I always tip very well. Like I said, I understand the grind and I’m not gona present myself as being broke. Strip clubs are definitely not the place for that. What feels a million times better than being offered sex for money is when a dancer starts getting feelings and blushes and gets nervous with you at the club and dances feel awkward….and you find yourselves inseparable when she’s not working.
”"Be very unpredictable."
Didn't you advise earlier to be consistent?.”
Consistent in how you treat her. But do unpredictable things when it comes to where you take her, when you see her, things like that. Make it interesting and exciting for her.
""Get her out of the club ASAP!!!! "
Pimps like you are making it harder for the rest of these innocent mongers who just want simple pay for play :P”
Its not really pimping. You’re not telling her to do anything and you’re not making her do it. You help each other. It probably makes it easier for them to get pay for play though.
”"Disappear for a while after making her feel like a queen"
This is the lifecycle of pretty much almost all customers. ”
I mean when you’re seeing her. Not at the club.
”"Be manipulative with her feelings."
Sadly, this probably is effective. ”
It definitely is. Its not that hard to make a woman fall in love once she lets you into her life and lets herself get a little vulnerable with you. One of the keys is to make her think its all her idea, never be pushy, let it happen at her pace, especially sex…Instead of trying to get sex, give her reasons to want to give it to you… that makes her feel comfortable with whatever happens. If you’re in it for the long run, its worth the investment. Time is on your side.
”Most hardcore scammers tend to get themselves in situations where they are scammed as well frequently,
in my experience. To each their own if you enjoy that kind of thing.”
That’s true. But I wouldn’t call what Im proposing, scamming. Its just a strategy that lets you easily engage them. Whatever comes of it isn’t a scam or anything, the feelings involved are real.
With side bitches, its pretty much when they're no longer useful.
When it comes to relationships I haven't had the best luck.
My first love died of an overdose. We were just kids and watching her get to that point and being helpless to really do anything about it was the worst feeling ever.
Then there was a girl whose family moved her to another state to get her away from me. I dont think I regret it. I was making her miserable. She was always worried about me, crying, thinking I was going to die. Her worrying about me paralyzed her.
The practically married bitch. She had a man and 2 kids with him. I had a bitch. But we had a real relationship believe it or not. Her man was afraid of me so he never did shit and as long as she fucked him once in a while he stayed around taking care of their kids. Shit got real though. Her youngest called me daddy. It ended when she got pregnant again and she had an abortion cos she didn't know whose it was. I didn't want her to get it and that was the end.
There was a girl I reconnected with that I knew in high school. I thought she was one of the prettiest girls in school and she never changed. We had a great thing going on but she wanted more and I wasn't ready for it. I just wanted to smoke weed and have sex, she wanted marriage and a house. She was trying to change me too much. Then started nagging a lot.
As far as strippers I've had relationships with........
The first was a Persian bitch from Beverly Hills who I think was just rebelling against her family. She stripped as a side hustle, would try any drug you put in front of her, loved being roughed up and humiliated. I was into it at first til she paraded me like a status symbol around her friends and got too demanding. She introduced me to tons of clients and I was doing great but the bitch expected a Kim Kardashian lifestyle. I almost went broke regardless of the number of clients I had. Then shit got really crazy and eventually her family threatened to cut her off if she didn't stop seeing me.They blamed me for her behavior when I was a victim of her crazy shit.
Another one was too self destructive. She was convinced she wouldn't live past age 24 so she just acted out on every impulse. Beautiful girl but too fucked up.
One was a real ride or die type bitch but I fucked up. I didn't like her baby daddy being involved in decisions with her kid. So I started fucking whoever I wanted to and told her I'll do it as long as he's involved in her life. She went along with it for over a year. Then her family got involved and made her leave me.
Ive had a few very positive experiences with strippers that never led to relationships. Mostly we would just hang out a lot, smoke weed and have sex. Go cruising, go to the beach. Shit like that.
I think my current relationship is pretty positive.
His advice might sound offensive to some. However, it can be very effective when used with certain women. Primarily his advice works with strippers who are whores who dance - and whores. It’s a method for building a stable of whores - and keeping them working for you - for as long a time as they are useful.
This method isn’t designed to make friends - it’s designed to make money - and to maximize earnings from each of his whores.
I use the word whore - rather than bitch. In my view a whore is a legitimate profession. I don’t think bitch is an appropriate term - as it can be considered derogatory.
I’m not saying that I would ever do when he does. I’m simply saying that his methods can be effective if building a whoring business.
On the incredibly unlikely chance it's not, to repeat:
- I wouldn't wish "dating" strippers on my worst enemy. Few if any actual experienced PLs would
- I've gotten FWB with several strippers. How I got there is opposite of the stock PUA "don't do dances with her" advice
- Hilarious that anyone thinks the paunchy 50-year-olds with successful careers that inhabit tuscl will go play pimp in the strip club and then have time to "manage" the girls
That's because: (1) you're gullible; and (2) you're confusing brazenness for honesty. i'm not saying that they lie about everything, but they will lie whenever they believe it is necessary to achieve a desired outcome. It is, quite literally, how they make a living. Do you really believe that they completely turn these traits off when they walk out of the club?
To the extent that any of this is true, you sound quite naive. But you will learn eventually. ;)
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Also, he's a troll.
Subraman - What kind of insights do you want? I'll answer your questions. Since Ive mellowed out a little in my ways, dating strippers has been pretty good. A lot of them have hearts of gold and they know the struggle. You can buy dances and it can develop. But if she gets real feelings, after a while the dynamic changes and she doesn't want to see you at the club. PUA crap is shit. It makes you look needy and its like begging women.
Rickdugan - I really do find them more honest and refreshing than other types of girls. If they like you, they go out of their way to gain your trust. Women of all kinds lie to get what they want. Strippers are more direct and honest about what they want. If they like you, they go out of their way for you more than others in my experience. Once they trust you enough to be vulnerable around you, you have them.
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Sorry for the use of the n word.
But I generally like your posts.
Yeah... that's deep. Your alternate career in writing greeting cards is off to a good start.
Attraction is all about the way you make someone feel. Make them feel the way they want to, fill a void, and you get them.
Its very possible to fuck strippers without P4P even when you first meet them. Its just 99.99999% not likely the way most guys think.
The absolute easiest way .....
Work on your body
Be a bad boy and look like one
Have drugs
Be interesting to her, connect to her on HER level
Make her feel smart and act like you admire her hustle that makes her think shit is her idea
Be direct and confident
You can buy a few dances and maybe vip, definitely drinks just dont act like a trick
ask her to leave the club with you. maybe tip her out and pay the house fee to not be a dick.
The most important point here is: don't look to "date/manage strippers", dummies. Then you won't have to worry about following fictional advice on how to do so
From Bullwinkle:
"Pour lye onto your hand, watch the skin bubble and burn, wash it away with vinegar. Look at it next time you ask this question and remember it was still a better idea then dating a stripper."
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Lol! It's been a long time since I've seen 'The lurkers support me in emails' chestnut dragged out and used unironically.
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But again, my advice will most likely not work for you if you're old enough to be her dad or grandpa and look and act it. For othes it may, so don't throw fits and attack me just coz you're a bitter old trick
Have a good afternoon liar.
I went on a couple double dates with a fellow dancer and them.
He had a Mohawk lived with his mom and lost his license.
She was in love with him.
Needless to say this shit works.
Think about the stereotypical stripper boyfriend and the crowd that she hangs around. In order to attract them you have to be either a part of their tribe or a tribe that they want to visit.
There are even strippers where the more fucked up shit you do, or say you do, the more they want you. Legal problems turn them on. Others get turned on by hood shit and stories. Some like hearing about your crazy exes and side bitches and want you coz of it. Its crazy.
long jacket?
Finish the night, it is over in my head and I wait to play again when I am at the club. Play with same or new ..makes no difference to me who I Fantasize with.
If you follow the advice of this thread, you have to pay, buy drugs, let them live and do drugs with you, and then deal with their day to day drama.
LMFAO it's MORE work, idiot.
RIL trick bitch in denial. Gold medalist at that!
And they give you money for the drugs anyway.
You're always talking about giving stripper whores money. LULZ that you deny and deflect!
And LMFAO you took me back off ignore for like the hundredth time. LULZ!!!
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
The money can make her happy, and show your respect for her, and make her respect you.
In most countries other than the US, well off guys keep mistresses.
BF and GF are really adolescent terms, applied to people who are living with and being supported by their parents.
SJG
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That's right out of the RIL trick bitch handbook. LULZ!
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
Well if you met her in a strip club, giving her money should be no problem.
If she is total civvie, then one way is just to take her shopping.
I learned this in an old edition of Helen Gurly Brown's "Sex and the Single Girl".
Once is usually enough, then you can just give her cash. But probably more of a stipend, then fee for service.
I'll be doing paid lingerie photo modelling sessions with them.
But only outside of my org. Inside my org, no, they get no money like that, and all the men are equal, having lots of money or not.
Overall, defining a relationship and making it go in a way which works is no small task.
SJG
There's no reason to give a woman a stipend if she's not living with you and there's no commitment....
Then to get her outside she might want money.
Mistresses in the European style are usually getting money.
It really all depends, and depends on what you want.
Potential wives don't get money, at least not in that way. But I think most people will agree that wives are by far the most expensive.
Talking about stipend, I meant one you are really seeing regularly, and had to soften up with a shopping trip.
With a stripper, not necessary, just pay per visit.
SJG
That's what I mean though, you shouldn't be paying them. Spending money on them is one thing, but also limit it. Plus limit what you offer them...I think when there's a serious commitment, its okay to treat her like a wife though.
But I will just say, paying a girl and respecting her are not mutually exclusive.
Though better to just get her to see it as some kind of Mistress Maintenance, not hooker fees. For me it will be money for lingerie photo modelling sessions.
But this only goes up until she is inducted into my organization. Then she will be getting great benefits, while fucking all of our guys for free.
I think it really just depends on where you see the relationship as going. If she is fucking your for free, then probably she sees the relationship as leading to marriage. And her willingness to continue is predicated on that.
My .02
SJG
Definitely an RIL trick bitch in denial. LULZ!
If you want P4P, the most economical way to go about it is to exchange drugs for sex. $40 in drugs will get you as much as $200 in cash.
As far as mistresses go, its a tough one. Its just whoever is a good fit for you. But stripper hoes are generally good candidates...
SJG
SJG
And FYI you sound like a woman by in that you "know" so much about what women want. LULX!
SJG
One of the biggest ego boosts is having a woman who can be bitchy or assertive and she becomes very passive and submits to you.
LULZ!
SJG
You kiss locos ass as he advocates dispensing drugs and alcohol, I thought you were against drugs and alcohol yet you condone his being a pusher and a pimp. SMH
twentyfive, you are just jealous because Icey is generally pretty good at making things happen with the ladies.
SJG
OTH if that’s the type he attracts, I’d say that’s the best he can do. LULX
And then if you aren't attracted to young Latina Bombshells, oh well, not much for me to say.
SJG
No one needs to have you vomit on them.
SJG
As far as drugs and alcohol go, of course they're not good things....but I'm being pragmatic. Harm reduction does more good than preaching abstinence when it comes to users.
And I guarantee, none of you would be paying these girls to fuck if you could get them for free. I'm offering advice that does work.
Also, what makes the women I like and attract so horrid? That they're not white and tend to be working class?
Enjoy the eye candy unless you're gay lulz
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In her first post of this inane thread...
"You're going to have to spend money. "
^ Clearly she's advising others to P4P for GFE.
"You're going to have to spend money. "
^ LMFAO clear hypocrisy from the hypocritical trick bitch.
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
The girl in this video though....
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SJG
In my organization it will not be that way.
But with the general population you will find a broad variety of views.
I do promote what I believe in, but that does not mean that I am by nature a mean or absolutist person.
Some of the girls in our latina underground circuit had freaked me out at first. But I came to very much appreciate them.
I like this one:
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SJG
Sexiest Ladies of Jazz - The Trilogy!
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Initially it was the makeup and especially the piercings and facial jewelry which freaked me out.
But all you need to do is just spend some face to face time with any of them, and their intense warmth shows at once.
They could have done anything they wanted to with me, turned me into a Show Donkey, anything.
And it is Skibum who is predicting a Civil War.
SJG
SJG.... I don't like facial jewelry much, but it can look good on some girls...if they're already pretty, and its not overdone. You should have kept in touch with them.
SJG
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SJG
SJG
Serious question for icee, you don’t like us not that we care, you don’t approve or appreciate us again we’ve shown that we don’t give a rats ass, so my question is why are you here, I’m sure you can find more appropriate forums to post on, when will you get the point that we just don’t like you?
Your view of strip clubs is from the perspective of a delusional trick, so you don't see what its really like.
You're welcome to your myopic world view, but it doesn't make it exemplary of the world at large. I feel sorry for you if you act anything like this in person.
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
- IceyDodo, June 30, 2018
- Looks matter. If she isn't the type of bitch who would go out with you in every day life, then a stripper bitch is definitely not going to date you. You need realistic expectations. Fortunately, if you’re ugly you can work on your body.
- Your bitches are a direct reflection of who you are as a man. Respect is everything.
- Strippers are always fucked up in some way. If you want a house in the suburbs and a white picket fence and live happily ever after in your vanilla world, forget about strippers.
- Don’t give a fuck if she’s single or not. It doesn’t matter now a days.
- Act confident. By that I mean be direct about what you want and always back your words up with actions. Consistency in your words and actions makes you look confident and gains her trust. This in turn makes her more submissive. This consistency is what gets her addicted to you.
- You're going to have to spend money. It will get her attention and make her notice you ITC. Don't get dances though. Learn shit like making flowers and hearts out of bills and give her a few hundred dollar bills just because. These bitches associate everything with money. Their self worth is linked to how much money they get for their looks. Affection, happiness, anything positive, its expressed with money. Its just how the stripper life is. These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it. She will accept everything. Whats different when she likes you is her reaction to it. She’s gon feel special and treat you like a king, start doing shit for you in return. Ie buy you groceries, clean your place, cook for you, do her hair and nails how you want them, dress like you want her to, shes going to want to share shit like that with you. But remember, this is a very temporary stage. The goal is to get her interested enough to get hooked, eventually she’ll be the one giving you money cos she’s just going to associate it with her liking you and that’s how she expresses it. The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular.
- Never be a trick. If you pay her for sex with money or pay her for dances regularly, she will never respect you. You’re paying her to provide what a man should be able to get without paying for it like that. A lap dance here and there is OK, even a VIP room session. But it should never be a regular thing. Its desperation and that makes you weak in her eyes. You want to spend money being a provider and making her feel secure. Not being a trick.
- Never approach her like a customer. Tell her you like her ambition. That you love the way her eyes light up when she sees that $$$ but its cool cos you love fast money too. Tell her that her hustle turns you on cos its so cute and then give her some tips. Show her you’re a bigger hustler than her. Tell her she missed out on tips by not paying attention to someone at the stage, or how some guy was checking her out and she missed the $$$, that she shouldn’t get lazy and needs to be on top of her game. Make her see that if she gets with you she can be on a winning team. Be supportive of her grind and hustle and make her see its part of your vision and dreams with her. Trying to change her or make her quit her hustle is the worst thing you can do at this point.
- Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her. Downers, weed and coke are OK, they won’t kill you. Personally, I’d stay away from crack unless its just a diablito. I’d never get involved with someone on heroin, meth, crack or anything that’s going to make her looks go downhill fast. Its in your best interest to take control of her drug use from the start. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up.
- Focus on how you make her feel. Make her associate positive experiences with spending time with you. The best scenario is if you’re hard and she knows you intimidate people, but treat her really well. Make people afraid of you, but make her laugh. Be very unpredictable. Do shit at the last minute, don’t plan, Never ask her to do shit. Tell her to do it.
- Notice the pattern. Its about control. You want her to feel comfortable with you. The more comfortable you make her, the more control she gives you. She doesn’t have any control in her life and wants you to fill that void.
- Get her out of the club ASAP!!!! I can’t stress this one enough!!! This move always works for me but I can be pretty charming. After establishing a connection, whether her liking the way I look, drugs, $$$ anything I tell her I’ll take care of her for the night and ask her to tip out and leave the club with me. If she isn’t allowed, I tell her I’ll come back when her shift ends. Have her drug of choice or know where to get it. If she isn’t leaving work early, don’t give her any money. Make it last as long as you can, get high, fuck, get something to eat, whatever. Flirt with her, make have a great time. Keep up the pressure and get her to see you again really soon. If she doesn’t want to leave with you on the first try, then try one more time. If she doesn’t do it then, then fuck it and move on.
- Disappear for a while after making her feel like a queen and bringing some excitement to her life. Remember most strippers lead very boring lives cos of the hours they work and their bad habits. She’s going to miss you and think she did something wrong to make you leave. During that time, it helps if she finds out that you have side bitches. Her instincts will kick in.
- Don’t be afraid to discipline her. Eventually you’ll have to. Be manipulative with her feelings. When that works it means you have her mind and her heart. If you beat her she’ll just be afraid of you. That’s a bitch move unless you really have to. If she fucks with your main bitch keys your car gets violent with you, then slap the shit out of her. One of the best ways to fuck with her is to make sure she knows you have side bitches.
- Use sex as a reward. Fuck her to fuck with her. Make her nights to let her know she’s being a good girl. If she pisses you off or does stupid shit make it clear that your side bitches will be the ones who get fucked and get to suck your dick, not her.
- She’s not happy with herself and never satisfied, she’s always looking for a quick fix and fast satisfaction. You have to be a few steps ahead of her and make sure you fulfil her needs for constant stimulation so that she has no reason to stray. The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life. Its what these bitches crave. She doesn’t have any control in her life so she’s going to give it to you. If you don’t take control she’s gon be a loose cannon, spend all of her and your money on drugs and stupid shit, get all self destructive.
- IceyDodo, June 30, 2018
LMFAO here's a classic IceyDodo thread admitting to being a sugar daddy and spending A LOT ("hundreds, if not thousands" per day) of money on his main stripper whore after she "broke up" with her:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussi…
LULZ!
And don't forget the part about buying drugs.
- IceyDodo, June 12, 2018
""Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
- IceyDodo, June 12, 2018
^ LMFAO hundreds of dollars a day paid to a stripper whore for "free pussy".
LULZ!
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
- IceyDodo, June 12, 2018
^ LMFAO hundreds of dollars a day paid to a stripper whore for "free pussy".
- Looks matter. If she isn't the type of bitch who would go out with you in every day life, then a stripper bitch is definitely not going to date you. You need realistic expectations. Fortunately, if you’re ugly you can work on your body.
- Your bitches are a direct reflection of who you are as a man. Respect is everything.
- Strippers are always fucked up in some way. If you want a house in the suburbs and a white picket fence and live happily ever after in your vanilla world, forget about strippers.
- Don’t give a fuck if she’s single or not. It doesn’t matter now a days.
- Act confident. By that I mean be direct about what you want and always back your words up with actions. Consistency in your words and actions makes you look confident and gains her trust. This in turn makes her more submissive. This consistency is what gets her addicted to you.
- You're going to have to spend money. It will get her attention and make her notice you ITC. Don't get dances though. Learn shit like making flowers and hearts out of bills and give her a few hundred dollar bills just because. These bitches associate everything with money. Their self worth is linked to how much money they get for their looks. Affection, happiness, anything positive, its expressed with money. Its just how the stripper life is. These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it. She will accept everything. Whats different when she likes you is her reaction to it. She’s gon feel special and treat you like a king, start doing shit for you in return. Ie buy you groceries, clean your place, cook for you, do her hair and nails how you want them, dress like you want her to, shes going to want to share shit like that with you. But remember, this is a very temporary stage. The goal is to get her interested enough to get hooked, eventually she’ll be the one giving you money cos she’s just going to associate it with her liking you and that’s how she expresses it. The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular.
- Never be a trick. If you pay her for sex with money or pay her for dances regularly, she will never respect you. You’re paying her to provide what a man should be able to get without paying for it like that. A lap dance here and there is OK, even a VIP room session. But it should never be a regular thing. Its desperation and that makes you weak in her eyes. You want to spend money being a provider and making her feel secure. Not being a trick.
- Never approach her like a customer. Tell her you like her ambition. That you love the way her eyes light up when she sees that $$$ but its cool cos you love fast money too. Tell her that her hustle turns you on cos its so cute and then give her some tips. Show her you’re a bigger hustler than her. Tell her she missed out on tips by not paying attention to someone at the stage, or how some guy was checking her out and she missed the $$$, that she shouldn’t get lazy and needs to be on top of her game. Make her see that if she gets with you she can be on a winning team. Be supportive of her grind and hustle and make her see its part of your vision and dreams with her. Trying to change her or make her quit her hustle is the worst thing you can do at this point.
- Turn the conversation to drugs. Hook her up with whatever she’s into. Better yet, get high with her. Downers, weed and coke are OK, they won’t kill you. Personally, I’d stay away from crack unless its just a diablito. I’d never get involved with someone on heroin, meth, crack or anything that’s going to make her looks go downhill fast. Its in your best interest to take control of her drug use from the start. Make sure she does the minimum to get fucked up.
- Focus on how you make her feel. Make her associate positive experiences with spending time with you. The best scenario is if you’re hard and she knows you intimidate people, but treat her really well. Make people afraid of you, but make her laugh. Be very unpredictable. Do shit at the last minute, don’t plan, Never ask her to do shit. Tell her to do it.
- Notice the pattern. Its about control. You want her to feel comfortable with you. The more comfortable you make her, the more control she gives you. She doesn’t have any control in her life and wants you to fill that void.
- Get her out of the club ASAP!!!! I can’t stress this one enough!!! This move always works for me but I can be pretty charming. After establishing a connection, whether her liking the way I look, drugs, $$$ anything I tell her I’ll take care of her for the night and ask her to tip out and leave the club with me. If she isn’t allowed, I tell her I’ll come back when her shift ends. Have her drug of choice or know where to get it. If she isn’t leaving work early, don’t give her any money. Make it last as long as you can, get high, fuck, get something to eat, whatever. Flirt with her, make have a great time. Keep up the pressure and get her to see you again really soon. If she doesn’t want to leave with you on the first try, then try one more time. If she doesn’t do it then, then fuck it and move on.
- Disappear for a while after making her feel like a queen and bringing some excitement to her life. Remember most strippers lead very boring lives cos of the hours they work and their bad habits. She’s going to miss you and think she did something wrong to make you leave. During that time, it helps if she finds out that you have side bitches. Her instincts will kick in.
- Don’t be afraid to discipline her. Eventually you’ll have to. Be manipulative with her feelings. When that works it means you have her mind and her heart. If you beat her she’ll just be afraid of you. That’s a bitch move unless you really have to. If she fucks with your main bitch keys your car gets violent with you, then slap the shit out of her. One of the best ways to fuck with her is to make sure she knows you have side bitches.
- Use sex as a reward. Fuck her to fuck with her. Make her nights to let her know she’s being a good girl. If she pisses you off or does stupid shit make it clear that your side bitches will be the ones who get fucked and get to suck your dick, not her.
- She’s not happy with herself and never satisfied, she’s always looking for a quick fix and fast satisfaction. You have to be a few steps ahead of her and make sure you fulfil her needs for constant stimulation so that she has no reason to stray. The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life. Its what these bitches crave. She doesn’t have any control in her life so she’s going to give it to you. If you don’t take control she’s gon be a loose cannon, spend all of her and your money on drugs and stupid shit, get all self destructive.
- IceyDodo, June 12, 2018
^ LMFAO hundreds of dollars a day paid to a stripper whore for "free pussy".
SJG
SJG
SJG said "CMI, don't you get tired of posting your venom?"
I don't know about venom, but I don't mind pointing out the hypocrisy of a guy who accuses others of being insensitive about domestic violence when, in this thread, he advocates that it's okay to "slap the shit out of" a woman. But really what it comes down to is that on June 30, 2018, Icee made the post above not because it's valid or even sincere, but because he hoped it would cause the most drama and attract the most attention. Which is what he does every day currently, but with a whole other set of false opinions that he has refined over time from this post.
Anywho, don't you ever get tired of posting about a rapey sex slave cult that will never become a real thing because you use a titty bar website as a platform for your desperate confirmation bias disguised as performance intellectualism? Or, being the one "radical liberal" who disagrees with liberal thought on COVID precautions because you're singularly terrified that you'll lose your library internet service...again?
I know, you can't answer right now. The library is closed. But I'm sure we can look forward to your reply tomorrow when the librarians reluctantly unlock the door for you.
SLAMMED THAT FAGGIT ICEEFAG
https://wikidiff.com/pimp/ponc…
SJG
A ponce is a guy, usually portrayed as an effeminate man, who is hired by girls to perform services for them. The girls are the boss.
SJG
Is it really true that all strippers have issues
Some are just doing it for the good money
Or otherwise, he helps provide the security and business contacts/clients for the women, thus takes a cut of the money earned in exchange
With a ponce, the ponce works for the girl.
SJG
That subreddit can drive you crazy, make you think you have to constantly play all kinds of manipulative mind games and control tactics to get and maintain relationships with women. Its interesting theory but not sure about everything posted.
They have a thing called hypergamy where they say women instinctively look for powerful, famous, rich, good looking and muscular men... the thing is many men also look for the exact same thing in women (replace muscular with finely built, nice body). Everyone wants those things
I don't think women using men for status or wealth is the same nowadays. In hypergamy its the man who has the power. In today's relationships that's seldom the case. Trying to get women based on wealth etc just gets you used. Using looks at least gets you fucked though. Humans are superficial
In modern times hypergamy is especially more common than ever before in men. Look at relationships like pete Davidson kim k, sam asghari britney spears, maybe ashton kutcher demi moore... cases where a much wealthier powerful rich women marries a younger much poorer guy for his looks or dick or something
Even fame alone gets you the opposite sex but its also being used similar to the wealth thing.
Anytime a rich person marries a poorer person, the poorer person is given all the state backed power
In the old days you didnt see as many divorces cause the poorer person wouldn’t get anything from divorcing
And if they are marrying someone much poorer theres some other factor attracting them like looks or something
The point is if you base a relationship on flaunting money you'll attract people who want that money. You can't act surprised by advertising to get used
It shows beyond a doubt what a repulsive person you really are
Why did you stop posting pictures? What happened to that old account
I got banned after gloating about Trump losing.
But yeah a lot were butthurt about me divulging vip secrets 🤣🤣😭😭😭 I think itbwas about what pants are best for Cumming in during lap dances
https://tuscl.net/discussion.p…
And this is yhe vip secret I divulged
https://tuscl.net/discussion.p…
I wanted to talk about the contents of reviews, but rather than compromise them by doing that in the front room, I made a thread in VIP for that.
SJG
What was the vip secret? Which kind of pants should be worn?
Whats this word btw? “Shaaaooow”
Is it shoo like go away
SJG
Is that you with a dancer on that profile pic? She looks good very slim thicc
SJG