I get ignored without having to be on an ignore list.
In all seriousness, unless it's an easy program, I wouldn't bother. I could not care less who ignores me and most of the time it would probably be a mutually beneficial ignore.
Yes you should.
This is a community site. Hate to admit it but a little shaming can go a long way and enough visible ignores might get more people to question their behavior
No, you shouldn’t. Not out of any ethical or moral reason, but rather because it is somewhat of a contradiction. In real life, if you ignore someone you don’t put up a sign that says “I’m ignoring Mr. Smith.” In fact, you don’t do anything, that’s the whole point; you do not respond to another’s actions or words.
Let people discover the good ol’ fashion way that they are being ignored.
It's all the same information, but depending on how it worked it might not be so bad.
For example, I couldn't care less who ignores me. I suspect most don't. So if you mean a page that shows me who has me on ignore I think its a waste. But, in the hands of a troll, it may provide a list of targets to harass, so I'm not really for it. On the other hand, if I were to look at someone else's profile and see who ignores them, it might have some very small bit of usefulness. I'd think of it of the inverse of a trust.
Maybe a count would be a middle of the road option? As part of a public profile. So I'd have 4 Trusts and 13 Ignores or whatever.
No. If a user wants to share who is on their ignore list, that's fine. But it shouldn't be mandatory. Also, in this forum there's not going to be any shame associated in being ignored.
A possible middle ground... show how many users ignore a given user, but not the identity.
The problem might be (either way) that once a user / troll sees that they are being widely ignored by many, that's a signal for them to create another garbage profile.
After considering this seriously my inclination would be to have an ignore list similar to the trust list, not name who has you on ignore just how many.
I vote no. If I have someone on ignore, I just want to be done with them and they don't need to know. You would hate for someone you have on ignore to know that and start bad-mouthing you in other posts.
My initial inclination is a flat "no." I think CMI's compromise of showing number of ignores, but not who is ignoring who would be a good one. I'd be curious to hear what prompted founder to float this notion.
I do think some sort of system where if a person is ignored enough they are auto-ignored for people browsing the site not logged in would be good. That would encourage more positive behavior.
I actually like the idea, but I really wouldn't put too much effort into writing the program or whatever it is that you have to do. I would spend more time partying in Vegas instead :)
Anyway, a few people have suggested publicizing the number of ignores but keeping the identities anonymous. But wouldn't this actually encourage the trolls to keep creating aliases so that they can use their new aliases specifically to ignore their targets, thereby artificially increasing the number of ignores on a targeted account? I apologize, if this isn't possible, I wouldn't know personally because I've never created an alias.
Also, a quick side note: wouldn't it be easier for Clubber to just give us a list of the people he *isn't* ignoring?
Different issue, this is the discussions list for @FTS. He seems to have somehow gotten a thread started with no title, or something is wrong with it. Now way to get to it.
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That this could happen would seem to be a bug.
SJG
After considering this seriously my inclination would be to have an ignore list similar to the trust list, not name who has you on ignore just how many.
Except that you can see who trusts you.
But I agree with showing how many but not the names of who ignores you.
The only problem being that some of those loser trolls will take it as a badge of honor and try to get high score
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After considering this seriously my inclination would be to have an ignore list similar to the trust list, not name who has you on ignore just how many.
Except that you can see who trusts you.
But I agree with showing how many but not the names of who ignores you.
The only problem being that some of those loser trolls will take it as a badge of honor and try to get high score
Who’d care? It would be like bragging about who has the lowest IQ lol
Pretty sure if they could see who put them on ignore, it would give them incentive to make more accounts exclusively to bother said person or people. They'd get a kick out of it.
Is IP banning a thing presently?
I really don't see a compelling reason to publish an ignore list numbers or names. if founder truly has a bug to try some new website gimmick, then just publish numbers. Sheesh, clubber getting crotchety in his senior years. Several that he has on ignore, I don't see why. Londonguy??? He's one of the more levelheaded members around. Some of the others can be opinionated, long winded, or both. But several of the others don't engage in personal attacks, or spam the board.
"The problem might be (either way) that once a user / troll sees that they are being widely ignored by many, that's a signal for them to create another garbage profile." - I agree with Ishmael
I too like the middle ground approach where the number of ignorers is shown, but not names. Could be a wake-up call for some, and a victory lap for others.
I don't think it's a good idea for people to know they are being ignored. If they knew who ignored them, they are most likely going to continue to troll in order to increase their ignore rate. If they get ignored by too many people or by people that they look up to, they'll likely create another account and troll on that.
I say no. But agree a compromise would be to list the number of people who have you on ignore.
I have put people on ignore only to take them off later and a couple times I've accidentally put someone on ignore.
I should probably turn the other cheek, but I'm in a combative mood today.
I've been here 3.5yrs and @Clubber is famous for railing against political correctness because he thinks he should have the right to say what he wants without offending anyone. Then he puts 50 people on ignore and posts about it constantly. What an idiot.
I don't use the ignore button. What makes TUSCL an interesting place is the diversity and the fact that it's very lightly moderated. I think it's a mistake to take any further action, and it will just turn the board into a popularity contest with uniform group-think.
OTOH, this @Founders business and livelihood. It's certainly his call.
I am happy to have given many of you a chance to vent. As to why per who, that is MY business. If you wish to know why, ask the ignored to pass along that information. I tell those I've ignored why I did so. Well, except for the mouth breathers.
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Bj99 has a brilliant point!
To bring this thread back to the original topic and be serious for a minute, I think a lot of "trolling" is better categorized as "people saying stuff other people don't like".
Trolling implies an attempt to get others to respond negatively. For example, I try to put "brilliant" or "ace" in my posts because it makes me laugh. If somebody else laugh then it is aces. If somebody else tolerates it but thinks it is stupid then fine. If somebody is so irritated by it that they have to put me on their ignore then that is what the ignore button is for.
I am not going to disrespect Clubber for PM'ing people he ignores. I don't get it. But I don't have to get everything everybody else does. I don't think he is doing it specifically to elicit a negative response (i.e., trolling). So for me it is "meh, his decision to do something I wouldn't do".
There are certainly folks that troll in terms of trying to get a negative reaction. If you can laugh at them despite their intentions then that's aces. If you don't like it that's what the ignore button is for! ;)
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