How many dances do you want ?
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Once in a while I get asked this question by a dancer up front b/f we begin our dances - she may not mean any harm by it but for w/e reason it turns me off - I use the "feel it method" and like to go song by song and don't like committing to anything upfront - IDK exactly why they ask this but again it turns me off almost as if they are telling me "don't waste my time for just one dance" although there can be some legit reasons for her asking.
Has this happened to you - how do you feel about it?
Has this happened to you - how do you feel about it?
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A week ago this new chick said I can do 5 for $125 since the dances are $25 a piece
I said yes I know dis...it's why I'm asking for a standard discount on a bulk purchase
Let's just say she sold no dances to me that night
Follies is magical because you can pop 2-4-$20
lol love that! This has not happened to me very much at all. I tend to answer playfully, something that comes off a little bit as a challenge, "It depends how crazy you get me"...
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
Several months later I had gotten to know her a little bit and we ended up in VIP and I was the recipient of a mind blowing bbbj so you never know.
It does turn me off. I'm not one to need any sort of emotional connection to my stripper, but that sort of behavior is indicative of a sense of entitlement/superiority that I find unattractive.
That would make sense if there was already an agreement that the custie would be getting dances.
SJG
Then when she comes and sits on your lap, another $20. And the let her get to know you and come on to her, with more nuzzling and probably titty massaging and kissing and dfking, and continuing down onto her thighs and more.
Let her get to know you extensively, think of the situation as an accelerated first date, with a girl you'll be spending lots of long nights with very soon.
Maybe give her $20 per song. Do whatever it takes.
The idea is not to save money. The idea is to change the choreography and dynamics of the encounter.
And in the front room there should be no house cut.
SJG
Who is going to open a strip club without making money?
Then where will these unskilled girls work?
You need to start making sense, instead of living in your delusional world why don't you get some real experience, instead of hypothesizing how things work.
25, learn to read.
SJG
Probably if a guy and girl are really getting hot and heavy, they will be wanting to use a VIP Room.
But this is by the guy doing the inviting, and after he and a girl are extremely GFE friendly.
SJG
SJG
So the more extreme girls, like we get in our underground circuit, they are all over guys. That's how they show guys that they are the girl they want to go further with.
And like I said, Venom in Tuscon, $15 for 15 min = 60$ per hour.
I don't think girls are "selling dances" in a place like that. I think they are on laps and getting real friendly.
Again, the idea is not to economize, it is to get to know a girl and have a really good experience with her. Letting her sell you dances does not do that. But front room friendliness followed by FS ITC or OTC, does.
So the house gets the cover charge, the girl's access fees ( and these can be high, but they are a flat rate ) and the drinks, and then the VIP Room, and what booth dances are done. This should be perfectly good money, so long as the girls are showing guys a good time.
The underground circuit in our Mexican Bars gets it all out of the girls' access fees. That way is nice because everything they add another girl, they are upping their money. And then the more girls, the more aggressive they are.
25, with all due respect I don't think you have much experience with clubs that are running somewhat beyond that law, or in knowing the people who run them.
SJG
First of all these are bars, so no booths or back rooms. And as this is not really legal, it is safer for the bar owner that way.
On the nights of the shows, there is a huge crowd. And as guys spend their money quickly, the house turns over a few times during the course of a 2 or 3 hour show.
So the house money is
1. Increased drink sales
2. The special cover charge, $5 or $10.
The talent agent's money is the flat access fee he gets off of each girl. This is good because all he has to do to get more money is keep adding girls. And the can, so long as the patronage is building up and the girls are getting money.
And then as it is a flat access fee, it squeezes some girls more than others, so the ones who do well are extremely aggressive.
So you just have fun with girls while feeding them money. And as this is a wilder crowd that at the advertised clubs, most of the girls do OTC, and when they are with you, this is what they are talking about.
So how far it goes varies. At most of these places they still tried to keep it within some bounds.
But there had been one where girls were doing front room, and then parking lot FS, as well as BJ's. There girls are wonderful, and of course they love to DFK, and they want to see out OTC.
But all of this comes and goes and all of it has by now gotten jumped on several times by LE.
But it is legally safer for the bar owner not to have booths or back rooms. Easier to say that he did not know how far things were going, and was not getting money from it.
And this is how it had been reported on blackstripclubs.net too. Play with the girl right at your own seat, then in the most extreme of dives they just head to darkened corners to finish what they have started.
The owner does not get extra money for what the girls do. Much legally safer.
So I mention this to answer our OP, and tell him that it is better to find extreme dives and have fun with your girl right at your seat. Don't let her sell you dances.
And then for the club, I'm answering your concern, no clubs do not need the booth or vip room money. They can run just fine with cover charges, drinks, and dancer flat access fees.
SJG
I'm telling you how it works in our underground clubs.
You still haven't make your necessary trip to the toilet.
SJG
san_jose_guy you're an idiot if you think anyone believes you
I was tight with the people who ran our underground circuit. But no, that is not a business I want to be in.
SJG