My fourth night/best night thus far

"No touching above the waist". Does this mean that petting the kitty is OK? School girl out fits are so common place I hardly notice them anymore. I've never had an amazing life changing experience in the VIP room without extras involved? I don't waste my money on non extras clubs/girls but that's just me.

Alyssa, the key for me is variety. The school girl would work for me maybe once every six weeks. A scanty French maid a bit more often. Some really nice teddies, baby dolls etc, oh yeah. Every guy in the club will have his own take on what turns him on. That's why variety is so important to building your clientele! You may also want to consider having two or more outfits to change into so that guys will hang out just to see what's next.

Just my 2¢. Glad you're having a good experience!

Darlin, it's all about the fantasy. In a no extras club, guys are looking for the fantasy. They are wanting to be with a girl (even if it's for a short time) they they can't in the outside world. For some, it's the innocent school girl they we dreamed of as a teenager. For others, it may be the super hot sultry blond bombshell with huge knockers. Some of us are getting older and just like the fact that someone young and good looking make us think that we are still attractive to them. All I can say is that your job is to provide fantasies that we are looking for.

Haha, no..no kitty petting is allowed either. Ah, I see what you mean! I haven't seen any yet here where I'm from, except on special theme nights. Apparently some guys are very into the look, but I figured the ones who aren't have become too used to the concept.

Oh, okay I understand. I didn't even know there were SCs who openly allow extras! Mine doesn't at all to protect it's name and it's girls. For the most part, the custies don't mind, but I can see why you'd exclusively visit clubs who offer extras.

Thanks for your input ATAC and impala! I agree with both of you. I'm definitely going to switch the style up as much as I can to invoke an exciting fantasy. Perhaps I'll try to do a French maid soon, always liked those costumes. I couldn't agree with you both more! :)

My ATF rotates costumes and one is the schoolgirl thing. It's cute but it's not why she's my ATF. The costume you wear is important of course, but it's not your meal ticket.

Alyssa, what part of the country you working, anyways?

That's very true rockstar. The costume definitely adds to the fantasy element, but it's just something to grasp attention.

I work in New Jersey, impala! :)

@Alyssa: The single hottest outfit I've ever seen a stripper wear was a man's white Oxford style shirt, tails hanging to about mid-thigh, with nothing underneath (when Louisville still allowed full nudity). To top it off, she "fixed" her hair in a very convincing "just woke up bed head" look. Of course, knowing the girl in question, she probably *had* just gotten up, and borrowed a shirt because none of her outfits were washed. :)

I'll add my voice to the "variety" crowd though.

What part of Jersey? I'm in PA and get out that way sometimes.

I like a schoolgirl outfit, but it can get over done. My favorite outfit is one where your breasts are exposed as much as possible, but just not quite completely. For example, I loved a girl last night who was wearing a tiny sleeveless jean jacket that was completely unbuttoned. You could get lots of glimpses of her breasts but they were just never quite fully visible. I just had to get her to take that little jacket off so I bought a few dances.

As for a great dance that did not involve extras, I recently posted an article that describes my favorite lap dance without extras. While I wouldn't call it life-changing, it was an experience I will never forget.

One last suggestion. I know your club doesn't allow extras, and you don't want to do them at least at this point even though you could make a ton more money that way. However, you would still be more successful if you would let the guys grab and play above the waist however he wants to in VIP as long as he's not hurting you. There are so many clubs that allow a high-level of contact that you're going to have a serious problem making good money if you don't allow it. Read what the dancer did in my article on my favorite dance without extras. I don't remember my hands ever going between her legs, but she made a good $300 plus from just those dances with me because she allowed my hands and mouth to roam so freely above the waist.

In other words, the more contact you allow the more money you will make. The less contact you allow, the less money you will make make. We can look at all the naked women we want on the Internet, so just looking doesn't cut it. Things that set a strip club apart from internet porn are the ability to interact with a naked woman, the ability to touch what we see, and the girls ability and willingness to give us an orgasm wether through extras or not. The more you offer these advantages over porn, the more successful you will be.

A VIP dance where we have to worry about the bouncer coming in simply because we're touching too much would be a major turnoff and pretty much guarantee that you don't get big bucks from the experienced guys.

Thanks for sharing and asking your questions.

@impala; South Jersey :)

And thank you Georg and John for your input! To be fair, I don't really mind the rules on groping in the VIP simply because I'm new and want to slowly get use to it. Still, the custie who I danced on said he'd give me 50 bucks to let him fondle me some more. In which case, that's when the bouncer intervened from the outside. I can understand that may be highly frustrating as a customer.

Well..at least he got his rocks off! He had a colossal boner by the time if was over, and after a hug goodbye, I never saw a man leave so fast to his car lol.

@Alyssatanggg (Alyssa Tang? I did a FB search...) I disagree that you *must* let PL's grope your breasts to make money. The club I frequent the most also has cameras and the guy will be kicked out for groping breasts. Yet the top girls make as much as in a club that allows such things.

This doesn't mean there aren't "extras" to be had however. When the dancer has her back to the camera, nipple sucking is sometimes available, and she can even do a HJ when straddling the guy if she's clever about it.

Few of the dancers do this however, and customers don't expect it except unless they are a dancer's regular or throw stupid money at them. The dancers I'm friends with all tell me they never break the rules until they know the customer well; there have been undercover cops there in the past (I saw the cars in the lot and alerted my ATF). Interestingly, when I get extras from my regulars, it's part of the package. I don't pay extra, so it's likely their other regulars get the same service without paying extra.

Depending on the club, YMMV.

Don't worry, Alyssa Tang isn't my real name..it's actually a nickname! :) And thank you so much for your input rockstar. Much appreciated to read everyone's experiences.

Too bad; one FB Alyssa Tang was super hot! LOL

Oh man, that's funny! For all you know, they could all be related to me, especially if they're Asian! Lol

Well..at least he got his rocks off! He had a colossal boner by the time if was over, and after a hug goodbye, I never saw a man leave so fast to his car lol....nice


I agree with the variety comments. I have decided not to get dances from a dancer on one visit, then on the next visit I see them in a different outfit that I find sexy. That has changed my mind in the past about certain dancers.

You may even bring multiple outfits when you dance and change in the middle of a shift. I have seen dancers do this and their night totally changes.




I totally agree with the veriety comments.

Great stories...keep them comming.

Awesome advice crazyjoe. Looks like I need to go costume shopping! I want to try a pin-upy look one night. A beautiful dancer at the club rocks such a look and looks stunning doing so. She told me to give it a try since she believes I have the face for it. Dancing is so fun! Lol

Great post again, Alyssa! I'm so pleased to hear that the "pushy dancer" got fired, and you continue to do well in your new job. As someone commented on your earlier thread, it was just a matter of time that she'd cause problems for the club and be appropriately recognized for her work.

On your question about school girl costumes, I'm with Shadowcat. It seems to be the most common of all the theme costumes that dancers wear, and as for myself, I've probably seen enough dancer in it to last the rest of my life. But, the important thing is, is that if it works for you, keep it as part of your costume variety.

This thread is a who's who of kiss ass SIMPS...

I'm a big fan of all the different costumes dancers wear. Stockings, fishnets, corsets, bustiers etc.

“… I normally don't work Monday nights … When I arrived, there was only three girls working …”

Lots of dancers and few custies equals a buyer’s market – lots of custies and few dancers equals a seller’s market – sometimes dancers may make better money on off-peak nights when there is less dancer competition.


“… The custies are not allowed to touch us above the waist) …”

Does this mean no-touching of the boobs – so where can they touch – thighs; booty; or no touching at all? Do you grind on them (i.e. sit on their lap while giving the dance)?


If there is no touching in VIP then what’s the difference b/w VIP and a regular dance?


w.r.t. outfits – custies’ preferences will probably be as varied as their preference of girls’ looks/type – the school girl outfit does not do anything for me in particular; but it’s not a deal breaker either – I get turned on by skin; not the lack of it – i.e. the less a dancer is wearing; the more turned on I get (isn’t that why the dancers get naked; i.e. they get naked to turn on guys; not put on more clothes to turn them on) – if a dancer has a particular body feature that in nice/attractive; why cover it up w/ an outfit instead of displaying/advertising it; i.e. if she has a nice butt; wouldn’t it be a better sales technique to show what she has instead of covering it up.


w.r.t. VIP – in most clubs; VIP is to have more privacy in order to do more than one can on the floor; not to do the same thing as on the floor; why pay the extra $$$ and not get anything else; some PLs would do that but those are often the rooks.

Perhaps there are local ordinances that force your club to be a minimal-touch club; in that case all the clubs and dancers are in the same boat and PLs will adapt to not getting much – but in other areas; sex in the VIP is as common as lap-dances (not that every dancer in those clubs has sex in VIP; but many do).

Glad to hear things are going well Alyssa ! Glad you won out over that pushy bitch ! Congratulations !

@Alyssa - A great example of your good karma defeating her bad mojo!

I'm not a big fan of outfits, but when a combo is done right - at least in my eyes - it can be a wallet drainer. For me, the stereotypical Asian schoolgirl in a Sailor Moon type outfit, or a very femme tall Russian chick in a dom style outfit can really do it for me. But those same outfits on other types of girls would have no effect.
But in the long run - just give me naked for every girl, and all is well with the world ;)

You sound like the way how my CF would tell her work in the club.

Good job, girl.

Aly,

School girl, one of my top, if not the best outfit. Now if I ever see another Asian wearing that (my ATF did), I'm a goner!