Entering the mind of a dancer
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is something I wish I could do.
I don't make threads often, but I want to vent about this. Let me first say that I realize these girls have to put up with a lot. They have to talk to dudes they don't want to talk to and get groped during dances. So I'm well aware that to be a dancer you have to be able to tolerate a lot. That said, it's their job and they get compensated VERY well for it. I'd be willing to bet that many of these girls make more $$$ yearly than people with professional jobs without having to have any type of real job skills.
Last night, I'm at this club and as soon as I sit down, this beautiful Latina sits down besides me and introduces herself. We chit-chat a while, but while talking she was constantly on her phone texting/checking facebook WHILE SITTING with me. I understand if a dancer does this while sitting by herself, but constantly texting while sitting with a customer seems very rude and is probably not a good sales technique. To be fair, the club was very slow, but that's still not an excuse.
She sat with me for a while (mainly because the club was dead) and eventually asked for a dance, but I turned it down (although I REALLY did want a dance from her) because I just didn't like the vibe(s) I was getting from her. I can't believe I turned down a hot LATINA, but I didn't like the constant texting and on top of that, clubs in my area have super expensive lap dances (and pasties :( ), so you want to have a good feeling about a dancer before you drop $50 for two, short ass songs just to try her out.
I very rarely think about or ask myself, "Why do dancers do what they do?", but last night had me thinking about that. I don't know, I'm not a dancer, so maybe I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. But too often I see these girls do things that make me think "Why the fuck would you think that's a good sales technique/way to get a customer to buy dances from you?"
I don't make threads often, but I want to vent about this. Let me first say that I realize these girls have to put up with a lot. They have to talk to dudes they don't want to talk to and get groped during dances. So I'm well aware that to be a dancer you have to be able to tolerate a lot. That said, it's their job and they get compensated VERY well for it. I'd be willing to bet that many of these girls make more $$$ yearly than people with professional jobs without having to have any type of real job skills.
Last night, I'm at this club and as soon as I sit down, this beautiful Latina sits down besides me and introduces herself. We chit-chat a while, but while talking she was constantly on her phone texting/checking facebook WHILE SITTING with me. I understand if a dancer does this while sitting by herself, but constantly texting while sitting with a customer seems very rude and is probably not a good sales technique. To be fair, the club was very slow, but that's still not an excuse.
She sat with me for a while (mainly because the club was dead) and eventually asked for a dance, but I turned it down (although I REALLY did want a dance from her) because I just didn't like the vibe(s) I was getting from her. I can't believe I turned down a hot LATINA, but I didn't like the constant texting and on top of that, clubs in my area have super expensive lap dances (and pasties :( ), so you want to have a good feeling about a dancer before you drop $50 for two, short ass songs just to try her out.
I very rarely think about or ask myself, "Why do dancers do what they do?", but last night had me thinking about that. I don't know, I'm not a dancer, so maybe I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. But too often I see these girls do things that make me think "Why the fuck would you think that's a good sales technique/way to get a customer to buy dances from you?"
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It's unfortunate that some dancers have their cell phone as their first priority in life. That was just plain rude and ignorant of her to conduct herself like that. It's good you didn't get dances from her. She probably would have paid more attention to her phone than you during that time.
I had a similar experience recently of wondering "what is that dancer thinking?" I was one of only three customers in the club (Dreamgirls at Ricks, Seattle), about 4 p.m. on a Saturday afternoon. There were about eight dancers on shift. The fourth of those that went on stage finally appealed to me. I was sitting a couple of rows away from the stage. As she ascended the stage, I moved up to the stage, tipped her, and even complimented her when she came over to schmush her boobs in my face. Another patron got up from his seat in the back of the club, walked up to the stage, and left a tip for her that was obviously a lot more than mine.
After her set she went to his seat and they chatted for maybe ten minutes. But, he didn't get any dances from her. She then headed to manager's desk off the main floor. She never came over to me. I realize that with the tip he left, she'd approach him first. But after no sale, why did she just leave the floor without coming over to me? I then headed out of the club. She was still chatting with the manager as I passed by her. I mentioned to her that I would have gotten dances from her, had she come over to me, but now I have to leave; she just said, "Oh, I'm sorry."
I'm thinking that she had to notice that I might be interested in her, yet she didn't even have the sense to approach me for dances. She lost a sale.
In the case of Club_Goer, perhaps she just incorrectly profiled you as not worth her time. Perhaps her whale was coming in in half an hour, and given that, she wasn't willing to expend energy between now and then on anyone who isn't a big spender, since her night is already set. 'course, maybe her memory just sucks, and she can only remember the biggest tipper at the stage, not #2, especially if you were non-descript. I know a girl who, if she gets turned down more than twice, will sulk for at least half an hour before she will approach anyone she doesn't know again, she'd rather talk to the manager or other girls before risking it again
When she got off stage she went to the dressing room. I thought to freshen up but 20 minutes went by and then she suddenly appeared at the table next to me buying drugs. I tapped her on the shoulder and when she turned around I pointed to the Red Bull waiting for her. She said gimme a minute. Then she disappeared into the dressing room again. To stash her buy, I thought. I waited another 15 minutes and then left the club.
She has lost one of her regulars.
so often the case
I had a semi-long term relationship with a stripper several years ago. She was a very well spoken and intelligent girl. Sadly she thought she was a lot smarter than she was and eventually that lead to her demise. Also she would always make the wrong decision, no matter how clear the right decision was, she would make the wrong one. Some of this can be attributed to any woman in general but when it comes to the extreme as in her case, over the years it seems to be the norm with strippers I have met.
These days when I go into a club I'd rather latch onto a 7 who is personable, can carry a conversation and at least acts like she's interested in me versus the 9 that may look like a goddess but could give a fuck less about me other than how much money am I willing to part with during my time with her.
I prefer entering the pussy of a dancer.
If you don't know why they go to groups, you're not paying attention. You might go to a club and buy X amount of dances. If you have a group of 5, perhaps all 5 buy X amount of dances. Granted, not all of them are like that, but I've seen it where this one girl leads them to the lap dance area seemingly for hours on end. It might piss you off, but that one is not hard to explain.
As far as cell phones are concerned, I know the one club I visit regularly has a rule where you can only look at it if you are at their bar. I suppose I never really thought about it, but the fact a different regular club has a ban on cell phone use on the main floor is probably the reason they tend to go and hide after their stage sets are done.
Me too. Couldn't agree more.
In these cases it's important to clearly say why I'm not interested.
That pretty much answers the question IMO – most of these girls have no job skills and often times no life skills either – so not much should be expected and we should not be too surprised nor disappointed – it’s part of the SC world – it’s like been surprised or upset b/c one went to the driver’s license office (or any other inefficient gov office) and got bad service or treatment.
“…eventually asked for a dance, but I turned it down (although I REALLY did want a dance from her) because I just didn't like the vibe(s) I was getting from her …â€
That was a good move IMO – the more one SCs (and reads TUSCL) – the more one develops a bit of a “SC/ROB gut feeling†that tends to raise red flags when dealing with some of these hos – sometimes one’s gut feeling can be wrong; but IME it’s often times been more right than wrong – and having to prepay $50 as you do; not worth not following your SC gut – it’s enough we plunk down a good amount of our hard-earned $$$ - it’s unacceptable to be treated disrespectfully while you are paying someone.
“…I very rarely think about or ask myself, "Why do dancers do what they do?" …â€
Women in general are hard if not impossible to figure out LOL – throw in a woman being a dancer that just adds more fuel to the fire – that is why I personally prefer to keep it business and not get involved in any chit-chat or personal matters – I pay her and if she performs – I pay her some more – and if she doesn’t perform; then she’s black-listed
Just like many PLs may only see dancers as a sexy piece of meat and not a person – a lot of these dancers probably just see us as ATMs and if it wasn’t for the cash they can get from us; they would not bother to give us the time of day – i.e. many of them just tolerate us at best and they would rather not have to deal w/ us if it wasn’t for the cash – so they put in the minimum amount of effort b/c they don’t’ like the PLs nor their jobs and are just doing it b/c of the cash.
Careful there, GoV You know what Nietzsche said about staring into the abyss.
Dancers are addicted to cell phones as a means of recruiting customers to come to the club, checking on what their friends will be doing after work, reading text messages from other part-time employers or as a crutch because they simply have no conversational skills or basic manners.
These days, I don't even try to understand stripper thoughts/motives. They will do what they do.
lopaw- Yeah, that's a great point. This girl was really pretty too, one of those types who can probably sell dances on looks alone.
ranukam- There have been a few times in the past where I've had a bad feeling about a dancer and how she'll perform, but I got a dance with her anyway because her beauty won me over. When I did that, I ended up regretting it big time. This time, I didn't bite. I can still give this chick another shot if I choose. Keep in mind, at minimum I gotta pre-pay $50 just to get a couple of short songs to be able to find out how she'll perform.
Lots of great comments/feedback...thanks guys
Another time there was this really hot girl that was giving me a lot of compliments. I decided to get a couple of lap dances from her and it was a complete air dance. I was disappointed and made a mental note never to get dances from her again. I saw her again a couple of months later and she was looking so damn good. I got dances from her and this time the dances were no holds barred and she ended up being a CF.
The morale of the story is you never know unless you try.
I *have* commented to dancers on the subject, if the offense isn't to egregious, in hopes of fixing the problem, but it doesn't seem to work for very long.