Could, or Should, Strip Clubs Do More to Cater to Older Customers?

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Club_Goer_Seattle
Seattle, Washington
(Mainly for the older pharts)

Nickifree's recent thread, "Gen Y vs. Gen X vs. Baby Boombers strippers," gave me the idea for this subject:

It's often noticed by dancers and customers alike, that college-age strip club patrons don't spend much money in strip clubs. The reason is obvious. The age group that does spend more money is older. I sense that's the above 35 age-group.

However, so much of what goes on in strip clubs seems geared toward the age group that doesn't have much money to spend there: I'm thinking that the music the dancers choose and their costume choices are more to their liking rather than what high paying customers might prefer to hear and see. Perhaps other factors, such as decor and pricing apply.

One area I won't get into is the age of newly hired dancers. Most young customers prefer dancers their own age. However, some older customers also like very young dancers, while others (myself included) prefer older dancers.

If you're an older customer, capable of spending a fair amount of money in strip clubs, what would you like to see clubs change about their operation that would either get you to spend more when you go to clubs, or go more often?

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SlickSpic
11 years ago
For me, I just need really hot dancers with good conversation skills and cheerful personalities.
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gawker
11 years ago
Strip clubs are Disneyland for old farts like me. Sometimes I just want to forget my lumbago or whatever ailment I'm suffering on that day. Sometimes I just want to fool myself into thinking I'm much younger than I am. Or to act like a damned fool if it feels good. When I'm scoping out the beautiful pussy of a 21 year old, I don't care if I'm listening (or not listening) to The Beach Boys or today's latest rapper.
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SnackBox69
11 years ago
No.

But they should do more for the more invested clubber
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gatorfan
11 years ago
Older customers have more money than the youngins
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joker44
11 years ago
Good question. Just not sure how many preferences vary mostly by age rather than some other non-age related factors. Like type of music.

One definite request: Turn the volume DOWN. Music is loud enough when you can have a convo without shouting.

Others? - Comfortable seating both on the floor and in VIP. Attentive waitresses dressed in sexy outfits. More variety in dancer costumes and routines. Even the hackneyed stripper cheerleader, nurse, civvie MILF, or business outfit adapted for stage works. Like an old film you've seen dozens of times it's nice for these themed costumes to reappear every once in a while. But these changes aren't necessarily age-related preferences.

Once beyond the recently post-pubescent male who is satisfied just seeing any bare tits, ass, and pussy, most men enjoy sexy lingerie style stage outfits.

Any change in decor, physical layout, or presentation/routine that enhances fantasy experience of older patron. DJs - minimal talking. Dancers who can carry on a decent convo.

Sadly, it seems that most managers/owners are clueless as to how to run an SC.
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Club_Goer_Seattle
11 years ago
@ Gawker: Two of your points are often discussed by the Strip Club Hound. For those of you unfamiliar with his blog, see:

http://stripclubhound.blogspot.com/

He often comments that strip club music is played much too loud and that that's the easiest problem to fix in a strip club. Also, that most club owners and managers are incompetent in running their clubs.
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SlickSpic
11 years ago
I third to turn down the volume. Being able to carry on a conversation is beneficial for both patron and dancer. Management should understand this.

It would behoove management to cultivate return clientele who happily part with their cash for a guaranteed good time. Just like any other company, a strip club should have a mission statement and spend time putting out a quality product.
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shadowcat
11 years ago
Turn the volume down, hire hot young dances and put a Viagra dispersing machine in the men's room.
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joker44
11 years ago
SC +1 great third rec, lol.
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Yoda
11 years ago
I don't really care what the club does. It's all up to the dancers. While there is certainly a segment of the dancer population who will hang out with the cute young guys for hours and walk away with no money those are not the girls I'm interested in anyway. The smart girls know where the money is.
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Papi_Chulo
11 years ago
Offer AARP discounts
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jackslash
11 years ago
Papi, that's the best idea.
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motorhead
11 years ago
I'm gonna chime in about the LOUD music. Although I would prefer music I'm familiar with, I really don't mind most of the rap, hip hop, R&B that is played. But would they please down the volume. No need for the level some clubs play.
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joker44
11 years ago
Papi +1 Great idea. Let's benefit from our age.
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sclvr5005
11 years ago
Wow didn't realize how old you guys must be. I like the clubs exactly as they are in terms of music, volume, etc. But in the end if the girls ain't right it don't matter what else the club provides.
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Clackport
11 years ago
Yes older customers do spend more money, but you all are forgetting when us younger customers make it rain, that almost evens it out :) Lol



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ATACdawg
11 years ago
What? What are you saying? I can't hear anything anymore.

Did somebody say AARP discounts for us seniors?
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lopaw
11 years ago
I agree with sclvr - I like most club music and the volume is OK. Tho it is kind of ironic that most clubs are geared and set up mainly to attract younger customers but it usually is the old timers that have the $$$ to spend. There are plenty exceptions to this rule, of course. For every oldster living on a fixed income without too much extra cash to spend in the club there is a 30 or 40-something making more than enough income to blow alot of it and never think twice about it.
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farmerart
11 years ago
How many old guys really go to clubs? On my club visits I am usually the oldest guy in the club. I have been told that I look younger than my chronological age so my perceptions about the age of other patrons may be skewed. It doesn't really matter. The overwhelming majority of club patrons that I see are younger than I am.

And, the claim that old guys all have big cash when they go to clubs? My Toronto sweetie tells me that from her experience (about 20 years) the sweet spot for cash-beefed customers is the 35-45 age range.

Sweetie does admit that I am the richest PL that she has encountered in her career.
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jester214
11 years ago
The old guys that are gonna spend money will, to a certain degree, show up regardless of the atmosphere. I'm not sure if that's true of the younger set.

I also wonder if younger guys don't spend more on booze which is what the club really wants.
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Alucard
11 years ago
Yes.
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sharkhunter
11 years ago
I heard one guy complain that a local strip club played the music louder than front row seats at Talladega. I didn't think it was that loud but I haven't been to Talladega. Now the sister club in Columbia, I've heard music so loud that my ears started to ring near the door after I first walked in. You had to literally shout in the ear of someone for them to hear you. You had to shout very loud.

That is too loud. If strippers were employees, someone could call and complain to OSHA that their safety was in danger and that hearing loss is likely and they would come in and either shut the place down or make them pay huge fines or get the music so quiet, it would be a lot less quiet than I would turn it down to.
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sharkhunter
11 years ago
I meant they would turn the music down a lot more than I would.

I would play more heavy metal and classic rock and eliminate all the country and rap. I haven't had much problem with most of the music I hear though. I do visit one club where the music volume is ok with me. Another club in my local area is a little bit loud but my ears don't hurt. It was Platinum Plus in Columbia that occasionally had a problem with super loud music. I know at times the club definitely exceeded OSHA safety limits. It takes really loud music to make my ears start ringing upon walking in.
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AnonymousJim
11 years ago
A. I don't mind loud music. To me, it heightens the senses and adds to the intensity, and sense-heightening is really what the experience is supposed to be about.

B. I can see the thought behind playing music that caters to the age of the spending customers rather than the dancers or younger clientele, but I think it ultimately comes down to what the dancers are comfortable with. Considering how much crap they have to put up with, and considering there's usually an obligation for the dancer to tip the DJ, I would think that a dancer will be most comfortable on stage dancing to music she likes. And, as far as I'm concerned, the happier she is, the happier I will end up being. So I'm OK with the current stuff.

Heck, aside from the obvious reason, perhaps my second-favorite reason for going to clubs is to hear new & interesting music because the girls will often pick stuff that isn't on the radio.
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crazyjoe
11 years ago
Money wins
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motorhead
11 years ago
"perhaps my second-favorite reason for going to clubs is to hear new & interesting music"


Yeah. That's what I tell my wife too.
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SnackBox69
11 years ago
68 LOL
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SlickSpic
11 years ago
I've spent too many hours doing backstage security so my ears are fucked. Add to that all the other shit that my ears have been through and I need to protect my ears.
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DandyDan
11 years ago
First of all, I don't know what is meant by older. At the clubs I go to, the vast majority of the customers there are presumably in their 20's and 30's and that seems unlikely to change no matter what changes occur within the club. Second of all, it seems like all the old folks who potentially could go are either strip club addicts or people like my dad, who's in his 70's, who would never go to strip clubs and based on the older people I know, more are like my dad than the typical older TUSCL poster. I have a hard time visualizing any of my uncles going to a strip club, FWIW.

I do agree on one thing for sure, though. They do need to turn the volume down on the music. To be fair, though, 2 of the 3 places I go regularly have good volume control. The other, OTOH, sets it up so loud that they make you have to choose to get a dance.
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skibum609
11 years ago
If the dancers are pretty I don't give a damn about the rest.
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georgmicrodong
11 years ago
There's other customers?

Huh.
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deogol
11 years ago
Get some hearing protection - either obvious like over the ear muffles or in the ear orange thingies. Gun stores and auto stores will have them.
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Clubber
11 years ago
As one of the older here (thanks sc), I would prefer that I get to choose whatever I wish when I enter. Why, I don't always have the same desires, mood, goal, whatever when I enter. This will never happen, of course, so why concern myself?
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joker44
11 years ago
@A-jim: in some clubs the DJ picks the songs not the dancer. Or the DJ gives the dancer a list and she has to choose from that list.
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just4fun2
11 years ago
A lot of posts referring to age...but no one has mentioned how old they are. Time to show your cards gents.

I'm 54. I still love to hit in the SC's; but usually with the wife these days.

To me, I don't see the need to "cater" to old customers, we've adapted to the changing times quite well thank you. We will continue to do so just like you young bucks will some day.

My only suggestions for SC's in general would be:

1) Clean the damn Men's Room - PLEASE!
2) Sorry, I don't smoke - never have. Please invest in a decent ventilation system.
3) Stop with the additional service charge if I use a credit card.
4) When I order a scotch or bourbon, please give me what I asked for, not some crappy bottom shelf rot gut that you poured into a top shelf bottle.

WHEW...I feel better now. Thanks for letting me vent!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone on TUSCL!
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ATACdawg
11 years ago
One more thing to go with our ideal sound system: DJs who can be understood, not some wanker who sounds like. "Nesss e hjvvvbb Sximerb ....."
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sharkhunter
11 years ago
Pretty girls is what I want. I'm generation X. I thought at one time most of the music I liked was regular rock but someone moved everything I liked several years ago to the heavy metal section. I really do not enjoy wearing ear plugs. I only have routinely worn them in one club before I stopped visiting. I do enjoy classic rock and some of the more recent pop rock and a few songs for 80's and 90's rock. Overall, I have been ok with most of the music. If not, I probably will not visit. That's the reason I never visited some regular night clubs. I hate almost all country music. GIven a choice between hearing someone scratch a chalkboard with nails versus country music, I might pick the chalkboard.
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ilbbaicnl
11 years ago
Maybe the music is loud to drive us old guys into the VIP.

Young custies spend more on booze generally. I don't have a good guess about the ratio of booze profit vs. boob profit. Maybe it varies greatly from club to club.
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Clubber
11 years ago
just,

We did the age thing some time ago. Let it be known I am exactly the age I was last time, plus the years since, which is soon to be 65.
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shadowcat
11 years ago
I'll be 72 in 3 weeks. I plan to celebrate it at Follies.
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Estafador
11 years ago
Generally it doesn't tKe much but a fine young hunny or dozen to get old people in. Thus there is little need to add more incentives for old folks to stay. For a young adult, he can get free pussy much easier and needs more pursuance. Young people start off with preferences. Old people just want young cute girls.
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ATACdawg
11 years ago
Wow! Suddenly I feel like a youngster at 62. Thanks for the lift, guys;-)
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Clubber
11 years ago
Just signed up for Medicare. :( :)
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shadowcat
11 years ago
Clubber - I think that you will like it better than Obama Care.
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Clubber
11 years ago
sc,

I should talk to your about it. I already have insurance through work, so I am not in the same position of many. obamacare? Oh you mean the affordable care act. Calling it obamacare was just fine until the shit hit the fan, then his name was quickly pulled off it by the libs and the ostrich media.
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Alucard
11 years ago
I can thing of some things involving the actual building that can be helpful for seniors/older patrons
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SlickSpic
11 years ago
Wheelchair access, I like your thinking there, Big Al.
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Alucard
11 years ago
^^^ You're in a small minority then Sir. :)
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