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Platinum Plus

West Columbia, South Carolina

I was able to stop by...

I was able to stop by for two brief visits over the last several days. I tend to spend a fare amount of time watching and tipping the dancers on stage, with a preference for…

Dolphin

Jennings Lodge, Oregon

I love this place. Have...

I love this place. Have been to several clubs in the PDX area and I always end up going back to this one. The atmosphere is relaxed and comfortable. 3 dance floors…

Flash Dancer Orlando

Orlando, Florida

As with any club in Orange...

As with any club in Orange County, the rules for this club pretty much stink. But at least Temptations tries to make up for it. Wednesday nights the run a special that after your cover,…

Stars Cabaret

Salem, Oregon

As far as I know this...

As far as I know this is the only strip club in salem. Went there on a saturday nite and it was packed. The atmosphere was what you would expect. They had…

Rio Gentlemen's Club

Los Angeles, California

Had problems with this club. ...

Had problems with this club. Walked in a sat down, and right away a girl comes up to hang on me. But she was nothing special, so I waited for her to go…

Hip Hugger

Kokomo, Indiana

Once again, it was time for...

Once again, it was time for another visit to my favorite club yesterday (7/8). I arrived just a little before 6 (after 6, you will have to pay the $3 cover charge) in order…

Body Shop

San Diego, California

I was in town for the...

I was in town for the weekend and decided to stop in to see if the club had changed from my previous visit when I lived in San Diego years ago. I actually still…

Great Alaskan Bush Company

Phoenix, Arizona

Here I am out west so...

Here I am out west so I had to check out a club. So based on the reviews I went to this club on Wednesday night. It was two for one everything, soft…

BT's Gentlemen's Club

South Miami, Florida

Booby Trap South Miami - now...

Booby Trap South Miami - now called BT's - has definitely improved since last year. I went with a few friends, and there were 3 times as many girls as when I went 6…

Choice Gentlemen's Club

Minneapolis, Minnesota

Choice is one of the smaller...

Choice is one of the smaller clubs in Mpls., but well worth the trip. The girls were all lovely and very talented. Small talk came naturally with the girls and everyone had a…

Danny's Cabaret

Jackson, Mississippi

Went to Danny's on a weeknight,...

Went to Danny's on a weeknight, just to compare to my favorite club Babe's, and make sure my assessments were still correct. They were. Danny's was quite lame. The girls really spent all their time…

New Solid Gold

Jacksonville, Florida

I went to this club on...

I went to this club on July 1, 2004. The prior reviews are accurate. $8 to get in, $3 drink. They try to tell you that you have to keep a drink…

Treasures Houston

Houston, Texas

Some reviewers have complained that they...

Some reviewers have complained that they couldn't find a seat during the evening hours. They ought to arrive at lunch time as I did the other day. I could have had any seat in the…

Vixens Ybor Strip

Tampa, Florida

Made a trip to Tampa on...

Made a trip to Tampa on July 4th weekend and took in some of Tampa's most famous clubs. My first stop was YS on Saturday 7/3. It was my first time at this…

Déjà Vu Seattle

Seattle, Washington

Mixed visit this time. Jessica...

Mixed visit this time. Jessica coaxed me into a two for one right off the bat. She was giving good mileage so I went for a couple more after that. She is…

Erotic Cafe

Pennsauken Township, New Jersey

This is a club that I...

This is a club that I usually don't get to very often. I've enjoyed it in the past although it is very small and usually does not have many dancers at any one given…

Déjà Vu Minneapolis

Minneapolis, Minnesota

recently went to the Vu while...

recently went to the Vu while in Mpls and enjoyed the trip. Weekends seem to be much better for the number of girls. It also helps if the Vikings are in town.…

Creekside Cabaret

Hatfield, Pennsylvania

New BYOB club in Montgomery County....

New BYOB club in Montgomery County. The have a website with descriptions, but expect the minimum of what the web site states... such as the game room consists of 1 pool table and 1 video…

Cheetahs

San Diego, California

One of the best topless clubs...

One of the best topless clubs I've been to. Nice atmosphere and the locals are friendly. Typical 2 song routines, with 2 or 3 separate stages going at once. Occasionally, one of the female bartenders…

Dames & Games

Grand Rapids, Michigan

Went to Sensations last night. Based...

Went to Sensations last night. Based on other reviews, was not expecting much. Granted the laws in Western Michigan are poor for the strip clubs, but the quality of dancers was good at this club.…

Roxy Showgirls

Toledo, Ohio

This place has some hot girls....

This place has some hot girls. Its a bit small and you cant touch above the waist during dances but the quality of girls, friendliness of the whole staff, and the atmosphere are all…

Monty's Showroom Pub

Victoria, British Columbia

Rating this a 5 coz for...

Rating this a 5 coz for me, pretty weird strip club experience. Visiting Victoria on Canada Day the place was pretty busy early evening around 7pm. The smallish bar is immediately to your right…

Tootsie's Cabaret

Miami, Florida

Visited on a Thursday around 4pm....

Visited on a Thursday around 4pm. There were probably 50+ customers in the place and maybe 30 dancers. Most were Hispanic but there was a good mix of black and anglo as well.…

Ruby's II

Bridgeport, Connecticut

I was in the area and...

I was in the area and decided to stop by. It was around four afternoon on the weekday and the club was half empty. Since it was not busy the girls gave you more attention.…

Mons Venus

Tampa, Florida

My final stop during my 4th...

My final stop during my 4th of July weekend in Tampa (see previous reviews) was Mons Venus. Now, as I did with my review of 2001 Odyssey, I have to qualify this score because…

Mons Venus

Tampa, Florida

I give it a 10 because...

I give it a 10 because it is the best thing I've done in North America. God Bless Florida because what goes on there is illegal in most other states. Yes, it is…

Mardi Gras Lounge

Atlanta, Georgia

Got here about 10:00 pm and...

Got here about 10:00 pm and the number 10 was the primary number for this evening. Cover was $10; coupons are apparently available from your hotel concierge as they wouldn't accept our verbal coupon! Appeared to…

Pearls Cabaret

North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina

Was on vacation last week and...

Was on vacation last week and stopped by this place with a buddy. I went in & got the fees-$50 for 1/2 hr, $80 for 1 hr and tips to the girl was up to…

Industrial Strip

Hammond, Indiana

I went to this spot saturday...

I went to this spot saturday night and was VERY pleased danced with Sasha she not only was very beautiful but could hold a conversation. Industrial dosent offer alcohol.They have a wide varity of adult…

Industrial Strip

Hammond, Indiana

At IS some days you find...

At IS some days you find more girls looks in the range of 5 to 8 and sometimes there are more 9's and 10' but I have always found the enthusiasm of the right lady…

2001 Odyssey

Tampa, Florida

Continuing my reviews during my recent...

Continuing my reviews during my recent 4th of July weekend visit to Tampa, I made my first visit to 2001. Now, I must qualify my opinion and score a little bit with the following…

Diamond Dolls

Pompano Beach, Florida

Last month I visited Diamond Dolls...

Last month I visited Diamond Dolls three times. This review is a to say that on all occassions I was very well treated by the dancers. I am not a regular at this…

Captain's Cabaret & Lounge

Laguna Woods, California

I've been going to Creams for...

I've been going to Creams for years and this club is on it's way back. At one time it was probably the best in SoCal. From what I understand, Ownership and Upper Management thought they…

Déjà Vu Showgirls

Mount Carmel, Ohio

I was in the club on...

I was in the club on tuesday 7/6. They have a $2 special all month for July. $2 admission , $2 cokes , and 2 for $20 dances all night ....The girls were 7's plus…

Charisma

Stoughton, Massachusetts

Was in after golf 2 weeks...

Was in after golf 2 weeks ago. Some 8's but mostly 4's to 6's. Many girls had redeeming qualities however - whether it be great bodies, great rack, etc. Had 2 private dances…

Vegas Video, Arcade, and Spa

Sweet Springs, Missouri

what can i say about this...

what can i say about this place but its one of my favorites..Stop by when ever i can matter of fact planning on going tomorrow night 7-09-04...ill let you know how that trip goes...ive always…

Ritz Cabaret

Baltimore, Maryland

This was my first visit to...

This was my first visit to a Baltimore Club, so I don't have much basis for comparison. It was, however, a bit disappointing. Seemed more like DC in that girls danced on a stage behing…

Bottoms Up Club

Fayetteville, Arkansas

I had a great time on...

I had a great time on my most recent excursion to Bottoms Up, and must again give my experience a solid 8. I acknowledge that everything the other reviewers say about this club is…

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What do we learn on these boards?

Mouse and Verfolgung had an interesting exchange on another thread about opinions. I've been reading this board since it's inception as well as a few other SC related boards. My question is, Has anybody actualy learned anything or formed an…

Subi's Place

Southgate, Michigan

Hot Girls, thats really all I...

Hot Girls, thats really all I have to say. I was amazed at the fact that this club was so good considering the low number of reviews on this site. Consistent detroit mileage…

Pink Poodle

San Jose, California

This club blows. My brother...

This club blows. My brother and I stopped in recently and the place was pretty packed. It's small and it appeared that some of the patrons were homeless. Every girl in the…

Centerfold's Cabaret

Phoenix, Arizona

I really like this club. ...

I really like this club. I haven't visited at night in a while, and made a visit on a Wednesday night recently. Club is medium size, but recently has expanded to nearly double the floor…

Ballpark Tavern

Bristol, Pennsylvania

after getting busted a while back...

after getting busted a while back this club has undergone a makeover. the inside was remodeled. i have visited several times, all on weekday afternoons. the quality of the dancers is probably…

Hip Hugger

Kokomo, Indiana

Finally made it to HH last...

Finally made it to HH last Thurs night for the first time. Directions to the club were good and had no trouble finding. Decent neighborhood and no worry about parking. Cover was…

Jaguars Gentlemen's Club

Indianapolis, Indiana

Tried this place again after several...

Tried this place again after several months, and in my opinion, the quality of the girls has really gone down. Seems like ever since Lexi left, it's gone downhill. Most of the girls I saw…

Heavenly Bodies

Elk Grove Village, Illinois

Had a great time at this...

Had a great time at this club. Score of 7 only because no topless or nudity. Topless is available for a $15 VIP room dance to a very quick song. VIP dances are…

Carnival Book Store

Brooklawn, New Jersey

this place has apparently closed down....

this place has apparently closed down. it is never opened and a big sign has been put up that says "no trespassing". not much of a disappointment considering how crappy it was in…

Player's Gentlemen's Club

Detroit, Michigan

Parking is valet-only and costs $4....

Parking is valet-only and costs $4. The club is spacious and clean. Drink service was excellent and the waitress was friendly. I visited on a Saturday night, and there were a good number of…

The Pony

Evansville, Indiana

This club is now called Stephanie's....

This club is now called Stephanie's. The owner remarried. This once was a nude club, but now is topless on stage. Trying to return to nude dancing. Single large stage.…

Scandals

New York, New York

I don't know where I went...

I don't know where I went wrong. I was there late on Wednesday (6/30) night. There were 4 girls on stage dancing, 2 more at the bar and virtually NONE on the prowl. I got…

The Raven

Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania

ive been going to this club...

ive been going to this club for many years. several years back, i went in during the afternoon to find the only entertainment available was the ugliest stripper i had ever seen in my…

Top Hat Lounge

Fort Dodge, Iowa

This is a fun club to...

This is a fun club to go to. There are usually 4 girls working. A couple from Des Moines and a couple form the Twin Cities. The girls dance on stage for…

Baby Dolls

Dallas, Texas

As always when I head back...

As always when I head back to Dallas, I swing by Baby Dolls. It is head & shoulders above the rest. Proof positive last Thursday nite. Was there for several hours, 8-12. $20 cover, drinks…

Foxy

El Paso, Texas

I've been here twice, you almost...

I've been here twice, you almost feel like your being interrogated when you enter. First time I never got approached, but the second time I did - and it wasnt that great. Okay…

Lamplighter Lounge

El Paso, Texas

Topless club indeed, but both times...

Topless club indeed, but both times i've been here were both on Sundays - and both times had really good times. No private area for Lap dances, but the girls try to and take you to…

Montana Hideaway Gentlemen's Club

El Paso, Texas

I might go somewhere else as...

I might go somewhere else as a first thought - but if friends were going here - I'd go again. Went on a Sunday night in Dec 03. Girls mostly were 4-8's, one 9 thrown…

Jaguars

El Paso, Texas

only one reason I didn't give...

only one reason I didn't give this club a 10 - it's pricey compared to other clubs. But you get what you pay for. Awesome atmosphere, very nice looking ladies. Not too agressive - but you…

Cabaret Club

El Paso, Texas

I have been here twice, once...

I have been here twice, once in December 03, and about May of 03. The reviews said it was a pretty good bang for the buck. First time, it was still topless. Quite a…

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What is the strangest/most unusual stage act you ever saw?

I have heard of, but never saw flaming nipples. Would like to, though... Once a gal who had been a drum majorette did a gig with her twirling baton, minus the outfit. It was kinda cute when she twirled between…

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IMPORTING HATE

THOMAS SOWELL: IMPORTING HATE OF AMERICA "We already have enough homegrown America-haters in this country without importing any more, whether from Mexico or the Middle East. But neither political party has the guts to put a stop to it," says…

Vixens Ybor Strip

Tampa, Florida

This place is becoming my new...

This place is becoming my new favorite. I tried seeveral times in the afternoon and once at night. For my style, day is better-more relaxed, but the women may be a bit higher…

Diamonds Gentlemen's Club

Bangor, Maine

Went to Diva's on June 18,...

Went to Diva's on June 18, 2004. This is not a "nude" club(g-string and pasties). You can arrange a private "nude" show(which I didn't do). The dancers were okay, but seemed very inexperienced.…

Pallas Club

Portland, Oregon

This club is kinda slow on...

This club is kinda slow on weeknights, maybe because it is further from downtown than most, but it's a pretty relaxed place with absolutely no pressure to buy drinks or dances. I've never been…

Private Eyes

New York, New York

Mellow vibe here. The cast-offs from...

Mellow vibe here. The cast-offs from Flashdancers work here. If you are looking for a beer and boob watching this is good place. If you want a lap dance you've come to the wrong place.…

Club Venus

Detroit, Michigan

All's about the same here on...

All's about the same here on days, a few of the old favorites, some new. My favorite spot for voluptious women in town! They charge the $2 parking fee all the time now,…

Ruby's II

Bridgeport, Connecticut

I have been here about 10...

I have been here about 10 times in the past few years. It always offers nice looking ladies with medium mileage, meaning nice grinding and full contact above the waist but no extras. This…

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YOU MAKE THE CALL !!!

Alright, time for a little fun. Here's a scenario and I would like for you to tell me what you would expect to happen: A professional hockey team decides to visit a SC for lunch on a Sat. afternoon. The…

Treasures Houston

Houston, Texas

I got there at about 7pm....

I got there at about 7pm. If you've read any of my previous reviews, you know I'm a scotch drinker. After sitting down for about 30 minutes, and turning down 5 or so offers for…

Royal Palace

Washington, D.C., District of Columbia

I hadn't been to the Royal...

I hadn't been to the Royal Palace for a long time. It was a lot better than my last visit! Went in the afternoon on a weekday, so it wasn't too busy (maybe 10 customers). No…

The Piccadilly Club

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

This is one of the nicer...

This is one of the nicer clubs with primarily black girls and customers. As a white guy I felt quite comfortable there, as all the girls and the bartenders were friendly. On a Tuesday night…

Atlantis Gentlemen's Club

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Very cool place. I haven't...

Very cool place. I haven't been in there for a while, but it appears to have been remodeled a bit. Bartenders are quick, and easy on the eyes. Crowd is local Philly…

A Touch of Class

Fort Dodge, Iowa

This is a great club to...

This is a great club to go see soem quality women. Many are from Des Moines or Minneapolis. Stage dances for 3 songs. Dancers come to the floor doing personal dances for $1 for each patron.…

I70 Main Event

Topeka, Kansas

Stopped by here on Monday July...

Stopped by here on Monday July 5. Cover was $5.00. The place had a sparse crowd until 9pm, I dont not recommend going before 9:30 or so unless you want to have a drink and…

Time Out Gentlemens's Club

Tyler, Texas

Went on a Thursday night as...

Went on a Thursday night as a last minute bachelor outing. Got there about 12:45am and was told we couldn't bring in any booze anymore. The waitress (Amanda) was extremely courteous and told us to…

New Solid Gold

Jacksonville, Florida

Went here on a Saturday early...

Went here on a Saturday early afternoon. Selection was fair, good looking ladies, but most were staying in the back only coming out when it was their turn on stage. Got a 3…

Brad's Brass Flamingo

Indianapolis, Indiana

I recently visited the club on...

I recently visited the club on a Wednesday afternoon, and had a great time with Stormy. Over 5'6" with long brown hair and a great smile, she was very good at her job.…

Boomers

Smyrna, Georgia

Boomers is definitely getting better over...

Boomers is definitely getting better over the past few months. About 9 new girls have been hired and they're all under 21. Their looks range from a 6 to 8.5. Cover for…

Smiles Nightclub

Poughkeepsie, New York

I haven't been here in a...

I haven't been here in a while, but last time I was there the dancers were average at best. It is an all nude club catering mostly to the stage show. If you…

Déjà Vu Ypsilanti

Ypsilanti, Michigan

Monday was a good night for...

Monday was a good night for customers, way more girls than guys. The girls were nice and didn’t hound you for dances. They did ask but not overbearing. I forgot how annoying the drink hustle…

Seven Seas

Tampa, Florida

I had one night in Tampa...

I had one night in Tampa a was looking of the high milage place. There was no cover, and no alcohol. Had a $6 red bull. There were 5 dancers -- only 2 were slim.…

Playhouse Club

Romulus, Michigan

Nice clean club. Good food,...

Nice clean club. Good food, which is not normal at a strip club and reasonable drinks. Dancers are slightly above average with a few diamonds. The private dances are well worth the cost…

Flash Dancers

Jacksonville, Florida

This was a fun club to...

This was a fun club to go to. The girls dance on the bar and make their way to a center stage and back again. Quite a novelty. Varied crowd, got the…

Big Earl's Goldmine

Des Moines, Iowa

LONG REVIEW I went to Big Earl's...

LONG REVIEW I went to Big Earl's on February 28, and then months later on consecutive Saturdays, 6/26 and 7/3. This is an easy club to get to off I-80. Somewhere around exit…

Luckys Cabaret

Vernon, Connecticut

Visited this afternoon around 3:30pm to...

Visited this afternoon around 3:30pm to see if the stories about the afternoon girls are true. A small number of guys there hanging out around the stage with about 8 girls that I noticed…

Treasures Houston

Houston, Texas

Was back at this, my favorite...

Was back at this, my favorite club recently. The usual descriptions of Treasures apply---very busy at night with much more intimate situation during the day. At night it is really hard to get…

Hip Hugger

Kokomo, Indiana

I have made yet another trip...

I have made yet another trip to the "World Famous Hip Hugger" and yet again have had a fantastic time. I had several lappers and a great conversation with Chris, who knows what she…

Subi's Place

Southgate, Michigan

Probably the best club in Michigan...

Probably the best club in Michigan (although I haven't been to nearly all of them). Best combo of looks and mileage youll find in MI. The reasons this club doesnt get a 9…

Stiletto

Nanuet, New York

I travel to Spring Valley often...

I travel to Spring Valley often on business and frequent this club each time. The dancers are all friendly and not pushy, most are even willing to just sit and talk. Cover +…

Follies

Atlanta, Georgia

Follies gets a 9, and if...

Follies gets a 9, and if you don't live in Atlanta, please understand that it would be probably no better than a 7 or even a 6 in other places like Dallas or Detroit. It…

BT's Executive Club

Dearborn, Michigan

This is a nice clean club....

This is a nice clean club. Lots of dancers, most are better looking than the average stripper. High pressure for dances, which are reasonable & enjoyable, but not very private. Overall, a…

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How common is on-stage toy and/or finger insertion?

In all my travels, I've come across only one city where toy and/or finger insertion is common place on-stage ... San Francisco. In one or two other clubs, a dancer "snuck" a finger inside... but she was trying to…

Foxy Lady

Providence, Rhode Island

The Foxy Lady is the class...

The Foxy Lady is the class of the Northeast strip joint scene. The best time to go is around 6-8 pm because you can catch the end of the day shift and the beginning…

Centerfolds Cabaret Las Vegas

Las Vegas, Nevada

All the women have fake breasts,...

All the women have fake breasts, and the lap dances were nothing special. Some of the women were very attractive (9's)

Centerfolds Lounge

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Your classic Philly neighborhood bar, off...

Your classic Philly neighborhood bar, off the beaten track, full of regulars and walk-ins. Narrow and dark, real girls just makin' a living, not a high pressure, big money joint. Get topless behind the bar…

Industrial Strip

Hammond, Indiana

I attended on a Monday afternoon...

I attended on a Monday afternoon and is probably why my rating is lower than most reviews for this club. There were 6 girls working (3 blonds, 2 blacks, and 1 brunette) on a scale…

Dream Girls

Minneapolis, Minnesota

YAWN - Went there last week....

YAWN - Went there last week. 2 other patrons there. I found out why. Average to below average dancers, all money hungry wont stop bothering about lap dances. And the everyother song "special dances" is…

2001 Odyssey

Tampa, Florida

I took my wife there a...

I took my wife there a couple of weeks back. We had the time of our life. The dancer gave my wife an amazing lap dance, and I was sitting, watching and enjoying…

Bar Downtown

Montréal, Quebec

Stopped by the...

Stopped by the downtown during a brief stay in montreal. This place is a great club compared to US clubs, but I felt average compared to canadian clubs. Girls were super hot,…

Ron's Barbary Coast

Gardena, California

OK. I haven't been into RBC...

OK. I haven't been into RBC or 1st Kings across the street since I was 22 years old. How do I know? I know because I moved out of Los Angeles before I turned 23…

Kappa Men's Club

Kappa, Illinois

I have visited this club some...

I have visited this club some months back and it's the best place to hange out in the Bloomington/Normal IL area. The club is kind of in the middle of nowhere, so you have…

Scarlett’s Rose

Round Rock, Texas

This review is based on a...

This review is based on a recent visit around lunch time. The first impression of this place is a little low due to the construction that is going on. It is hard to…

The Club

Tyngsborough, Massachusetts

It's my understanding that this club...

It's my understanding that this club only closed this week for renovations, and will be re-opening this weekend. The weekend of the 9th of July. This place needed to be renovated, I hope they keep…

Obsession

Heroica Nogales, Sonora

I had a great time at...

I had a great time at this club about a month ago, on a Saturday. The selection was good, and I decided to go with an attractive brunette for one hour of private room…

Chicago Club

Tijuana, Baja California

when you walk through the red...

when you walk through the red curtains, the music and heat are truely blazing. this club doesnt have a floor show til about 10pm, when the girls and customers start showing up. the stage aka…

PT's Brooklyn

East St. Louis, Illinois

Platinum used to be an independant...

Platinum used to be an independant club but is now owned by the PT's change. Despite that there has been almost no change in how the club is run. This club varies a lot…

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Spreading American Feminism is destroying industrialized countries

Deep pessimism infecting many aspects of Japanese society By Michael Zielenziger TOKYO - Kenji has seldom left his bedroom in five years. On a good day, when he forces himself, he can almost get to the front door of his mother's small…

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SkyBox Heavenly Bodies and Cowboys Strip Club Owner Makes NO $$$

Strip-club owner jousts with IRS -------------------- By David Jackson and Ray Gibson Tribune staff reporters July 4, 2004 Suburban strip club owner Michael G. Wellek once said there was a simple reason he didn't file personal income tax returns for years: He wasn't making enough money. "It's…

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Exotic Dancers Wanted USA'S Largest Agency Up To $500/HR

Welcome to Centerfold Strips – the largest upscale adult entertainment company in the United States. We are a professional, licensed booking agency for adult entertainment. Centerfold Strips is a full service entertainment agency specializes in casting, scouting, booking, promoting, training,…

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Weekend Links 7/03/04

...something funny. Have a good 4th of July. ...little girls beauty kit....funny but kind of sick. http://tobasco.ctit.utwente.nl/~kosterj/BeautyKit.mov ...porn for the blind (sound). Luv the "brown roots". http://slackcrew.com/Blood_PuP/docs/blind_porn.html ...man milk or moo milk? http://www2.b3ta.com/man-milk-or-moo-milk/ ...how to be a porn star. http://www.porncitynews.com/howtobeapornstar.htm ...thanks to microsoft, someday when you touch a dancers…

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What, precisely, is a "10", anyway?

I read many reviews on here, and a good number of them say that the girls range from 5-8, or they say there are 2 7's, 1 8, and 2 9's, or whatever. Is it all pure physical looks,…