Comments by RonJax2

It's back! I see a send message link on everyone's profile page now. Thanks founder!

> Perhaps members could pitch in here if it was a worthwhile feature. Since you asked for feedback... I think it's 100% worthwhile to have active dancers on the site. I think there's insight dancers can offer that we won't get in their absence. For example, the OP here, @Cruz_LV once explained to me that in Vegas, dancers have to tip out the VIP host if the PL doesn't offer the VIP host a tip. So in Vegas you need to plan on that extra 10-20% ask for the hostess at the end of your dance. Another dancer here @bubbleyum has posted some really insightful comments about being an ethical PL at an extras club. I could go on, but my point is there's incredible value to the content of the site to have a lot of strippers participating. And I think you'll have a whole lot less of them if they don't get free VIP.

I've cut and pasted below a reply I offered to a similar thread from a few months ago. Here's the top 10 tips I'd have for newbies in TJ: 1. Read the reviews, so you know what to expect, what to pay, how to avoid things like the dreaded $30 wine ficha, etc. My own most recent three part review was chocked full of info: https://tuscl.net/review/408137 2. Pick up Babbel and study some Spanish. You don't have to be fluent, a little goes a long way. 3. Set a budget up front. Bring what you can afford to spend and expect that you'll want to spend it all. 4. Budget for plenty of fichas so that you can find the right chicas to take on arriba. Be direct with the chicas about what you want. For example, not all chicas will do LFK/DFK, but if you are upfront that you are looking for "una chica que le guste muchos besos" you'll find one that will. 5. HK is the "queen of dragons" of strip clubs and it's worth getting a room at Cascadas if you plan on staying long or doing multiple arribas. Chicago Club is a solid alternative to HK and worth a visit too. 6. Before you leave the US, create a Google Voice account and link it to a WhatsApp account, that will give you a way to message most chicas should you need it. 7. Bring a bluetooth speaker. A fun ficha activity is to work on a playlist for your arriba with a chica. 8. If you like lap dances and your budget can support it, I highly recommend doing VIP rooms at either HK or CC. At a cost of $110 per hour, with a tip to your chica of $80-100, these rooms are a great value and hot way to warm up for a VIP. In contrast, the privado rooms last only a song and are a terrible value. 9. If you can, get SENTRI / Global Entry to avoid the long crossing back to the US. If you're not able to do that, look into the bus back to the border, which will still save lots of time if the crossing is crowded. 10. Once you're back, make sure to post a good review, so that those of who can't make it to TJ that often can live vicariously through you! A final warning: TJ will ruin US strip clubs for you. Be prepared for the fact that you will want to return, TJ is not an adventure you can just tick off your bucket list. Feel free to post more direct questions or DM me. I'm jealous of you for getting to experience TJ for your first time, you WILL have a blast. Post a good trip report when you're back!

I just looked at your profile page and it says you're premium? I think you are all set.

Thanks for the review, makes me eager to get back down there

Wow @Muddy what made you think to resurrect this ancient thread? Did you have an incident involving a dancer and club soda recently? 🤣

@Book Guy: it sounds like cheap is what you're looking for in a hotel? If so, there's the Budgetal Pompano Beach that's literally walking distance from Cheetah Pomp. I haven't stayed there so I can't say I'd recommend. I've stayed at the Hampton Inn Pompano off 95 before, not terrible not great, but also cheap. Inland Pompano is kind of industrial, so plenty of cheap hotels there. If you want something nicer, stay at one of the hotels on the beach, or the Hard Rock, which is a bit further to the south. To the OP, just a to +1 everything @Dolfan said, he was incredibly helpful to me in knowing what to expect on my first trip to Pompano.

> After watching democrats support the rioters on college campuses Yeah, which democrats were those exactly? These protestors are protesting the Biden administration, and they're a godsend for the American far right. The fact is, like communist agitators in the Wiemar republic, these far left Gaza protestors are more likely to have the effect of helping to electing a far right government that weakens or even ends our republic, much more so than they are likely to have any impact on US policy in Israel or Gaza. > I decided to send Trump money This proves my point to a T.

I wish more people were paying attention to what Trump was actually saying on the campaign trail. It's scary, this is a whole different Trump than the one who ran in 2016. This NYT article captures it well: Donald Trump Has Never Sounded Like This | https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/magazine/trump-rallies-rhetoric.html Choice quotes from that article: > We will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the communists, Marxists, fascists. We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country. We will rout the fake-news media until they become real. We will evict Joe Biden from the White House, and we will finish the job that we started better than anybody has ever started a job before. > When I asked the political historian Federico Finchelstein what he made of the speech, he replied bluntly: “This is how fascists campaign.”

> They would not want to cause their friends (Soros, Biden, et al) any trouble. This is the most inane thing I've read all week. Newflash: GAZA PROTESTORS ARE PROTESTING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. They're weakening Biden, amplifying voter apathy on the left, and creating fodder for 24/7 coverage by Fox, OANN and other right-wing propaganda outlets. Just like communist agitators on German campuses in the Wiemar republic, the impact these protests will have will not be to encourage more leftist policy on the Israel-Gaza conflict, it will be to potentially help elect a far right government that will overthrow our republic. The idea that Biden or establishment democratic donors like Soros would be behind this is infantile. What would Biden possibly have to gain from all this chaos on our campuses? > I believe they could find people who had traveled to or from Gaza, Iran, and Lebanon and received money from groups known to be connected to international terror financing. I don't think this idea is that far fetched. These protests have all the hallmarks of being marred by outside agitators. I also wouldn't be shocked if some of the online or even in person protests have been amplified by the Chinese or Russia disinformation machines, as Gaza-Israel is exactly the kind of fractious issue that totalitarian propaganda machines love to throw kerosene on.

@founder should get in on this. I’m sure TUSCL was used to train these models too

> I’ll probably go easy on the alcohol too to avoid mixing. That sure takes the fun out of the evening though! I feel like half the point of using vitamin V recreationally is that it's the antidote to whiskey dick. > My return flight is a few minutes past 6 am so I’m planning to end my night at 3 am. Is your flight out of MIA or FLL? If out of MIA, this might be a reason to hit up Tootsie's as a last stip. It would be on your way back from Pompano Beach to the MIA airport. And it's open 365/24/7 I believe. Otherwise, you're going to have a miserable one trying to kill time between 2 AM when the Pompano Beach clubs close and 6 AM when your flight leaves.

Chavelas always used to alwayas have live music on the weekends, but my last trip they were renovating the part with the stage so I don't know if this is still the case. I've also never been, but @PutaTester has posted a positive review of La Gloria. https://tuscl.net/review/405087 LG is a taxi dance bar, where you tip to dance with the ladies, I believe I read the music is often live.

If high mileage is important, I'd second the suggestions for the clubs near the DTW airport, or in Pompano Beach (near Fort Lauderdale.) Then again, if you're going to take the trouble to fly to either one of these places from Canada, why not just go the extra few miles and fly to SAN and go to Tijuana? For affordable (with good mileage but not like DTW or PB), you might consider Philly, Atlanta, or Phoenix.

> Should I follow a particular order to visit these clubs... Should I also add Tootsie’s as a stop since this is a bigger club that I’m familiar with? I'll second the suggestion that if you're flying into FLL, you should just stick with the Pompano three. Miami (and Tootsie's which is a great club but more expensive than the Pompano 3) is a pretty long drive. You'd have between 7 PM and 2 AM to work the clubs. Honestly that might only be time for two clubs. I would hit Booby Trap first (this is my personal fav of the 3), then plan to hit Cheetah late night, and then only plan on Diamond Dolls as a third option if you're not having fun at BT or Cheetah at any point. > That being said, should I pop a V pill before starting the night so I can release multiple times if I have to? What I would do as a recreational V user is go for round 1 without it. Then I'd pop the pill after completing round 1, so that you're ready for round 2. That or split it up, and take half early and half late. In my experience, V only lasts about 3 hours so not enough time for an entire evening and multiple pops. > No hotel booked as I plan to spend the night between these strip clubs before heading to the airport at around 3 am for my return flight. How the heck did you get a flight at 3 AM? I've never heard of a flight that late/early. Bear in mind that the Pompano clubs close at 2 AM. Tootsie's is open later I think, but again, it's pretty far from FLL.

> Is there ANY reason to go to Chavelas? Besides the obvious - it's where you'll find the fresh chicas just starting their shift, Chavelas has it's charm. It's a cool vibe when there's a live band, I've had fun dancing with chicas in there. I would say, I'd rather have the option of banda music and a more Mexican vibe than have them knock that wall down and make it all hong kong. The variety of Chavelas, HK, and Miami is nice, IMHO.

@CJ, if I didn't see you post good advice on SoCal and TJ from time to time, I'd think you were a bot here to sow political discord. Question for you: how do you afford this hobby without being a "greedy capitalist"? Surely the money you're spending in TJ, COI, on Figueroa street has to come from somewhere?

Leftist Extremists and Rightist Extremists: Both don't see me as human and want to deprive me of my natural rights. - Signed Businessman and Unashamed Capitalist

I suppose going all the way to Tijuana is not an option for you? There's plenty of voluptuous women there.

I've opinioned on this topic a lot via snoo forums, before. One thing people miss in this discussions is that it's possible to simultaneously feel two ways about the same thing. The "duality of man" thing. This is how I honestly feel about most of my clients. They annoy the shit out of me and a bitch about them all the time, yet, I can also find common ground and enjoy a beer with most when the situation calls for it.

Thanks for the updates. I've been tentatively planning a trip and trying to decide between Sat-Tue or Thu-Sat. I definitely want to check out the smaller clubs this time around, so it would see based on your review and updates that I might have better luck on the Thursday and Friday nights? (Even though it does seem you lucked out with one Monday pull from GP?)

> I asked if she could do ficha first but she said no, arriba only. That's odd. I wonder how she makes her 100 ficha quota. Sounds like you had a blast your first time, OP, thanks for the review.

Puta is like saying bitch or whore which I would avoid because latina dancers like all others give better treatment to respectful customers.

> I negotiated him down to $120 which included a bucket of 10 beers. Interesting. Did he just give you a bucket to bring back with you or did he actually come to your room at Cascadas with the bucket? Interesting too that Cascadas didn't try to charge you anything, I wonder if that lasts. Either way, I definitely want to peak into GP next time I'm there!

Thanks for the thorough review OP!

This kid impresses me, and furthermore, I don't see the issue with what he did. He saw a gap in the market for information and filled it, using the tools he had available. The consequence might be that some Scots wikipedia entries contain grammar errors, but it's better than having nothing. Anyway, I bet he goes on to do some impressive things.

@shailynn: > To me it sounds like the OP understands the price increase but is also adding that he feels Tijuana not only increased prices but is also price gouging. The increased prices in general don't feel like gouging to me. I think it's a rational response from any business in this situation, where they primarily take a foreign currency that's losing value versus the domestic currency. I think it's exactly like @booji is saying. What does feel like price gouging, to me, are bar fines. Those didn't exist in 2020. When I first started going in 2022, they were only infrequently enforced and were $50/chica/hour. Now they START at $110/chica/hour but if it's busy will try to charge you even more, and it's rigorously enforced. The main pretext of these barfines wasn't USD/MXN prices though, it was a serial killer who preyed on women at HK. As a result the club had to hire the management staff needed to track chicas in the rooms, so of course they're going to have them enforce barfines too. That one deplorable psycho ruined TLN at HK. > do you think there’s any correlation to the exorbitant price increases and the cartels getting involved The Cartels have always been rumor to be involved, that's not a new thing. And, you can't eat avocados without indirectly benefiting the Cartels. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2023/02/08/rival-drug-cartels-profit-mexican-avocados-us-police-work/69840227007/ They're everywhere and they don't stop having Cartels in Mexico, but I doubt they're driving price increases. I would observe that the rising MXN/USD rate is likely to the detriment of most Cartel operations, because like the chicas at HK, they're doing business in USD.

Yeah, I'll second what @PoundKing is saying about variety and tastes. OP I think your plan to hit all 3 clubs is a good one, it's probably what I would do if I had 4 nights to spend in DTW. And if you have an amazing time at Flight on your first night, no reason you can't call an audible and return there earlier than Thursday. And FWIW, I don't think you'll miss the talent if you arrive at 10 PM. Most girls are going to be working a night shift that goes from around 6-7 PM to close.

I'm always down to improve my mongering Spanish, thanks for the tip OP. I wonder if I can use this word in Mexico too? "Chicas" can be quite ambiguous as it literally just means "girls".

@Dan3635, that comment is very useful! One club it doesn't mention which OP might consider is Centerfold's Houston. I've been before and had an amazing time. And it sounds like Centerfold's is the kind of experience OP is looking for. @ReverendHorniBastard's recent review of Centerfold's may be helpful to OP: https://tuscl.net/review/407036

^ I wouldn't blame the workers or the customers for revolting over poker room pooled tips. As a patron, pooled tips make tipping feel like tax, not a gratuity. I don't mind gratuities where they are expected, and I like showing my appreciation for someone delivering good service. But if I'm tipping everyone on the damn shift, this isn't a gratuity, it's tax. And pooled tips obviously suck too for the workers that hustle the hardest.

RE: FIV, my ATF complained that she got UTIs from FIV at the foam show. And UTI means no work for these chicas, so I get it.

> "I haven't ate in 3 days" Lol, no one feeds these chicas, it's sad. That said, I've ended a few arribas by taking chicas to dinner at Azul. It's cheap and I think this is a high value play and a nice way to wind down a fun time.

I'm 50-50 on whether I'd lick Stormy's anus. I've never tried analingus before, but I suppose if I were to, I'd want the lady to be more my type and I like spinners. That said, Stormy is pretty hot, and if I did lick her ass, I wouldn't be embarrassed about it, that's for sure. But I'm also not a progressive by any stretch or measure, so I suppose I don't fit into your hypothesis.

> 42 girls on for the evening. Seems believable to me. Assume at any given point in time there's 5-6 dancers downstairs and 4 on stage, that leaves about 30 dancers scattered over roughly a dozen booths, dozen tables and the bar. I bet it was fun there that night. And thanks for the review.

Pooling tips is vaguely socialist. A stricter definition of socialism wouldn't include it, as it has nothing to do with the government owning the means of production. But either way it's a poor practice, and if a club I frequented engaged in such a practice, I would tip less and probably go less. I definitely tip less at the casino knowing I'm tipping into a pool of every croupier or dealer who worked the last 24 hours. And personally, as a fan of capitalism, I've always enjoyed the purely capitalist nature of the strip club and admire strippers who do well in this environment. Most strippers are really their own business owners, some quite successful, and I'm impressed by that. So in short, I agree with @PuddyTat69, @skibum and others here that it's a crappy idea. I hope these strippers win their lawsuit.

It's enormously difficult to keep up with all of Trump's criminal cases, especially with the noise of the civil suits he's involved with. If you focus only on his criminal suits, I think it's hard to argue he's the WORST criminal: Tracking the Trump criminal cases | https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/ The most serious of the crimes he's accused of are election interference. That's serious. And, he's mislead so many people with lies about the 2020 election being stolen, I think that's damaging to our democracy. But there are worse criminals. Trump wasn't (yet) throwing dissidents out of helicopters, like Augusto Pinochet. He wasn't committing a genocide like Hitler. He didn't cause a Holodomor like Stalin. Surely you can think of hundreds of WORSE criminals in this regard. And if you mean WORSE criminal in terms of least effective. I worry you're wrong. Trump's legal strategy in all these cases will be to "deny, delay and denigrate." At the core of the strategy is that if he's re-elected president, he can pardon himself and his co-conspirators once back in office. Given that he's in a dead heat with Biden in recent polls, this isn't a terrible strategy from an "effectiveness" standpoint.

@PT > "The only people blaming Biden for high inflation are right wing media." False. David Lynch of the Washington Post (right wing media my left nut) says 3-4% of inflation (in 2022) was directly attributable to Biden's American Rescue Plan. I actually agree with you that the ARP is one of many causes of inflation. It added $1.9T to the federal debt and that's inflationary. I think I acknowledged in prior posts that pandemic recovery measures under both Trump and Biden played a major role in igniting inflation. FWIW, I've also read the David Lynch Article you're referring to, and largely agree with it's conclusion: Biden’s rescue plan made inflation worse but the economy better | https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/10/09/inflation-economy-biden-covid/ Lynch also acknowledges the major role several of Trump's rescue plans, including the $2.1T dollar CARES Act. What's odd to me is that you see only the American Rescue Plan, when the reality is there were several large COVID aid packages, most of them under Trump (whom you do not seem hold to account in the slightest.) According to the US government, there were six major COVID relief packages signed into law \ https://www.pandemicoversight.gov/about-us/pandemic-relief-program-laws: 1. The Coronavirus Preparedness and Response Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2020 (Total $7.8B) 2. The Families First Coronavirus Response Act (Total $15.4B) 3. The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, (CARES Act) (Total $2.1T) 4. Paycheck Protection Program and Health Care Enhancement Act (Total $483B) 5. The Coronavirus Response and Relief Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2021 Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021 (Total $900B) 6. The American Rescue Plan of 2021 (Total $1.9T) Trump signed 1-5. Biden signed number 6. Roughly $3.6 trillion for Trump and $1.9 for Biden. Why are you honing in on Biden's pandemic spending as the sole cause of inflation? And we haven't even gotten into the worthiness of any of these aid packages. My personal opinion is that there was probably *some amount* of COVID aid and stimulus deficit spending was necessary, even if it meant paying the inflation price later. I think we overshot the mark, but fortunately not as bad as many of our international friends (where inflation has been worse). I think some of the spending was particularly odious, especially the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), whose loan forgiveness provisions made it effectively a cash transfer to business owners/shareholders. You could argue this was necessary maybe for restaurateurs retail business owners, but the PPP applied to every industry, even in places like tech, finance and health care where shareholders made a ton of money in 2020 without sprinkling PPP funds on top. You talked earlier about the wealthy paying their fare share, the PPP was basically just giving the wealthy money. But this was legislation signed by Trump, not Biden. So to tie this into the original point of who is to blame for inflation, when we account for pandemic deficit spending, we need to account for the fact that the vast majority of it happened under Trump. And not only did most pandemic spending happen under Trump, it happened just after he'd passed one of the largest tax cuts in history for the wealthy, adding trillions to the federal debt.

I laughed at a Stormy Daniels post and so I shouldn't be allowed to reproduce or vote? What kind of Nazi bullshit is that? JFC. The only appropriate response I can think of is blocking you my dude, ain't no one got time for fascist bullshit.

> A MAGA supporter wrote, "Stormy Daniels is a parasite that would sell anything for a dollar," and Daniels responded, saying, "Not true. I wouldn't sell Bibles." 😅🤣

Wait, not just reviews but: > The Daily Mail has reported the attacker had profiles of his own on various escort websites, where he offered services for both men and women. The dude was a sex worker himself! (If the daily mail is to be believed...)

@jackslash already mentioned it, but I'd place Landing Strip as number 1 for talent overall. This is my own highly subjective assessment, so take it for what it's worth OP. I like spinners with cute faces and on all my visits to date, LS has had more of them than Flight. Not that Flight was bad in this regard, LS was just better. OP, I think there's also this to consider: IMHO, the quality of dances is a little subpar in Detroit. I've had some good dances, but I've also had some mechanical grinds and other boring lapdances in Detroit. I think you're unlikely to get a Vegas quality grind here, so set your expectations low. The main appeal of the DTW scene is the menu which is 😚👌 OP, you mention you have four evenings. If I were you, I would dedicate 1 evening each to BT's, Landing Strip, and Flight. Then on your final evening, Thursday (which is going to be the busiest/best of any of the nights), return to the club you liked best. (Or alternatively, do an OTC session, if you can pull that off!)

BRACE YOURSELF It's going to be Stormy for the next few weeks as this NYC criminal trial pops off.

@nicespice > I feel like a lot of customers below a certain age hate socializing This is an interesting observation. Recalling my time as a younger man in strip clubs there was definitely a lot more nervousness involved. Part of that for sure, was money. I had much less of it when I was younger and I was more preoccupied about spending it. Being inexperienced was also a factor. Talking to a beautiful stranger dressed only in her lingerie is something that takes practice.

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> Now if she wanted to go to Chippendales or something My wife does girls weekends with her friends somewhat regularly. The usually (not always) hire some kind of adult male entertainment, or go to a male strip club on these trips. And from the reports I've heard, shit gets pretty rowdy. And, I'm all for it. More power to her, I want her to enjoy life as much as she wants me to enjoy mine. Anyway, this is a great discussion OP. I think you're spot on to question the idea that it's the more moral choice to leave your family for a life of mongering versus patronizing clubs when you're married.

I enjoy talking to strippers. Not all of them, some are pretty vapid. But I've also met architects, artists, musicians, fashion students, entrepreneurs, and budding real estate moguls. I think there are some pretty interesting ladies that get into this line of work, and if they're good at stripping in general, they're good at the conversation aspect of the game. And for me, a fun and flirty conversation is essential to putting me in the mood for a dance. I will say this to the OP - if you do not enjoy conversation and want to get right down to business with dances, I think most strippers will say you're an ideal customer!

@puddy We agree on this: > Meanwhile, deficit spending is a known inflationary policy. But this sentence you wrote is blatant mischaracterization of what I wrote, and of the evidence I've provided: > You admit it yourself, above. IRA = deficit spending = inflation. The IRA, according the CBO link I provided, will result in a NET DECREASE in deficit spending of $90 BN. I'm trying to have this discussion in good faith, and to that end, I've provided evidence to back my claims and also asked repeatedly pressed you for evidence you can provide that Biden's policies were inflationary. And you haven't provided any evidence, just vibes, and the reductive insistence that because Biden was president when inflation peaked his policies were to blame. We might as well blame Trump for the pandemic, Bush for 9/11, and FDR for the attack on Pearl Harbor. Every sensible economist I've read points to multiple causes of inflation, which Biden had nothing to do with: the fact that the deficit was already high at the start of the pandemic due to the Trump's massive tax cuts. Trump's tariffs were inflationary. The massive pandemic recovery spending measures that were enacted under Trump were inflationary. Supply-chain issues due to the post-pandemic restart were a huge problem. (And yes, for sure, the war in Ukraine isn't helping inflation either, given that Ukraine was once one of the top agricultural exporters in the world, and food prices are a big part of the CPI.) The only people blaming Biden for high inflation are right wing media. If I want to consume right-wing disinformation, I don't need TUSCL for that, I could just go watch Fox News, OAN, or go on Facebook to see what my misinformed boomer relatives are posting about. Have the last word, I think if you are not going to provide any evidence to back your claims and you're going to mischaracterize the evidence I've presented, it's not worth my time to have the conversation.

> Y'all should stop fighting about politics on a strip club site, especially in the front room @blah, you’re right and cheers to vacant commercial properties becoming strip clubs

@sinclair, I honestly hadn't read that it was rising again, thanks for the point and the source. And RE: Gen X, you're right that was a typo and I meant Gen Z / Millennials. And I don't know what Gen Y is, is that after Gen Z? And thank you for the read on Gen Z and their economic prospects. Every generation THINKS they're going to be worse off than their parents. As a Gen Xer we were famous for our youthful cynicism, but things are mostly turning out well for my generation. I think there's no question, Gen Z has had a tougher go. Pandemic school, post-pandemic job market, and post-pandemic inflation are all challenges unlike what any previous generation faced, except maybe the Greatest Generation. The real question is in the long run Gen Z will be vindicated for their cynicism. I think they'll turn out to be better off than their parents, regardless their current vibes and the very real short-term impediments to their prosperity. The auto-catalytic nature of invention and the steady march of human progress are pretty powerful things and they always seem to win in the long run.

> We need to eliminate the deductions and loopholes that the wealthy and connected use to dodge taxes. Agreed on this point. > Inflation occurred under Biden and not Trump. Right, so we also agree on this. Just like I'm sure we would agree that pandemic happened under Trump. And I'm sure you'd agree that just because the pandemic happened on Trump's watch doesn't make it his fault. I think where we disagree is whose actions whose actions were more detrimental to inflation Trump, or Biden. > CBO scores are notoriously gamed, and inaccurate particularly as far as increased revenue collection OK, so if you don't like the evidence I've presented, present your own. You keep making the argument that Biden caused inflation, what evidence do you have for this claim?

> I have no interest in "high-end" clubs > Over the years, I have had fun times in Baltimore on "the Block", in Newport / Covington, KY, San Francisco, and Philadelphia. Yeah, then you should try Detroit, specifically west of the city near the airport. Read some reviews of Henry VIII and Bogart's. Further away from you, there's the Pompano Beach clubs, not in Miami but near Fort Lauderdale. There's some divier options in this area, just like in the DTW scene that might be what you're looking for, including the Porthole Pub.

Thanks for the review. > 3 for $100 and $250 for 30 minutes Did you also have to buy expensive drinks with these prices, like you would at Spearmint Rhino? And was there pressure to tip the VIP host(ess) and if so how much?

> If we want to make housing more affordable, actually build some over the objections of white progressive NIMBYs, right in their backyards. I agree with this, except for the attribution of NIMBYism to progressivism. There are plenty of right-wing NIMBYs too. In the liberal stronghold I live in, Republicans and right-wingers dominate the NIMBY scene in our local politics. NIMBYism is a scourge that taints both sides of the aisle. Regardless, there's no fucking question that the solution to housing prices is just to build more housing. It's simple and basic economics of supply and demand. > Talking about "inflation coming down" is deceptive. The damage has already been done and can't be reversed. "I put out part of the fire I set," well you're still an arsonist. I mean, you're right in the sense that inflation stabilizing doesn't mean prices go back to normal. Eggs, milk, gas, and lap dances still cost more in 2024 than they did in 2020. At the same time, I don't think we want prices to return to 2020 levels, because that would require deflation which is also dangerous economically. Regardless, it's still inaccurate to say inflation continues to climb. The fact is that it has stabilized to just above the 2% rate that the fed targets. > Biden himself says interest rate cuts were "delayed by a month" but who believes that economically illiterate dumbass on anything? Smarter people are talking about rate INCREASES now. I don't know what you're referring to when you say Biden delayed rate cuts, but the simple fact is: it wasn't his decision. The fed, by design, operates independently from the White House, and it's currently run by a Trump appointee, Jerome Powell. If you want to criticize someone for failing to act sooner, you should be criticizing Powell, not Biden. The biggest lever the president has to pull regarding inflation is spending. Debts and deficits are inflationary, full stop. Presidents who sign budgets into law that increase our debt contribute to future inflation, full stop. > Biden's hand over fist spending, particularly on green nonsense with no demonstrable ROI, is correlated. I think you're referring here to the "Inflation Reduction Act", one of Biden's two major legislative victories. (The other being the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.) The Inflation Reduction Act was passed in the house as the "Build Back Better Act" and also incorporated elements of the "Green New Deal", so I think this is what you mean when you say "green nonsense with no demonstrable ROI". I think reasonable people can disagree about the merits of the IRA, however, I don't know why any informed person would claim this bill is inflationary. The CBO score for this bill projects that it will result in a "net decrease in the deficit totaling $90 billion over the 2022-2031 period." https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58366 In contrast, Trump's signature legislative victory was the Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which added between $1-2 trillion to the federal deficit. https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-did-tcja-affect-federal-budget-outlook But... maybe I'm missing something or I'm misinformed. When you refer to Biden's "hand over fist spending", what, specifically, are you talking about?

For those of you insisting that Gen X / Millennials will be the first generations to be poor than their parents, I'm highly skeptical. I would love to see a scholarly citation or two that supports this claim. Beyond that there's a lot of other disinformation in this thread right now. Inflation does not "continue to climb", in fact, it's been steady this year after peaking in 2022. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi And @twentyfive is right that interest rates are not historically high, and in fact they were probably too low for too long, which may have contributed to recent inflation. We've basically had near-zero interest rates since the start of the great recession, I think that's economically unhealthy, especially in conjunction with the federal deficit exploding under Trump's watch during the pandemic in 2020, and probably was the biggest contributor to inflation. https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/deficit-tracker/ We need to get the government out of the business of handing out money to banks, even if it means people will pay more for a home.

Also @azdd, this sounds amazing: > Private chartered monger cruise in the Caribbean. But I'm guessing that it would break your budget, unless you had a few buddies who also had $20k to blow on such an excursion.

I would think the problem of cash and the $10k limit would be easily solved with ATMs, or maybe even a traveller's check, which I think is still a thing. I'm surprised at how many people are picking FKKs here. I have never been to one, I guess I need to check one out sometime. I'm also curious about mongering in Madrid and Barcelona which have both been mentioned here. Not a lot of reviews for clubs in these cities on TUSCL - for those who have been, can you elaborate on what the scene is like in Spain?

@tdr01, I just sent you a DM. I don't want to gossip too much about Alita in public because she's a young lady with a real profession to protect these days. Other mongers, feel free to DM me if you are also interested in details on my OTC session with Alita.

> SLC As in Salt Like City? OK, say more. I would expect the scene in this Mormon stronghold to be incredibly tame, what am I missing?

> Can I take any recording equipment to the room in Cascadas? Nope. Anytime you enter the hotel, including on checkin, they will pat you down, search your bags, and have you walk through the magnetometer. If they find camera equipment, they will confiscate it for the duration of your stay and return it when you check out. You'll have to either make due with your phone or go somewhere else. > Secondly do they need a credit card for reservations/checkin? You can make a reservation on their website without a credit card (no payment required at all), and you can definitely pay cash for the room. However, I'm 90% certain that even if you pay cash, they will still require an ID on checkin. So if you're trying to use cash to stay anonymous that probably won't work, but if you're just trying to avoid a paper trail on your bank statement, that's totally possible.

I've never been to Pattaya, but I would consider going with this sum, I'd just be worried about spending it all there in time, might be tough, as cheap as I hear Pattaya is. So the other place I would consider is Tijuana. I'd book a double suite and have a few "normal" days there, then for the final weekend of the week, I'd rent the suites pool at Rizo de Oro ($1600/night), and I'd have a huge bacchanalian party in the suite with lots of chicas. I'd imagine you could rack up a tab of $10k a day on that suite, plus arriba fees if you wanted it packed full of chicas, so $20k would probably only be enough for one night or two of this dream.

Thanks for the advice everyone. Sounds like I'm probably overthinking this concern about hotel management and I should just pick a hotel based on comfort and location if planning for OTC.

So, an important but tangential question for those who have experienced both clubs: how does the experience and talent at SR compare to PH? I have a trip to Vegas coming up, was planning on hitting up the Rhino. Unironically this piece of news got me wondering if we should try out Peppermint Hippo instead, which is probably exactly the kind of publicity PH wants out of this lawsuit, and exactly why it was a stupid decision for SR to bring it.

Well said @Muddy. If your job were to be a buyer for a major corporation, you would expect that hearing "no" would be part of the game. If every supplier/vendor said yes to every deal you offered, that would be an indication that you're paying too much. You're in the ballpark for the right prices on things if you sometimes hear yes and sometimes no.

That club Tango looks excellent @shadowcat. Too bad it's never been reviewed here! I find that in general (with Tijuana being the big exception), the Caribbean and Central America are really underrepresented here on TUSCL and it would be awesome to see more info about these spots. We need an @PutaTester but for the DR, PR and CR

Good to read a review of this popular club from a non-regular.

First time I've watched a women's game end-to-end. I'm pretty impressed, it was entertaining. It looked like Clark was going to run away with it in the first quarter but SC managed to shut her down.

This guy definitely isn't the first Incel terrorist. There was one guy who shot up a bunch of AMPs in Atlanta 2021: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Atlanta_spa_shootings. There are others that come to mind.

I won't be there then, but just wanted to say, I'm terrible jealous. A monger's first trip to TJ is a sacred rite of passage. Be prepared to have US clubs permanently ruined for you, lol. Please do submit some reports so the rest of us can live vicariously. You might want to check the other threads in the TJ Monger's forum. I think I saw that @TJVistor23 posted a thread about being there during your dates.

High volume music at the club is a mixed bag for me. It does add energy to the club and make the stage performances better. It also makes conversation a challenge. Personally, I like learning about new music. My last trip to TJ, I made a point about asking about the reggaeton artists they were playing in the Miami Room of HK. Over the weekend, I built up a playlist of hits by popular reggaeton artists, which I would then use during arribas, and the chicas fucking loved it. New music is also a good topic for discussion in the club with dancers. Who is this artist? Do you like them? What are they about? I think the best situation is when the DJ plays a mix of older pop and rock (that patrons like me know and love) and also newer stuff that the dancers like. Landing Strip in Detroit does a good job with this, so does the main room at Hong Kong. And I agree with @captainfun, probably one of my fav DJs at any strip club is the guy at Chicago Club, they just keep blasting the classic rock there!

Hey @jackslash, it was an awesome hang. Bummer you didn't find a lady to take downstairs, but I get it after coming back from your victorious march on Pattaya. It was good meeting you!

@johntrickin, the OP of this post has no reviews and this is their only discussion. So I think people are rightfully skeptical of the post, it's not a stretch to think that Uncle Leo might post a thread like this to fish for places to investigate.

This is really funny, but it’s been about 20 years since I’ve been to Anchorage too. 2005 or so I think. And I remember the mileage being low, lol. Hopefully some PLs with more recent experience can chime in

> If it were me I’d touch bases with the raven-haired beauty and try to arrange a meet-up in the late afternoon. This is a brilliant idea actually...

Yeah @HedonistBG, you're right that I missed the boat by a few years on ASS-C and the hey day of strip clubs in the 80s and 90s. I wonder, if I am still mongering in my golden years, what I'll tell people about the scene back in the 20s, lol. Either way, you're right that dancer talent and mileage have an inverse relationship. I find that in the Detroit, this inverse relationship is not as steep as other places in the country.

@wildRover, thanks for the tips. Two follow up questions: > The bouncers at FC keep track of how long you’ve been in the room and I’ve always found them to be very fair and honest. I considered getting management involved, but I hate club drama and Chloe and I settled the dispute on our own. I mean, I did owe her something since we did do a bunch of dances. I'm curious though if I had gotten management or the bouncer involved, would there have been a standard price per song? Like could she have still charged me $40 / song? > I’d also add that Saturday afternoon is probably the worst day talent-wise at FC or any of the Detroit area clubs. Yeah, a dancer mentioned to me that Saturday was usually slow. It's weird, you'd think Saturday would be the most popular day there, at most clubs it normally is. I've been to Flight before on a weekday before and there were definitely more dancers and patrons than this past Saturday. I might make a similar biz trip again in the future... is there really no DTW area club that's good for Saturday dayshift? Doing a Friday meeting and then leaving late on Saturday is much easier for me to swing than taking a weekday off to hit the clubs.

@aham5144, to be clear, the loudness doesn't completely bug me. It makes the club energetic, which I enjoy. And I like that at LS they mix some rock into the playlist too, and you definitely can't be blasting GnR or Motely Crue at half volume. But I also struggle at this place to have conversations, and I think it's louder here than most other clubs I've been too. I have very mild hearing loss from my days as a college DJ. It normally doesn't bug me at all, but I did find myself having mild troubles making conversation at LS with my fellow TUSCLers and also the dancers. Mercifully, it's not as loud in the rooms as it is on the main floor.

LOL at @iknowbetter. There needs to be a term for this reverse door vulture you speak of: the egregiously hot dancer you only first see on your way out the door. I'm always skeptical of the first lady that approaches. I agree with others that it might be an indicator of ROBish behavior, but also agree with @Dolfan that it doesn't make sense to systematically reject the first dancer to stop by because that's not always true. I usually say something like "I'm just settling in and getting a drink, maybe stop by later?" A ROBy dancer will keep pressuring you for dances, which is a reason to reject them outright. I find most dancers though will do exactly as I've asked and come back later.

Damn, I'm truly jealous of how frequently you're able to visit. My next stop through TJ/SAN probably won't be until late in the summer, I'll let you know when that is, as it would be awesome to grab a drink again. Hopefully you find some other mongers to hang out in April!

I've only had issues with fraud a few times, but always a few dollars extra on the tip, never anything significant. And it's never happened at a SC for me. FWIW, I think SCs are constantly worried about fraud and getting their payment providers yanked, that's why they do things like photocopy your ID. (One SC I was at in FL once had a credit card processor that took your picture when you used it.) In any case, because they don't want to get nixed by Visa, the risk of CC fraud at any given club is low in my opinion. And if it does happen, it's likely going to be a few dollars extra on the tip added by the wait staff, not an enormous fraud. Here's a fun tip though to prevent fraud from happening. Make your tip add up so that the tens of the total match the cents. For example, say I'm paying a drink bill of $65.50. I'd tip exactly $16.31 on this bill so that the total comes out to $81.81. If the bill was $162.40, I'd tip exactly $32.54, for a total of $194.94. If you get in this habit, you can quickly and easily scan your CC statement to look for outliers where your cents don't match your tens: ✅$81.81 ✅$194.94 ✅$65.65 ❌$95.05 Since I've been in the habit of tipping like this, I have spotted plenty of cases where a waiter or waitress keyed in the wrong amount, either intentionally or unintentionally. Usually it's not worth battling over a few bucks, but on at least one occasion, I've successfully initiated a dispute over the waiter padding the tip, just to make a point.

Great reviews @londonguy and great to meet you and @jackslash. I need to get around to writing reviews of my visit to LS, and also FC the following day, and when I do, I'm gonna offer the same conclusion you did: LS is definitely the best club in the DTW area. In my opinion, it's cheaper and with arguably equal or better talent compared to FC, and you're less likely to get obscene quotes on room prices. Anyway, glad you got to check out our clubs across the pond, and I'm glad you final night worked out so well. Thanks for the reviews.

@squaredcastle, I feel for your loss of your two favorite dopamine dealers. One thing about this biz is that strippers are always coming and going for various reasons. I think it's just an unlikely coincidence that you have two favs who left for the same reason. I'm skeptical that this is a broader trend. The reason I think this is because SBs generally don't make the same kind of money that strippers do. I'm not a part of the sugar scene though I am curious about it. One thing that surprises me is how low PPM or allowances are for SBs. Take a look at this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/17a2wja/20232024_allowance_master_thread/ A lot of SBs are taking $500 for PPMs or have allowances in the $1k-2k range. And what's more, the income is inconsistent as not all SRs last. Even if your two favs found "whales" that are providing much higher allowances or PPMs, the whale can always grow tired of the relationship, and finding a new whale is difficult. So, maybe your favs will be back? Either way, I don't think this is a big trend to fear, you just personally got unlucky here and took a bad beat. Take comfort in the fact that hunting for new favs is part of the fun of the hobby!

I hope you have a better experience at LS. Personally, I prefer it to FC. It is kind of crazy how little effort FC dancers put into the stage dances. They'll make a little better effort at LS. Plus at LS, every hour there's a stage review where all the ladies take laps of the stage topless, this is great for figuring out who you want to tip and ask for privates.

It was gone for a while but it's back now. If I look at your post, on the same line as your username but justified to the right, I see three controls I can use: there's a MUTE button, a BOOKMARK button, and a MESSAGE button. Obviously, it's the MUTE button you want to click on to block a user.

I thought North Korea ceded territory in that war though? I could be mistaken. Also, I think that technically, that war has not ended, right? So, one can still hold out hope that the DPRK collapses, Korea is unified, and capitalism prevails over communism.

Hey PT, btw, what does "BBBJCIMWS" mean? I got the "BBBJCIM" part but what's WS stand for? Sorry if this question is ignorant.

Ben Franklin though is the patron founding father of strippers. Anyway, interesting factoid about the War of 1812, thanks OP. I do know that the War of 1812 was one of the few we've fought where the outcome was the status quo antebellum. I think it used to be the only such war, but Afghanistan may now also be in that boat, sadly.

Good review. (Though, some info on prices would be useful on the 30 min room.) > I really need to learn more Spanish so I can communicate more easily with the dancers here. I wrote an article, "A Monger's Guide to Spanish in Tijuana" which might be useful for communicating with the Cubanas at a spot like Cheetah's. I'm thinking of publishing a version 2 of this article with a broader focus than just TJ. Let me know if there are any phrases or topics that you think would be worth covering in that version 2.

I don't think it's that complicated. In the US prostitution is illegal in most places. It's legal in places like Mexico and Germany. A legal market means more fluid competition and downward pressure on prices.

I had this idea on my way home from my last TJ trip that next time, I would try to institute an "only 8s or lower" policy. The idea being to get better service by avoiding the most popular girls. This review makes me think it would be a really good idea.

CJ, I'm not sure if you're correct that smoking in a hotel room is not permitted. At my recent stay at Cascadas, I stayed in the penthouse executive suite, just as OP is doing. That room had an ashtray in it, so I'm pretty sure I could've smoked in the room?

There's a smoking area at HK but from my recollection only seeing it briefly, it's not the kind of place you would actually enjoy a cigar. Chicago club, I've read, just added a pretty nice smoking patio, but I haven't seen it personally. What I'd recommend is that you go across the street to the 2nd floor outdoor patio at Hotel Rizo de Oro. It's got a great view of HKGC and the chaos of Calle Coahuila and it's a great spot to enjoy a drink, or I would think, certainly a cigar. Also, I just stayed in the PES. It was a good choice. It was well appointed and it's main virtue was being tucked away in the back corner of the 7th floor where there was less noise.

@nicespice hit the nail on the head here: > Alas, a lot of anti-“human trafficking” is just the rebranded way of hating regular ol’ prostitution. Not to say that trafficking isn’t a thing, but I side eye that term by default. Pull back the covers on any group funding "anti human trafficking" legislation and you'll find some right wing religious group, for certain. These are the same people getting pornhub shut down in certain states. There's a fascinating documentary "Money Shot: The Pornhub Story" on Netflix right now, and one of the things it gets into is that all the groups trying to ban content ostensibly to prevent trafficking and exploitation of minors are just fundamentalist religious groups who are anti-sex work in general. With that said, I'm not 100% opposed to women needing to be 21 to work as dancers. But I don't think this is going to do jack shit to prevent any kind of trafficking. And I guarantee you, if we were to look at who lobbied for this bill, it's going to be some shitty group like Focus on Family or something similar, some organization that opposes all sex work in general.

I've never taken it, but there's a train that runs from LA to San Diego. Takes about 3 hours and the cost is around $70 one way. More info here: https://www.amtrak.com/pacific-surfliner-train > And is it worth going there just for 1 day? Yes, for sure. It will be one of the best days of your life, lol. > If so - I assume Hong Kong is the place to go, is that correct?? HK is more expensive than other clubs, but there's a much better selection of chicas there than other spots. I've heard this likened to buying a CostCo brand like Kirkwood. Chicago club is the Kirkwood. It's cheaper, and if you don't care if you wind up with a chica who is a 7 instead of an 8, 9, or 10, you'll save money there. If you do care about trying to find an wildly attractive 9, or maybe even the perfect dime, HK provides the better value.

@choc, it's an immigration form you're supposed to fill out before crossing the border into MEX. Though as my and other recent experiences show, they don't check them that often. https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html

Yep @Manuallabore, you're right, the grammar on the AI generated reviews is TOO perfect. Most reviews carry at least some kind of awkward language or grammatical errors. That said, I don't think reviewers should be rejecting for perfect grammar. My point here is exactly as you state: "Uninformative" is the problem with AI generated reviews. These AI generated reviews say a lot while providing little information of value. Reviewers should reject all reviews that don't provide useful information, I think it's irrelevant whether one thinks it's AI or not.

I agree with folks that this is a trivial price increase, even if you are drinking a lot of beers yourself. Even if you have 10 beers in a night, this change will cost you $10, not the end of the world. The problem is, it comes in conjunction with numerous other price increases which do real damage. My biggest gripes are the damn $33 wine ficha, and probably most important, the inconsistent and skyrocketing bar fines. I'm a fan of the 2 hour arriba, but the bar fine on that, $110 if you're lucky but they might try to charge as much as $220, makes the 2 hour arriba almost prohibitively expensive. Because you've got to pay the chica too, that 2nd hour ends up being exceedingly expensive, much more than the first hour, which gives me great pause on doing arribas over an hour. Note that only 18 months ago, the barfine for a 2 hour arriba was only $50.

Yeah, to @Dolfan's point, I'd never ask a stripper for change, because 9 times out of 10 she's going to just keep the whole bill, lol.

@mogul1985, being a well-written, rave review might indicate it's AI generated. Note though that I could prompt ChatGPT to give me a negative review too though. I've pasted below what that looks like. It still lacks specifics, and again, that's what I think we should be focusing on in the unpublished queue. -------- Palomino strip club in Las Vegas left me thoroughly disappointed and unimpressed. First off, the place itself was lackluster. While it wasn't outright dirty, there was a noticeable lack of cleanliness, with sticky floors and dim lighting that did little to mask the grime. The music blared at an obnoxious level, making it difficult to hold a conversation, let alone enjoy the ambiance. The DJ seemed more interested in shouting over the speakers than actually curating a pleasant atmosphere, adding to the overall unpleasantness of the experience. As for the people, the dancers were a mixed bag at best. While there were a decent number of them, their enthusiasm seemed forced, and many appeared disinterested in engaging with patrons. The variety in ethnicity was lacking, with a predominantly homogeneous lineup that failed to cater to diverse tastes. It was evident that the dancers were more focused on upselling expensive services rather than providing genuine entertainment, which left a sour taste in my mouth. When it comes to the price, Palomino strip club proved to be a wallet-draining experience. From exorbitant cover charges to overpriced drinks and lap dances, every aspect of the club seemed designed to extract as much money as possible from unsuspecting customers. The sheer cost of enjoying oneself here far outweighed any potential enjoyment, making it a poor value for money proposition. In summary, Palomino strip club is a place I wouldn't recommend to anyone seeking a fun or memorable night out. The lackluster ambiance, disinterested dancers, and exorbitant prices make it a regrettable choice for entertainment in Las Vegas. Save your hard-earned cash and seek out a more reputable establishment where you can truly enjoy yourself without feeling like you've been taken advantage of.

For those who have been to both, how does the scene in Toronto compare to the scene in TJ? I'm a newly frequent visitor to TJ, and definitely prefer a trip there to the escort scene, for all the reasons you mention, OP. I'm curious though how TJ stacks up against Toronto, or maybe Montreal?

I was at Tootsie's Miami this fall. I was swarmed by a cuarteto of hot cubanas who were giving me tons of attention, which I was enjoying. There are no "floor dances" at Tootsies, so I endeavored to keep the fun going by handing each dancer a $20 every couple of songs. In the midst of all this, a manager came by an introduced himself and told me to "feel free to make it rain." This, to me, was the silliest suggestion I've ever heard from a club's management. The $20 tips I was tucking into these ladies lingerie was a far more efficient way of tipping versus changing a bigger bill for singles and scattering them all over the floor. And yes, OP your, @Cruz and @Manuel's points, it seemed like it would be demeaning to these young cubanas to have them pick up a big mess of dollar bills off the floor. In what other service professions would you tip like this?

Just for grins, I gave ChatGPT a prompt based on the review guidelines here at TUSCL, and then asked it to review Palomino Las Vegas. The full review is below - could you tell it was AI generated? The one thing I'd note that ChatGPT does not do is get to specifics on prices, so I would think a lack of specifics would be the number 1 way to spot an AI review. Now, if one were to use ChatGPT to generate the review, and then update the generated text with more specifics, it might be indiscernible from a real review. But the question I'd ask in that case is, if the review was both detailed and accurate, would you care if it were AI generated? What if the OP actually visited the club, but just sucks at writing and wants to use a skeleton from ChatGPT to get started? In other words, if you can't tell if AI was used, does it matter? Personally, I think the "AI generated" reason for rejection is pointless - we should be rejecting reviews that don't have accurate details and approving ones that do, no need in my opinion to worry about if it was AI generated or not, just my 2 cents. ------- Palomino strip club in Las Vegas, NV, offers a unique experience among the city's myriad of adult entertainment venues. The PLACE exudes an aura of sophistication with its clean and well-maintained interior. Unlike some other clubs in Vegas, Palomino manages to strike a balance between elegance and excitement without veering into seediness. The lighting is dim enough to create an intimate atmosphere without obscuring the view, and the music level is just right—not too loud to drown out conversation, but lively enough to enhance the ambiance. Thankfully, there's minimal DJ annoyance factor; the music selection is diverse and caters to various tastes without becoming repetitive or obnoxious. PEOPLE at Palomino are undoubtedly one of its biggest draws. The dancers are stunning and diverse in ethnicity, ensuring there's something for everyone's preference. On any given night, you'll encounter a mix of performers, from sultry brunettes to fiery redheads and everything in between. The club typically boasts a decent number of dancers, ensuring there's always someone new to captivate your attention. Moreover, the dancers exude genuine enthusiasm and seem genuinely pleased to entertain patrons, enhancing the overall experience. As for PRICE, Palomino is reasonably priced considering its prime location and the quality of entertainment offered. Without divulging specific costs, patrons can expect to pay standard rates for drinks, dances, and cover charges. While not the cheapest option in town, the value for money is undeniable, especially considering the caliber of performers and the upscale ambiance. In summary, Palomino is a top-tier destination for those seeking an unforgettable night out in Las Vegas. Its combination of upscale ambiance, diverse and enthusiastic performers, and reasonable pricing make it a standout choice among strip clubs in the area. Whether you're a seasoned club-goer or a first-time visitor, Palomino offers an experience that's sure to leave a lasting impression. I would undoubtedly return to Palomino for another night of excitement and entertainment, as it consistently delivers on all fronts.

@TJVisitor23... what was customs like on your landing in TJ? I'm curious about smuggling a vape pen through and wondering if that would be easier via flight than the land crossing with the new security controls at the land port of entry. And yeah, I played with some flight options for me, the timing of that flight landing at 11:45AM is less than ideal. I know @PT mentioned you can leave your bags at Cascadas reception, but I would still worry about the cash (I guess I could keep it on me?) but also what to do if I found a girl I was ready to arriba with but before my room was ready (I guess one could always just wait!)

@heckler, I stayed in the Penthouse Executive Suite last trip to Cascadas. It's actually slightly smaller than the double master suite (which is slightly less expensive.) However, the PES is located in a corner of the hotel away from the elevators, so noise is less likely to be an issue for you there. It also had a decent view of Tijuana from the window. I would definitely stay in that suite again, so I think you made a good choice.

Are you the same person behind @BubbleYum (also a blonde from detroit?) Or different dancer entirely?

@londonguy to get back to your question of how long you will have, it depends on the dancer. Usually it's until you bust a nut if you've pre-negotiated a service. Some dancers will ask for more money if you take longer, but I don't know what that threshold is (and it would depend on the dancer too), 20-30 mins sounds about right. I don't think this comes up that often because both dancer and PL alike have an incentive for you to pop quickly. Also worth noting, you can negotiate up front for more time. Last time I was at LS, I negotiated with one dancer to spend the remainder of the night with a dancer. If I remember correctly, we had maybe 75 mins until the club closed, and I paid $500 for her time plus services rendered for that hour and change. A few dudes flamed me in that review for spending that much, but I think I got a deal given she was giving amazing lap dances, and the cost was definitely cheaper than if I had paid $40 per song.

> incredibly cute, toned, spinner, girl next door types Yeah, this is my jam too. And to second CJ's recommendation, I'm just back from a trip to HKGC where I found a metric ton of toned spinner types, both of the girl next door variety, and the perfect dime model types. But if it's just dances with hot spinners you're after, try one of the higher end Vegas clubs like Spearmint Rhino, or maybe try E11even in Miami.

@londonguy, as @3131 mentioned, the club charges a skip fee to a dancer who misses her rotation on stage. At LS and FC, I believe these are in the neighborhood of $40-50. I think at both clubs, it's technically supposed to be a fee paid by the dancer, but inevitably the dancer will ask you to cover it. As 3131 mentions, one way to avoid is to talk to a dancer for privates right after she finishes a set. Another strategy is to tell a dancer you're talking to something like, "Let's wait until after your next set to go downstairs/upstairs." Some dancers may not want to wait, time is money for these ladies. Alternatively, just budget for a skip fee so at least you don't feel ambushed by the request. Rooms are really cheap in Detroit (even at FC, it's like $40 for no specified amount of time) but the skip fee is one way the club makes up for the cheap room costs. One other thought for you: I've found that as a frequent traveler to extras clubs all over the US, including Detroit, I'm often quoted prices a little higher than what locals reporting experience. You'll be marked as a tourist by your London lilt, whether it's east end or west end, lol. Claiming to be a frequent visitor is the antidote to this problem. "I've been to the club a bunch, I come here often on biz travel."

One thing TJ has done to me is made me absolutely fetishize latinas. Before my first visit to TJ I would've said I liked hot latinas, but now I'd say I'm properly obsessed. And yeah, since visiting, it's hard for me to see a hot latina civilian and NOT compare her to a prior conquest in TJ.

If I were your attorney @londonguy, I would advise you to skip the STL clubs entirely to save money for more events in Detroit. You've got a great choice in clubs in the few towns to the west of Detroit, going from low-end to high-end: Bogart's, Henry VIII, Silver Cricket, Subi's, BT's Executive Club, Landing Strip and Flight Club. And at the higher end, BT's LS and FC, there are some absolutely gorgeous women. LS is my personal favorite and recommendation - plenty of women working just as hot as flight club but slightly lower costs. Just about everything can be negotiated at these joints, just make sure you read reviews so you have a good idea what a fair asking price is. Also, be prepared for those "skip fees". The skip fee is a weird thing about the Detroit scene that will be less annoying if you anticipate it. Mandatory valet at many places too. If you Uber/lyft you don't have to pay valet, however, be aware that it can sometimes take awhile to get a ride share home, so plan to order ahead of time. Are you going to drop any reports on the scene in Warsaw? I'm curious about this!

I would love to be able to sort My Feed by last comment, like I can with the discussions or articles page. You’ve been working hard lately @Founder, enjoy your well earned vacation!

PT, thanks. Without you there’d be no reviews of any of these lesser know spots in Mex. You’re doing all of TUSCL a huge service 🫡 Mexicali sounds interesting, but also it seems from your reviews that TJ is still a better spot both on price and selection?

Before I jump on the suggestions bandwagon, I want to say that I do really like the new alerts. It's much better, and more engaging, to get these alerts while I'm on the site versus the old email system. With that said, these improvements (two already mentioned) would be huge: * Ability to clear all alerts * Ability to configure what I get alerts for, like we had with email alerts * Ability to get alerts on a thread I follow. (Like, if I ask a question on a review and follow that thread, I would love to know if someone responds without stalking my feed or that thread.) * Ability to alert someone else by doing @Username

I'll second what @powerman02 and @TJVisitor23 said, I think early in the morning HK will be the only game in town, other than hiring an escort. > But recent reports suggest that the experience is too “high pressure” at HK. I didn't feel this pressure at HK. All the chicas I was with were happy to sit and drink fichas with me, I was always the one suggesting VIP or arriba. The only pressure I did feel was with chicas who ordered wine, as the price on that adds up quickly, so I felt pressure with those chicas to move on quickly. It's becoming harder and harder to avoid those wine fichas, IMHO, even though one should endeavor to do so, for the sake of ones own pocketbook and to stop encouraging this madness on price hikes from management.

I'm chiming in to second the suggestions of Detroit and Pompano Beach. Pompano is my preference, I'd say Pompano if you love latinas, Detroit if you don't. I think those are the best cities in the country. But if you're going to get on a plane to travel anyway, why not leave the country to go to Montreal or TJ then? For the price of a HH session in a Pompano Beach club, you could have 4 30 min sessions in TJ and still have cheddar leftover for beer and fichas.

@Dolfan is right... I probably overpaid, because in spite of reading reviews, I couldn't remember pricing enough to make offers. And if you ask for quotes, you'll get quoted in the ranges I mentioned. But OP if you make an offer first along the lines of what @Dolfan and 25 are suggesting you'll do better.

For kicks, I asked a few chat bots for best guitar solos, and the lists I'm getting back largely mirror what you all are saying, lol. Comfortably Numb is ranked towards the top according to the bots. The only song the bots mentioned that you all haven't yet is Dire Straits "Sultans of Swing." My fav among all of these suggestions is Pearl Jam's "Alive." Hat tip to @MajorBoobage for mentioning that one. As soon as I read it I could hear every single note of that solo, right up to and past where Eddie comes in with "Yeah, uh huuhhh..." That solo might not be the most technical or as brilliantly innovative as some of the others on this list, but if that solo isn't part of your metabolism, you probably were just born in a different era than I was.

> “Erect penile length is getting longer, from an average of 4.8 inches (12.1cm) to 6 inches (15.2cm), over the past 29 years,” Dr. Eisenberg said. This to me is the most shocking news in the article. That's a 25% increase in 30 years. What's driving that? Assume that trend continues. My back of the napkin math suggests if it does, the average dude will be walking around with a 1 footer holstered just 3 generations from now.

Thanks for the review, OP. A European FKK like sharks is high on my bucket list right now. Question: if you want to hang out for an extended period of time with the ladies here, what options do you have? I'm thinking like, if you wanted to get some drinks together, some conversation, maybe even some lap dances to warm up... is that kind of thing possible here? Or is this place all about getting right to business?

I did a visit to Pompano late last fall, and posted reviews of BT and Cheetah which you can read via my profile if you're so inclined. BT dayshift was my favorite, I would highly recommend. Lots of hot cubana spinners, not a lot of PLs. I also had fun at Cheetah Pomp nightshift, but BT day was my favorite. As far as negotiating for extras, read the reviews here to see prices other PLs are paying. You might expect a minimum of $250 + 50 to the house for a 15 min session at BT during the day, or $300 + 75 at Cheetah for night. Double those amounts if you want 30 minutes. I think if you get a quote in those ranges, it's not worth it to haggle on price. But may be worth it to negotiate on value, for example, I made a point at Cheetah pomp of asking for muchos besos and she delivered on that, easily a better negotiating move than trying to haggle to pay $25-50 less, if that makes sense. The bottom line is, Pompano is an awesome scene and you're going to have a blast, provided that you're into Cubanas. Bring lots of cash and don't overthink it, you'll have fun wherever you go here.

Great review PAFBABS, thanks for taking the time to report. > just being polite with the girls/management as well as the locals can do miracles for you in both having outstanding FUN and in the event you need help in any way. Be confident and yet polite, girls love that This is the truth! A little bit of respect goes such a long way in TJ, perhaps because so many americanos are NOT respectful, you really stand out if you are respectful. If found a few phrases like "Eso está bien?" really go a long way here.

Thanks for the feedback OP, PT & EC. It's good to know the effort I put into writing these was worth it! And @OG, thanks for the constructive feedback. My intent was to use some Spanish in places where it would be contextually obvious what was being said in Spanish. But on a re-read, maybe I overdid it by a bit. The next time I review I'll try to tone it done a little bit. It's tough because ¡El idioma español es parte del sabor de Tijuana! (Spanish language is part of the flavor of Tijuana!)

Not just raw dogging the ass, but BBFS finish. OP is a man who likes to take risks, I guess, lol. I do too, but the risk of a mini RonJax running around Tijuana with a chica mama who wants child support is just bridge too far for me. But OP, glad you had a good time!

No, I definitely do not want to be in the background on anything shared on social media at a SC. But @Ishmael, how is watching a random dude getting a blowjob live different from watching porn? That part I don't think would bother me.

HK has a smoking area. And I believe I read that Chicago just put one in. My room at cascadas this weekend had an ashtray in it, I'm pretty sure you can smoke in the rooms there.

Smash! And lol @PuddyTat69 "bony white girl ass." This chica is even a little on the heavy side for me. We need to do some proper mongering because divying up the chicas would be so easy. You can have all the voluptuous ones, and I'll take the spinners.

I'm still planning on a version 2 of this guide, probably within a few weeks since it will take some time. One phrase I wanted to throw in here that I love, and picked up on my most recent trip to TJ is: ¡De eso se trata! / That's what it's all about! The literal translation for this phrase is really awkward. ("Of that tries itself!") In practice, this is a great alternative to Me gusta / Me encanta, and something you might tell a chica when she's doing something well, like giving you great head or an amazing lap dance.

@FutureK. The staff will (usually) send someone up for a bar fine if you're in the room with a chica for longer than an hour. If you keep your arribas to 1 hour or less, you shouldn't have to deal with bar fines. The barfine is supposed to be $110 per chica for an additional hour. For that $110, they'll also bring up a bucket of drinks. In my experience in the past, I would sometimes pre-pay the bar fine for a 2 hour arriba so that we didn't get a knock on the door. I no longer recommend this because the mereros kept trying to overcharge me for a pre-paid bar fine.

@ElectronMan, thank you too for the kind words. The link to my article on Tijuana Spanish is here, just in case it's not working for anyone else: https://tuscl.net/article/59431. It seems to be right in the post above, but I've noticed there's always funkiness with how a review is displayed when it's in the under review queue.

> Instead, I would have suggested a soda or fruit drink. @PT This is a great suggestion! The chica who ordered wine in this review, I had asked her "Por que no cerveza?" and as I explained that didn't go over very well. Suggesting a soda instead seems to be a really smart move here! Warning: I'm about to post Part 3 of this review, in which I bought even more wine fichas, but next time I'm there I'll lean on the soda thing and see if that sticks better.

And @PT and @PAFBABS, thanks for the kind comments. PT, re: barfines, I would love to hear you opine more on this. I found the most aggravating part about the barfines to be the inconsistency of how they were applied, and what they cost. This made it impossible to budget for any given day or arriba. I obviously have no problem tipping the chicas well, but I absolutely hate feeding the dragon, so I would love to hear your thoughts on how to avoid. One thing I'm wondering is if staying at Rizo de Oro might cut down on the likelihood of a knock on the door for a longer arriba.

To @ElectronMan > Any recommendations for a daily budget for an overnight trip with 1 or 2 Arribas, food and light drinks? I'll give you two answers here. Both would not include the hotel cost which is highly variable based on room choice and day of the week: * Bare Bones Budget: $400 per day would be enough for 2 HH arribas, some fichas, beers and food. * Long-Time Lover's Splurge: $1200 per day is more inline with what I was spending. That kind of cash will give you the flexibility to do lots of fichas, some warm up VIP dances with the ladies, as well as some longer arribas in the 1-2 hour range. You could keep yourself entertained for most of a day and evening with that kind of cash on hand. And you could probably land anywhere in the middle here. Go with what you can afford, and plan on spending it all would be my rec. > Any suggestions for safe traveling with cash? Yeah, this is a hassle. Getting cash there is expensive, the ATM at Hong Kong can dispense $1k a day, but charges something like a fee of $150 or so, ouch. 15% tax on your funds in no good. I pack mine deep in the bowels of my shaving kit, which goes in my backpack, which I don't take off much when I'm traveling. I've also heard of guys here buying undewear with a hidden pocket to store cash, or you might look into one of the belts with a zipper. I think what's most important is, when you have a bag of cash on you: DO NOT be walking around the Zona. Take a cab or the shuttle directly from the border to the hotel, and avoid the municipal police at all costs!

Great review OP!

@londonguy, please do report back on how the Warsaw scene rates, especially compared to the scene in East St. Louis 😂

@chugwa I think you're right about two things, Rizo de Oro is probably less noisy and definitely a little less expensive than Cascadas. And chicas from HK are definitely allowed to come there. The only downside I see is that if you take a chica from HK you have to play frogger crossing Calle Coahuila on the way back to your motel. With that said, I'm just back from my third trip to Cascadas, and I think next time I will almost definitely be staying at Rizo de Oro.

Lol @PoundKing, wait until you see the gigantic review I'm about to post of HK. I get carried away writing these things I think.

Thanks @Founder, appreciate the quick response!

Also wanted to note, GE definitely came in handy. I crossed back yesterday via PedEast. Even though the line was not as long as PedWest, the normal line still wrapped up the staircase and was probably an hour long if not longer. With my GE card in hand, I walked right past the whole line and up to the gate where they asked if I had Sentri. I showed my GE card and they let me right through. Once I was inside the CBP facility they let me skip right in front of everyone else too. The only question they had was where I was headed, to which I responded "home". It probably only took me 10 total minutes to cross the border, and 80% of that was just walking across the long bridge to get to customs. Everyone else was stuck in a long line. I would highly recommend GE for anyone visiting TJ. It's worth it even if you're only going to visit once or twice, in my opinion.

> Most of the process was fast and easy except for getting the interview time. Just wanted to note my experience here. The closest office to me was booked for months out after I got my provisional approval. But, I re-checked the site every day for a about 3 days, and lo and behold, an appointment opened up that week. So it probably only took me like 4-6 weeks total to get the GE card, including the provisional clearance and the interview. TLDR: don't wait 6 months for GE, stalk CIS's website for appointments and one will likely open up sooner.

$1k per visit seems like a bargain to me, compared to the cost of being married with children, lol

I have clients. I talk shit about them to my co-workers. I also genuinely like many of them, even the ones I talk shit about. It's possible to both like and also be annoyed or aggravated by someone, especially when it comes a client for business, and obviously stripping is a business too. People can, and often do, have conflicted feelings. Think of the general stripper web as a women's locker room, and it makes more sense. You're just hearing the worst of it there. A dancer bitching about an ugly, cheap, degenerate PL might have also made a genuine connection with that PL, but she's not going to talk about that in the locker room. And @PuddyTat69 has a good point here. We shouldn't throw stones from this glass house we're in, there's lots of disrespectful behavior here too. The best thing for everyone, PLs and dancers alike, is to try to be respectful towards each other, we'll all have more fun that way.

I'll be there for part of the time you're there. I'll DM you. To your question on laundry, I have no idea, but I am very curious about this myself. Post back here if you find an answer. I'm thinking there's got to be something...

I don’t see any vivide reviews in the queue

2AMers happen all the time in the US. And there was that recently averted potential mass shooting at a club I read about here on TUSCL. Going to a SC just entails some risk in general, and I think it's difficult to price the risk of potential cartel violence versus the risk of the general epidemic of gun violence in the US. With that said, when I go to TJ, I try to avoid a lot walking around on my own. And not because I'm worried about Cartel violence, but the police. I don't want to be another cautionary tale like @Jascoi. The way to stay safe in TJ is to park yourself at a Hotel with a club such as Jalos, Cascadas or Rio de Oro and patronize the corresponding club, everywhere else, you take a cab or Uber.

> My Feed is back though Excellent. I love this feature, thanks @Founder!

> I might say fuck it and still do it if my Superbowl parlay hits or I win big at blackjack lol. A lil extra fun on Sunday before we leave Monday. Spending gambling winnings on strippers is one of life's great joys. I hope you guys have an awesome trip.

> I have difficulty just asking a girl for 'sin condon' with her understanding I'm talking about bbbj and sex! If you want BBBJ but CFS: Quiero una mamada sin condón y sexo con condón. If you want BBBJ and BBFS (Yikes!): Quiero todo sin condón. I'm challenged with pronunciation too just because I don't get to practice often. The good news is, Spanish pronunciation is easy compared to other languages. Especially once you know a few rules and can say the vowels correctly. It's nice that many words are accented so you know where to put the emphasis, and except for a few loan words, words in Spanish sound the same way they are written.

> If you're used to the bar style, what's the typical flow? Like do you talk to multiple or go straight to the one you want? I try to make eye contact, and if that fails, I'll walk over and introduce myself. Life is too short to sit a stripclub just hoping your favorite dancer comes to talk to you.

> I know the best club in S.D is located in T.J Yeah, I mean this is true. What would be your reason for not going to TJ if you're in SD?

Thanks @zdg. I agree that online, there are not many good resources for learning Spanish for the bedroom. It's hilarious that ChatGPT scolded you for your prurient interests. I've also found that most online translators like Google will steer you away from dirty language. I've even found the book Dirty Spanish, which ostensibly should cover the topic in great detail, to be lacking. It feels like 75% of the phrases therein are oriented towards women, not men. Just one example: Si no hay condones, dispárame en blanco nomás / If you don't have a condom, just skeet-shoot it all over me. Funny, but not really that useful to a monger in TJ. On my next trip to this mongering mecca, I'm going to endeavor to learn as much as I can and I will definitely be posting an updated guide when I return. Let me know if you have any useful phrases to contribute.

> Most of my experience in clubs is in South Florida, where I live. Ooof. You're going to be disappointed in Vegas clubs then. Mileage, if you care about that, is much lower in Vegas. I would recommend you go for the hotel show. You can go to a strip club anytime for the rest of your life, a private show is only practical when at a bachelor party, and you have a finite number of those to attend. I'd also vote for 6 girls

The tail end of this thread is absolutely hilarious. LOL @Founder. I hope you enjoy your time in Vegas, and come back ready to tackle these bugs and new features!

@jack, this is a fascinating read, thanks for posting. I've never done the sugar thing, but I do think sometimes maybe that's a frontier I'll cross as I get older.

Thanks for the review PAFBABS. How does the quality of women at BT stack up against HK? I feel like I've read they're comparable, but I've also read that BT has all the leftovers from HK and the women there are not as hot. How would you compare the women between these two clubs?

@hotgirlspls, I think everyone does this different. Personally, I rate the club highly on "PEOPLE" if the dancers are hot. If the management sucks, the bar service is slow or the bouncers aren't friendly, I might give lower rating for "PLACE". But I've seen other reviewers give low marks for "PEOPLE" because they didn't like what management did, even if they thought the dancers were hot. So not everyone does this the same way. In an ideal world, there would be another category for Management & Bar Service.

I'm like @muddy and @eastcoaster in that I'm usually traveling, not a regular anywhere. So it's infrequent that I've been offered OTC. But it has happened to me a few times. Usually after I've spent a decent chunk of cheddar in the club. I think there's a weird inverse ITC/OTC axiom to be had here. In my limited experience, one is more likely to be offered OTC at a club where ITC extras are not available. At an extras club, the dancers just want you to come back to the club, no need for OTC offers.

@blah please do go to TJ and submit reviews when you return. I would genuinely love to hear about TJ from a woman's perspective. The lesbian couple I met in TJ, I didn't want to probe with too many questions because I was painfully aware of not wanting to be creepy. But I am completely curious about what goes down with women at a place like HK TJ. What do chicas think about female clients? Are all the chicas interested or do some prefer only men? What goes down in a lesbian arriba? I need answers to these questions, for science.

I dunno man. I mean, she's ridiculously hot, but is she going to turn into a Vampire at dusk and eat me alive? Maybe I pass for this reason 🤣

I met a very nice lesbian couple at HK once. They were tipping the stage and enjoying themselves.