DMV area update on OTC/extras

CCR has cheap LDs but it's a 50/50 chance you'll get an air dance depending on the girl. CCR dancers call PaperMoon "dirty" because you're more likely to get a grind there, but it'll cost you $$$.

Good Guys and Cloakroom will make you shell out hundreds for boring normal dances.

Honestly, most DMV girls are stuck up as shit and have major GPS. I'd rather drive an hour to West Virginia for some down to earth country girls.

Hmm so Im assuming any sweet talking about anything goin outside has small success I guess?

And in WV you have any recs?

WV girls at clubs are hardly any better. Most dancers at Lust have the same entitled attitude as Paper Moon dancers.

DC area is a wasteland of for Strip Clubs. I've never pulled off OTC and not for lack of trying either. I think the best advice I can give other DC mongers is to save your money for travel elsewhere.

There was an epiphany I had at Paper Moon a while back, where I spent several $k on dances. I did the math and figured out for the same price of that trip to paper moon, I could have flown to FLL, DTW, or TJ and had a much better time, for the same price, even with the cost of travel factored in.

@LeviF

I personally enjoy Golden Horseshoe. Thick nude white milfs as far as the eye can see. I've gotten a couple of numbers, but never set anything up.

@TCabot

Yeah I wouldn't go to Lust because it's basically a topless club now. But I do find the GH girls WAY more chill/easy to talk to than any DMV area dancers.

@RonJax2

DC truly is a club wasteland. The only thing it has going for it is variety. Colombian, Peruvian, Indian, Korean, Japanese. Down in GA it's pretty much just white, black, and Cuban 😂

Tell me more about Golden Horseshoe. I travel through there some but never bothered stopping by. You said MILF and nude in the same sentence and it caught my attention.

Haha hell yeah shailynn!

If you stop by on a night Hollywood Casino has a concert, GH will have 20-30 dancers. Majority white milfs with a few young goth chicks and latinas sprinkled in. Maybe it's just because I'm a pawg man, but god DAMN seeing that many curvy country girls in one place really does it for me. Blasting cigs with trashy chicks. Sippin on decently priced drinks. Laidback atmosphere that's not trying to be a nightclub.

Last time I went I won a free room at the casino hotel, ate dinner in the food court, then went and shut shit down at GH. Downside is there's a bouncer in the LD room so extras definitely aren't happening. But compared to what a full nude grind costs in DC, it ain't bad. ($40/ea)

I guess there is the block in Baltimore…..

Not strip clubs but the DMV has a thriving 'private viewing' industry which is similar to getting extra's in the club.

"Private viewing industry"?

Yeah curious about the private viewing industry…

The world of extras is much more than strip clubs or massage places. Not that i recommend escorts either.
But specifically, agency escorts in the $300 range are your best bet. They work for an agency, so they usually wont have a pimp in the picture, and their management wants them to perform properly for good reviews and repeat business.

By the way papermoon and good guys have the same owmer and same absurd pricing structure of $150 for a 10 minute dance. In no way is that representative of the local market rates in dmv area. You got to remember papermoon is essentially operating as a monopoly, the club down the street closed down years back ir was bought out. I think crystal city restaurant appears to follow DC rules for clubs or they arent allowed to openly sell lapdance for whatever reason. So papermoon has no serious competition unless you either go to west Virginia, baltimore, or richmond. Its a monopolistic pricing structure and they also havent changed their dance prices for like 7 or 8 years. Thats how overpriced it is, that they basically couldnt raise prices during or after covid.

Crystal city has 10 minute dances for $60, but youll probably have to tip another $20+ for a 10 minute dance, still $80-$90 for 10 minutes isnt bad thats like $30 per song. Ritz cabaret has exaxtly that pricing of $30 per song. If you need even cheaper you could head over to ebony inn.

As far as extras from dc or dmv clubs, they obviously happen just like everywhere else but it depends on the same factors that matter anywhere else. If the dancer trusts you, if the price is acceptable to both parties, etc.

I havent been to most of the DC clubs like camelot or archibalds or others despite living so close to them. Part of that is simply time constraints, part is because i prefer agency escorts a lot of times… but i have heard from several people that dancers working at the no touch DC clubs are available for extras. Obviously it doesnt apply to all, maybe not even most. You got to keep in mind some dancers working the no touch clubs in DC, are there specifically becsuse they want to strip without being touched. On the contrary, there are also other dancers working those same clubs who are open to doing extras for money, or who even need it somewhat desperately because they can only make money from stage tips at those clubs.

You got to remember theres multiple categories of sex workers, strippers, escorts… there are some who are in a relationship or have strict boundaries and will be open and upfront about it… they wont provide extras but wont scam either… you have the ones who will provide extras.. and then you have the ones who are scammers.. for instance a more honest non extras stripper may only dance on stage or at a club where lapdances arent sold… whereas a dishonest one will decide to sell lapdances or even sell extras, but then end up just performing air dances or not providing the extras.

Dancers at PM have their noses in the air. They act like you should get them a $400 dance at minimum and are displeased when you do the $150 for 10 minutes. I really wish there were other options.

I like the social aspect of SCs so escorts/AMPs can't really replace them for me. You can take friends to a club and still feel like a normal person. But with an escort/massage parlor it's just like "oh so I really am a desperate degenerate loser" lmao. Couldn't bring myself to get a blowie from an Asian granny, sorry 🤣

Also, still waiting to hear about this "thriving private viewing industry"...

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PAWG Patrol

I agree.

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Also went to CCR recently. I had never been in there but even when it wasn’t busy literally all the girls were not going up to me or talking to me. Only time was for tips. Are they more selective about who they talk to now bc of “extras” being reported? Very stuck up

Not uncommon in tip walks clubs. If you want to interact, be proactive. Tip on stage and ask them to join you. Do the same during their tip walks. If you’re just sitting in your chair, not tipping on stage and not engaging with the girls on their tip walks, you are projecting that you don’t want company. This will be a self fulfilling prophecy and girls are less likely to approach you cold.

At CCR, keep all your ones in a stack on the table. Easier access for tip walks and the girls will flock to you. But they definitely favor regulars there.

Also, told you DMV girls are stuck up bitches 🤣

EI is worth mentioning.

Prob a stupid q but what’s EI?

EI is the Ebony Inn: /listing/592

It's an all AA club in PG county Maryland. Probably the best mileage of all the clubs in the area, except for the "The Block" in Baltimore, which I'm not sure counts as "DC Area."

Anyway, I think @TheSingularity is right that EI is worth checking out.

The “desperate degenerate loser” schtick is all about perspective and rationalizations… the vast majority of guys are paying for sex, its not always as direct and straightforward as paying an escort but fundamentally it is still being done in almost every relationship

CCR doesnt technically allow lapdances, its more likely the dancers just cant always vet who would be a good spender, so they just do the tip walk and leave