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2 years ago
To the OP - This will sound mean but it's deeply sincere and heartfelt. Get mental health treatment. Now.
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2 years ago
Middle aged virgin here
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2 years ago
Go check out usasexguide. If you think we are sick fuckers go read that site. Makes any 12 of us seem like Christ's Apostles.
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2 years ago
We older white guys with money have plenty of advantages in the club. Guys don't get so butthurt when a dancer who is an active participant and thoughtful comes here and says things you may not want to hear. As Rick says, information is key and IMO worth it's weight in gold. It saves me time being observant and picking up on dancer preferences.
And why the hell would some of you event want to drive dancers away from this forum?
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2 years ago
Wavy was it a serious relationship possibly leading toward marriage or a life partner?
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2 years ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
This gives me a great idea. I'm going to go tell a stripper I like who is very empathetic but hasn't agreed to OTC that I'm experiencing paid due to my sciatica nerve and it can only be relieved by a blowjob from a woman in a cheap hotel room
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2 years ago
I precum like a motherfucker so I bring my own lube
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2 years ago
This is by far the best thread to read while taking a shit. It's not even close lol. Definitely Deuce worthy
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2 years ago
I guess I'd date a stripper again the more I think about it. I have posted about my experiences elsewhere. Didn't work out. But I've been thinking about it and I'm not sure the drama with civvies is any less just different. I guess you have to pick the drama you are comfortable with. It's not like we older guys don't have our own drama of sorts as well in many cases.
I could easily be talked out of it tho
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2 years ago
Wolf do you mean it's a turn off if they touch your face? Just clarifying
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2 years ago
@skibum preach it brother!
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2 years ago
Once they leave stripping, they often find love or something approximating love and leave us behind. We do similar
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2 years ago
Papi is right about OTC high failure rate. If it's really what you are after, OP, then you have to accept that and not spend years pushing for one dancer to say yes because she can drain your wallet that way. You need to qualify dancers faster.
I went into a club I'd never been into about a year ago while travelling. I spent the entire night there. While I didn't do OTC, I did an experiment. About 5 dancers asked if I wanted a dance and I said, "I usually don't play IN the club" emphasizing the IN. 3 ,sort of drifted away after that. One spent time with Mr then indicated an interest in OTC. And the other was easy and probably says yes to almost anyone. That first woman who indicated an interest probably has a 50% of changing her mind or standing me up. It's a high failure rate and you just have to be tough enough not to take it personally OP. But in your case, even if you think you've found the perfect woman, there are plenty of fish in the sea. Just move on and learn from your experience.
Remember what Michael Corleone said to his brother, "It isnt personal Sonny. It's business"
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2 years ago
If you have a specific fetish like that you might find an escort who would do that to you
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2 years ago
So roughly $1200/year? She thought you were cheap probably
Look, get laid and get over it. Been there, dine that, I've got the t shirt. It wasn't love. Admit it to yourself and move on.
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2 years ago
Neon. How much money did you give her? Hinting as you put it is a strategy to string you along. Maybe she did like you. Women are fickle. Men are too sometimes.
It's essential you put your dick in at least three other women over the next six weeks, drink herbal tea or some shit, and focus on yourself.
If shit didn't happen in six years, it wasn't real.
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2 years ago
You fell in love. That was a mistake. Don't do it again. You'll be ok
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2 years ago
Good point but it may be presumptuous to assume that lube has the same impact as water. But I assume most lube is mainly water based. It is a risk. It's unclear to me if as she dissolve does my dick inside of her dissolve as well
On second thought, fuck the wicked witch of the west. And I'm not going with the good witch either something tells me she's a bad lay, a pillow princess. I'm sticking with Toto.
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2 years ago
It's ok blah blah blah. Some of us can't help it that the bones in our pants are wide either
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Rick I agree with that. Early on I got taken by ROBs from time to time. But back then I was just out of a divorce, acting like a pussy, wanting to be liked, and thought if I was just a sweet man I'd get laid. I was playing more by civvie rules. It was MY fault. A real man admits his mistakes and learns from them.
A woman at a club a couple months ago offered myle a blow job for $500 OTC. I laughed. She said "What's wrong you are too poor to afford the best blow job of your life?". ROBs will often think you are a sucker and overcharge or assault your manhood by challenging the size of your wallet.
The going rate for OTC here is $200. She was a decent looking MILF.
I told her "No I can pay you $500/month. But I want full sex for a couple hours twice per month.". She laughed. Later that night she came back and accepted. Then I took control and told her exactly what I wanted in the first session to make her my regular.
What I learned long ago is that to smoke out a ROB you have to end the negotiation on your terms with you in control. And if she is a bad fuck or does something other than promised on the first date she's not getting a second
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2 years ago
I'm more of a Wicked Witch of the West type. She'd be a wild fuck
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2 years ago
I'm surprised at how many dancers out there have bad breath or a smelly ass. LOL. I've never experienced the smelly ass in 15 years of clubbing
This is disgusting but I do have a bad breath story. I dancer who was maybe 2nd tier on my list at that club came out of the VIP and stopped by to say hello and planted a kiss on me and I pulled back immediately. I smelled the manhood of her previous conquest on her breath. I got pissed and told her she needs to Listerine away the previous guys dick before she does that. She was a bit upset about it. The fella she fellated was right behind her and heard what I said. I recognized him from previous visits. He just looked at me and smiled. He said, "Don't worry I've probably smelled you on her breath over the years" which isn't true I've never done a VIP with her.
I jokingly said, "This conversation is a little too gay for me" and he just walked away. Bastard.
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2 years ago
Smelly ass lol. Jesus Christ lol.
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2 years ago
I never thought about it but ugly feet are a turn off for me too.
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2 years ago
Women who are pre op trans but I was too drunk to tell and she had a bigger dick than me.
Just kidding that never happened. But if it did I'd cut my dick and balls off and burn them in the parking lot