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2 years ago
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TFPAdventures of Assjobman
The % of strippers who are ROBs is up for debate. It could be 5% to 70%. We dont have enough data on it.
But we know the cluster B, psychopath sociopathic traits are over represented in some career paths, like sex workers, strippers, escorts.
And with these sorts of cluster B traits, most people with these traits dont have morals, or only have quasi morals and follow the law but don’t otherwise have issue stealing or scamming if it’s legal. Its only a very rare cluster B person who has a strong sense of morals for narcissistic reasons.
Selling a lapdance, or being an escort, provides the perfect legal option for scamming. You can essentially tell somebody you’ll suck them off if they buy a lapdance, then do nothing. And they can’t do anything about it. The club, nor the cops won’t do anything.
It’s kind of the same with escorts, but I think escorts are more likely to follow through than a stripper. This effectively makes escorts morally superior to strippers, which means they’re overall superior to them as well.
There are also civvie girls, and probably guys too, who are leading people on to get money and dates etc from them.
I think these threads are useful, I haven’t had a chance to read through the other two yet.
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2 years ago
Tallman some clubs require up front payment for dances.
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2 years ago
Pussylicker are you being sarcastic? Some dancers are ROB’s, some have criminal charges for theft or scamming. Robs as in promising one thing in tje dance but not delivering once you pay for it.
Icee the priciest watch I have is about $2k. I dont know where I would insure it and what costs are.
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2 years ago
Pussylicker, I insulted her first, so even if they charge her for threats, could I potentially get in trouble for harassment over text?
Tetra that makes sense. This is a mostly non extras club i think. Some girls do OTC but thats it
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2 years ago
Heaving icee and bang where did it mention strippers giving money to their boyfriends? Why would dancers be giving money to their boyfriends?
What about dancers who drive luxury cars, have kids, live in nice apartments? At that point can they really even afford to give money to their boyfriends?
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2 years ago
I think at the clubs here they have cameras so theu dont try to steal in the club. Maybe if the customer is drunk enough theyll try to steal. Apparently some waitresses will overcharge credir cards if tjey think they can get away with it.
Icee im not sure they need a license on the east coast. I havent heard of strippers having licenses
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2 years ago
Icee you have a bias against landlords and strip club clients. You’ve admitted to if before, you seem to assume the wealthier person is always wrong. Rent moratoriums are a form of legalized theft. Lapdances are also a potential form of legalized theft if you promise something and don’t deliver. Legalized doesnt mean morally sound. If you can admit legalized slavery and racism were wrong then you can admit legalized theft is wrong
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2 years ago
Uniquename, you dont find it odd to ask a dancers rules before each dance? Especially if yoire seeing her several weeks in a row? It would seem odd to me, if I need to ask a dancers rules before each dance, I would rather not get any dances with her altogether. I generally wouldn’t get more than 2 VIPs with the same girl.
Docsavage, do clubs that don’t require nipple pasties allow nipple touching? What would you do if you got a 15 minute dance and after half of the dance the dancer says no more nipple touching because theyre being activated?
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2 years ago
SJG, I thought the whole purpose of buying a lapdance is that you’re paying for time in which you can grope the dancer. Yes you can’t grope them inside their body, so you cant always finger, or touch inside their mouth, etc, but isnt the point pf a lapdance that youre paying for time to grope a dancer? Plus, theyre also supposed to be grinding on you during the lapdance.
With an escort you pay for her time and she can do whatever she wants in that time. In a lapdance, there seems to be a minimum level of contact that has to be guaranteed in the dance. This should include breasts, nipples, and Asscheeks. You should be able to touch them as much as you want during the dance, during the time you paid for.
At a bare minimum, if a dancer has odd rules like “you can touch my ass but only for 10 minutes, you can touch my nipples but have to stop after they get hard or activated” those rules should he disclosed before tje dance.
Somebody could buy a dance for 30 minutes, and then after 15 minutes the dancer says no more touching. That’s basically a scam. It might be a legal scam, but it is still a scam.
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2 years ago
Tetra whar do u mean by greasing palms at city hall and police hq? Strippers could be in touch with some cops?
Can a dancer actually do this legally though? Threaten someone over text for an insult, and legally get away with it too?
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2 years ago
Tetradon they can but wouldn’t it be up to a manager or owner not a bouncer?
Thats kind of complicated, she insulted me first basically.
Mister orange, they can kick you out, but i dont think they can beat your ass and get away with it. I dont see how that could happen. Especially if you call the cops right then at the same location. If they could get away with that much why wouldnt they just start robbing clients too and deny having seen them etc.
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2 years ago
Icee I like how you twist things in the post and try to turn stuff on me.
You can’t erase what was stated in the OP.
If you’re so in love with strippers that you’re justifying them robbing or killing or beating then that is a poor moral viewpoint to have. Nobody is above the law or above morals. Even if a customer asks a stripper for OTC, it still does not mean tje stripper has permission to beat or rob him.
SJG I mean specifically this sort of situation where you insulted a stripper over text and then she threatens to have you beaten. Can she get a bouncer to start attacking you just for the text insult or harassment? Or, the most they could do is remove you from the club for it, at the bouncers or managers discretion?
Docsavage, what if its a text insult? Also wouldn’t the bouncer need the managers permission to remove a customer over an insult? Or is it purely bouncers discretion?
How would a bouncer or stripper not be arrested for attacking a customer, is that because the customer didn’t want to call the cops or something?
This situation is ridiculous all around. I dont have any evidence its a bouncer she would use for this, i was just curious about what kind of force bouncers can get away with. Some bouncers seem like they’re desperate for any opportunity to use force.
They make a mistake though if they try aggressive stuff on someone who doesn’t drink. A drunk customer might take a beating and forget all about it. A non drunk customer could get them in much more trouble for it.
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2 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
Icee how old roughly are you now?
Also how did you get the job exactly? Where did you advertise since there was no internet. How did you get clients and find them. And what made them hire you was it because of your looks or something. Being in good shape or something
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2 years ago
I cant believe i was scammed.
I havent stolen in over 12 years.
I wouldnt steal billions even if there were no personal, legal or divine consequences.
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2 years ago
I was scammed i cant believe it.
Becsuse the dancer put new rules and restrictions in each dance.
But she didnt tell me about the new rules and restrictions until after I already paid for the dance, in the middle of the dance.
That was the scam. You pay up front for the dance, suddenly the rules are much stricter than last time.
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2 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
That combination of me, 25 and sjg sounds hilarious!
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2 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
Icee, you mentioned me but that story is hilarious! That was a good laugh brotha.
Icee how did you get a job as a gigolo? Are you good looking or muscular or something
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2 years ago
Im disappointed, im embarrassed, I was basically played and robbed. And i cant legally do anything about it since it was a lapdance scam.
Things like this just confirm my morals are astronomically superior to the average person. I mean I wouldn’t steal billions even if I could, meanwhile theres all these strippers desperate to steal $200, all these looters and thieves desperate to steal $200.
The world and people have fallen far far below what they used to be. Im unsure if there’s even more than like 100 people alive right now who would have the integrity to not steal even if they had the opportunity to
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2 years ago
I dont really know if this is disproportionately common behavior in women, or dancers or sex workers or something. I do know it limits my options significantly to where I have to stick to escorts. This is just crazy that some dancers will get stricter and stricter the more dances u get with them
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2 years ago
Twenty five have you not had this happen?
Its a specific phenomenon
You get a dance with someone, they habe rules.
Suddenly the next dance, you assume its the same rules but in the middle of the dance u find out the rules got stricter.
Then u get another dance and the rules got even stricter
Its a crazy phenomenon. Idk how common it is. I basically cant get more than 2 dances with the same dancer due to the risk of this happening. Basically a massive scam risk
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2 years ago
SJG why is that?
What do you think of the situation at hand...? I get the sense the stripper was a control freak...? Why would there be such an issue with milk to where she says that stuff about if it happens in the dance its fine i dont want it to be a dealbreaker though
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2 years ago
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Are you guys having strippers cum in dances without sex involved?
Some dancers actually have a boundary of not cumming and go out of their way to not let you play with the nipples too much, not grind themselves on you too much.
Also would someone be able to ask rickdugan to remove me from ignore? Im sorry i annoyed you Rick, and i wanted your advice on some recent threads
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2 years ago
Jimmy therr wasnt any implication that if I offered more money i could get more.
Have u had dancers do this? Like you have a request of any kind you want in the dance. And the dancers answer is she doesnt want it being a dealbreaker if it happens in dance is fine
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2 years ago
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2 years ago
Isnt the SO what would make them do things like allow touching but then want it to stop if nipples are being activated... or
Or for example beinf careful not to grind and rub their pussy too much. Switching positions often. SO fold them not to cum in dances or, the dancers avoid cumming in order to stay more horny for the SO at home...?