AMERICA S NEW DYSTOPIAN REALITY...COVID 19

Icee Loco (asshole)
I'm a fucking loser
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2…


Best analysis of tye US response to the pandemic that I've read.

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Tetradon
2 years ago
This "analysis" is a bunch of one-sided whinging about "the rich," "corporations," and whatever "-ists" he can think of.

No solutions whatsoever, about what I'd expect from a guy who lives in the womb of academia and never ran anything.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
What you mean is its not a right wing one sided propaganda piece.
Tetradon
2 years ago
No, I mean exactly what I said. Read slower.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
COVID is a mind fuck, the hysteria, the precautions, and that so called vaccine are all more harmful than the COVID virus.

SJG
docsavage
2 years ago
The Covid hysteria ended because the virus mutated into a milder and more transmissible form. The most recent 7-day average number of deaths for the disease here in the U.S. is 316 a day. That's about one in a million people dying daily. As has been true since the beginning of this epidemic, the average age of death for someone catching Covid is 77. This is also the segment of the elderly population in the worst health. It's likely most of the people dying from Covid would have died within a year anyway. People under 60 have over a 99.7% survival rate.

This type of virus almost always mutates into a milder and more transmissible form because of evolutionary pressure. A virus that mutated into a more virulent and less transmissible form would kill its hosts before they could pass the disease on to others. Covid is joining the 1918 Spanish flu, 1957 Asian flu and 1968 Hong Kong flu as something most people don't need to worry about. Only people over 65 still might want to consider getting the vaccine. For others, the long-term risks of the vaccine likely exceed the benefits. Insurance and funeral industry statistics show an increase in mortality among the largely vaccinated U.S. population. This may not be due to the vaccine but the reluctance of U.S. government health agencies to investigate this lead one to think they are afraid of what they might find if they did investigate. Many younger people have already had Covid and have natural immunity so it would be especially unwise for them to get the vaccine, especially since the boosters have decreasing effectiveness the more that are received while the negative side effects increase the more boosters that are received.
skibum609
2 years ago
Aljazeera lol a funking raghead national enquirer. Sick fucking Islamic rag that only Nazi cocksuckers read. Only a cunt would post a link to Aljazeera and expect human beings to agree with it. Let's hope for some Nevada and California wildfires.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Covid is deadly and spreading again. It's evading vaccines and treatments. Opposition to fighting the pandemic are based on far right populist politics. Nothing else. The US continues to put profits before people

Skibitch thanks for showing what you are
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Covid is a nuisance, nothing more. And all the more so with this newest quite harmless stain. The precautions do more harm than the virus and the so called vaccine should not even exist.

SJG

In My Dreams - School of Rock
https://youtu.be/-55rKa7fZTo?t=510
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Vaccines don't work. There's no cure. And for many it's a death sentence
Tetradon
2 years ago
The vaccines work very well at preventing severe disease. That was the original rationale of shutdowns, "two weeks to flatten the curve." Fact is, even before the vaccine, people were sick of being cooped up.

Viruses mutate. There's no cure for the flu or the common cold or HIV either. It's going to keep mutating, and we're going to have to go about our daily lives. It's all in hindsight.
Jascoi
2 years ago
it’s like … People haven’t died before? this Covid shit was poorly handled by the medical and the governments. blown out of proportion. Business disruptions and now shortages and inflation?
shit. covid was started by government action. i’m not going to live in fear of living life. still going to party, mingle, visit and enjoy the pleasures of life. I don’t wanna live forever in this body anyway. cheers!
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
It's being swept under the rug because the business sector doesn't want anything coming between them and their profits
TheeOSU
2 years ago
iceydougee, wazzzzzzzzzzzz up homie?
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
It's ironic that it takes a pandemic to show Americans they can have health care access. Rent moratoriums. Access to viable unemployment benefits.

Then thanks to business sector pressure. The gov caved in and portrayed people as lazy and undeserving of said benefits. And the push to get rid of all benefits and mitigation efforts began. While the gov did nothing against those profiteering from the pandemic and cheating the system with fraudulent ppp and other business loans. It's a huge lesson and setback in the class war
Tetradon
2 years ago
The business sector told people not to like being cooped up?

I suppose that's why the CCP sent out drones in Shanghai telling people to "control their desires for freedom."

Hint, Icee. Whenever you feel compelled to talk politics, just bite it back. Smoke a J until the urge subsides. You never make a lick of sense.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
It was about businesses wanting people out and about because they couldn't stand the loss of profits. Which is why the pandemic is being ignored by the biden regime
TheeOSU
2 years ago
iceydougee, wazzzzzzzzzzzz up homie?
TheeOSU
2 years ago
Lulz
twentyfive
2 years ago
Thank god for genuine medical facilities like John Hopkins and Mayo Clinic so we can get legitimate medical information from people that actually understand this instead of relying on a dope dealer/ pimp
for unreliable information
Tetradon
2 years ago
Right, Icee, which is why that desire to be out and about needed to be suppressed around the world, because of the American business sector.

Guess what. The more money gets tossed about, the more politically-connected hands are going to catch it. Amazon and Wal-Mart set revenue records during the pandemic, while small businesses got the shaft. I know Pimp Logic(TM) doesn't distinguish between the two as "Evil Corporations," but trust me, the former didn't need the help.

China has shown how unfeasible and totalitarian a "zero COVID" policy is. Viruses don't have borders.

We've done all the shutdowns we need, except those needed to keep SJG off the internet.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
The Chinese are doing a great job at saving lives. The US on the other hand has over 1 million dead.

Small businesses gutted and defrauded the ppp program. And were more guilty of price gouging. And now try to work with skeleton crews to fuck employees over for a few bucks. Businesses are not the victims.

twentyfive
2 years ago
It’s impossible to debate stupid people they are too stupid to understand what they don’t know.
Tetradon
2 years ago
If you believe the Chinese COVID figures, I've got some oceanfront property in Nebraska I'd like to sell you.

A million Americans have died _with_ COVID, not of COVID. We've got car accidents marked as COVID deaths because the deceased had tested positive.

Small businesses took it on the chin while Amazon and Wal Mart posted record profits. Government rewards size. Never thought you'd be cheerleading for those two as champions of the little guy, but your logic has always been incomprehensible.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
They died if covid. Over 1 million died before their time because of a botched effort to fight the virus.

You're just repeating right wing talking points and sounding like sjg
Tetradon
2 years ago
Look up the criteria for a COVID death.

You posted some idiot academic's fact-free rant. Don't post dumb shit here if you don't want it criticized.
rickmacrodong
2 years ago
Icee you have a bias against landlords and strip club clients. You’ve admitted to if before, you seem to assume the wealthier person is always wrong. Rent moratoriums are a form of legalized theft. Lapdances are also a potential form of legalized theft if you promise something and don’t deliver. Legalized doesnt mean morally sound. If you can admit legalized slavery and racism were wrong then you can admit legalized theft is wrong
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Tetradon you mean don't post anything countering the right wing extremism posted here.

Bte profiteering off of basic needs I'd theft. Pandemic price gouging is theft. Corporate welfare is theft
Tetradon
2 years ago
Right wing extremism = anything you don't like.

Cope harder.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Nah it's right wing extremism
Tetradon
2 years ago
Cope even harder, snowflake.

Icee, snowflake, get it? Lulz
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Icey, as the COVID hysteria started in March 2020, and then kept extending, I encountered many people who really believed in the scare, and they believed in the lockdown and the masking and they were gung-ho for that so called vaccine. And I found people like this online too.

In the time since I have learned with a number of these that they are on psychiatric medication. And there does seem to be some relation to how they are thinking.

SJG

In My Dreams -- School of Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55rKa7f…

Look what I just found:
https://www.onlinepianist.com/virtual-pi…
skibum609
2 years ago
Wow 1 million people died from Covid when they could have died from something else. How fucking selfish eh Icee bitch? Icee now wants to be Chinese lol. What a fucking retard.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
1% mortality per year minimum, otherwise the mean life expectancy would be exceeding 100 years, and we know that is not so.

So for the whole country 10,000 deaths per day. COVID has never made a significant increase is. And right now, with this newest strain, it is not doing much of anything.

Want to lower mortality? Well Anthony Fauci takes vitamin D supplements, but he never recommends that.

Vitamin C and D supplements, and loose some weight.

People outside the CDC found good treatment drugs, stuff used for other illnesses which are known safe and very low cost. They believe that they could eliminate all hospitalization and COVID death.

Universal Health Care to bring down the rates of the big chronic conditions, obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, kidney disease, heart disease. Universal health care increases life expectancy and reduces infant mortality.

And that so called vaccine, correlates to high case, high hospitalization, and death rate. It's just that the US suppresses the data.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-…

SJG

In My Dreams -- School of Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55rKa7f…

Look what I just found:
https://www.onlinepianist.com/virtual-pi…
Tetradon
2 years ago
"And that so called vaccine, correlates to high case, high hospitalization, and death rate. It's just that the US suppresses the data."

Nope. And finding one blogger that agrees with you doesn't make it so.
Ivermectin and HCQ don't work in actual clinical trials.
Stop spouting nonsense just because you're sore that your internet access got disrupted.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Invermectin no. But HCQ works according to RFKjr and the doctors he cites.

Berenson has shown all his EU and Israel data sources.

COVID has made our population neurotic, or at least it has exposed that this is already so.

SJG
Tetradon
2 years ago
RFK Jr is a fucking idiot. He blames vaccines for autism, which puts him in the same category as Jenny McCarthy.

I can point to a million peer-reviewed studies that any scientist can make a big name for herself by refuting.

You've got conspiracy theories.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
The correlation of the so called vaccine to higher hospitalization and death rates in Europe and Israel has been highly consistent since they first started needling people.

SJG
Tetradon
2 years ago
^ I'm glad we have single out-of-context quotes on which to base public health decisions rather than clinical trials involving millions of patients.

Look, I understand losing internet access was traumatic. But life continues.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Seeing our nation go berserk and precautions that destroyed retail business was traumatic. And there was no reason for this. COVID was never that dangerous, and the precautions did not work anyway.

But COVID has been an epidemic of superstitious and irrational fear. And this is not over until we have that so called vaccine off of the market.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/data…

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urge…

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/all-…

SJG

Tetradon
2 years ago
^ Get back into those library stacks and read a statistics book. Those don't say what you think they say.

I'll take the New England Journal of Medicine over the first guy on the internet that supports you.

Back to the shelter for the night.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Data from Israel and the EU is pretty compelling. People in the UK asking to be "unvaccinated".

By the time they had started jabbing people, we were already pretty close to herd immunity.

SJG

In My Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55rKa7f…
Tetradon
2 years ago
^ Nope. Virus mutated again. Most cases are Omicron which the vaccines provide only slight protection from.

Pick up a biology textbook alongside the statistics textbook, rather than post everything you've read on the internet here. It might make you a more interesting person, too.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
We know that the so called vaccine was not intended to work against Omicron. But it was still correlating with high case, hospital admissions, and death rates.

And it screws up natural immunity. Natural immunity gives you broader protection, more likely on new strains.

SJG
Tetradon
2 years ago
^ No, in clinical trials it reduced severity and death rates. That is what you want in order to build up "natural immunity." It's hard to build that up when you're dead.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
FDA has tried to say it will take 55 years to release the clinical trial data.

"
The plaintiffs, a group of more than 30 professors and scientists from universities including Yale, Harvard, UCLA and Brown, filed suit in September in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas, seeking expedited access to the records. They say that releasing the information could help reassure vaccine skeptics that the shot is indeed “safe and effective and, thus, increase confidence in the Pfizer vaccine.”
"

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government…

https://phmpt.org/

https://www.law360.com/cases/61439abb3a1…

representing those injured by the so called vaccine:
https://www.sirillp.com/professionals/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law…

Dissenting FDA Official
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPTFb2Eb…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYjTlfZn…

Aaron Siri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FArCutSp…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGt6Y0-v…

SJG

In My Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55rKa7f…
Tetradon
2 years ago
^ Which proves nothing other than that you are paranoid.

Read the New England Journal of Medicine rather than conspiracist blogs.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
You're not making sense at this point. You claim people who died or got sick would have done so anyways. Then you claim vaccines don't work. Now they're a dangerous conspiracy. But you still believe sleep cures covid.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Very few people have died because of COVID.

And the vaccines have made this worse.

The best response to these viral infections like Mono, Flu, and COVID, common cold is sleep.

But they also do now have a host of treatment drugs which are very effective. It is just that the CDC is not supporting their use. And it should be with doctor's supervision. These are drugs long proven safe. So if you can get to a doctor who prescribes them, do so.

SJG

In My Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55rKa7f…
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Over 1 million Americans dead from covid
skibum609
2 years ago
That means 339 million Americans not dead from Covid. It's not really one million either, but who fucking cares anyway. defund the police. Homophobia. Misogyny. Wah, wah, wah wah.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
And that is totally untrue. 3.5 million Americans die every year. Finite life expectancy.

But deaths that are caused by COVID, very very few.

SJG

In My Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55rKa7f…

Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
No. I million dead from covid
skibum609
2 years ago
Oh well. Old news. Nothing to see hear.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
It's not old news. Yhe count keeps going up and surges and hospital strains are going on. The gov and media just ignore it coz of private sector pressures
skibum609
2 years ago
They ignore it because only weak shit losers care. Human beings are done with Covid. Live your life in fear, it's very progressive lmao.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
People die anyway Icee, COVID is not taking much away in terms of years. And Medicare for all would give us much more in years than what COVID is costing us.

The overwhelming majority of so called COVID deaths were to nursing home residents. The average life expectancy of nursing home residents is 6 months.

Our response to COVID was one of irrational hysteria.

SJG

In My Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55rKa7f…
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
You're out of touch with reality. You're trying to rationalize 1 million dead as nothing so that it fits in with your preconceived political paradigms.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Over the two years of COVID our normal death rate would have been 7 million.

COVID did not make a big increase in this, very small.

The risk to most people from COVID was about the risk of getting struck by lightening, or getting killed crossing the street.

If one wanted to still better manage this risk and the risk to elderly and the very sick, Medicare For All.

And those doctors who disregarded Fauci and developed treatment regimes largely eliminated all serious COVID cases or cases requiring hospitalization.

SJG
TheeOSU
2 years ago
^ Your asshole closure surgery was a complete success. Now all you can do is regurgitate shit.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
COVID has been neurotic hysterial fear.

SJG
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
You're just neurotic and hysterically paranoid
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
https://www.ntd.com/3-courts-rule-agains…
3 Courts Rule Against Newsom Lockdowns (COVID)

COVID hysteria is not gone until that so called vaccine is off the market and until that idiot Gavin Newsom is out of office.

SJG
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Sjg so Republicans can destroy Cali? Newsom has to be reelected and will be.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
I don't like Republican either. That is why I did not participate in the first recall against Newsom.

Either he resigns shortly after the Nov election and the Lt. Governor takes over, or he will be recalled.

And how could this be, an election going one way and then another right after going the other way. It is because of low voter turn out. It is not how people vote. There are not that many people who could vote either way. It is because of who shows up to vote.

Cruz Bustamante would have been a fine Governor. But in a recall against Gray Davis the voter turn out was such that he could not win.

COVID is not a health threat, just an example of public idiocy.

SJG
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
He's not resigning and he's running again. Your only other option is a republican
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
The word has been put out that he is to resign after the election. That way the Lt. Governor takes over, a Democrat. Now true, she is a Newsom appointee, she will be elected herself in Nov. And she has not done any of Gavin's stupid stuff:

1. COVID madness
2. Care Courts Psychiatric Police State.

SJG
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
That's not true. He's running to win
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Yes Gavin is running to win, and it seems sure that he will win. But even though he is an idiot, he does know how to follow orders.

The way to get him out without his seat going to a Republican will be when he resigns.

SJG

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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
He won't resign.
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
If the party wants him to, because he has become a liability, he will.

SJG

Rachel
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Sukki
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