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7 months ago
What kinds of things do they go to prison for. Is it even safe doing otc with an ex con then
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7 months ago
To a random person on the internet, there isnt much sense in doing it, unless they’re planning to come to the club at some point or living near it. It’s possible the club could have a lot of dancers and it would be useful to know which to go for. At the same time, its hard to trust someone online and know their intentions.
If you know the person IRL, then the question becomes why doesn’t he already know which dancers at the local club are offering what. Is it because hes never been to the club? So then it becomes the same situation of trust.
I have had dancers who certainly did want me to tell my friends about them so they could get more business. Their name is just their club name so it doesn’t affect their reputation if someone knows their club name. They did do extras, but im not sure they would be considered significant. The extras they did included things like breast milk, touching the pussy, or playing with the D outside the pants. Its all stuff that I assume they were willing to do with any customer, since they were all excited for me to tell my friends about them and hopefully get them more business.
Now ignoring all that stuff, some peoples reason for not wanting to divulge this sort of information has nothing to do with the dancer’s privacy or their own privacy, but instead just purely because they dont want the dancer getting more business because they want her to remain as low volume as possible when it comes to OTC. I can understand that some or maybe many guys want the girls they bang to be exclusive to them, but that isnt reasonable or noble and in an industry like this it actually hurts the girl more than helps her.
The way I approach these things is if im not willing to be exclusive to a girl i see no reason why she should be exclusive to me. So i dont even bother asking a dancer or escort how many clients she has, how many guys shes fucking, so on so forth. And I definitely dont go out of my way to try to sabotage her earnings potential or not recommend her to someone when shes open to being recommended. No doubt a dancer or escort isnt going to want you to tell the whole world about what shes doing but im sure many would want you to tell your trusted friends about them to get them more business.
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7 months ago
As someone mentioned if youve done stuff in VIP its a simpler process.
If its your first time doing anything with that girl, then its going to be very tough to discuss any specifics regardless whether its in person or over text. There is a big trust concern on both sides suspecting the other of being an undercover cop, so nobody is going to want to openly discuss specific acts for money.
The biggest dealbreaker, IMO, is you need to figure out if she allows multiple nuts in the same appointment and if she has any kind of no orgasm rule for herself. Some escorts and dancers (probably more often ones with a SO), consider an orgasm on their end to be cheating. Its very relevant to both dancing and OTC because it means they wont allow fingering, likely wont allow too much nipple play, likely wont allow multiple nuts in one appointment, and will likely not allow you to keep banging her for too long even if you havent nutted once! In a lapdance, it means shes going to take extensive effort to not grind too much on you. So if youre thinking a grind lapdance is included in a lapdance, it may not be.
A reddit post from a supposed extras dancer stated she doesnt want people playing with her nipples because she can reach orgasm from that and she thinks that crosses a line with work and her personal life. I personally think she wasnt telling the full truth because there are other dancers or escorts who have said they dont allow the same thing for the same reason they dont allow fingering, and that its because they dont want to get off with their clients, usually because of a SO in the picture.
It’s very easy to tell if a dancer or escort falls into that category because they for example will stick to more airdance type of dances, or in an escorts case they won’t allow the use of any toys or fingering or multiple rounds for the guy, won’t want their pussy touched at all other than with a condom, wont want their nipples played with often as well.
I would add that its not something a dancer or an escort is going to admit to openly if a client asks them. Reason being, its a dead giveaway that they have a SO and its going to drive clients away from them. You would instead have to look at what their restrictions are, and judging from that, youll be able to figure out whats going on. For instance some escorts or dancers will say no to fingering and claim it’s because of disease and bacterial concerns. That could be the real reason or it could be the false reason.
What you can do is ask about playing with their pussy without actually fingering it. Or using sex toys, or even brand new unopened sex toys. If they arent open to those things either, then it likely was never about bacterial concerns to begin with, rather just an SO or pimp related restriction.
Some guys actually stick to only the pornstar escorts or very high end $600+ an hour escorts for this reason because theyre less likely to be pimped. They may have an SO, but their SO is likely okay with them getting off during appointments especially for pornstars who are already doing it on set.
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7 months ago
Are there white pawgs there, or european/middle eastern girls?
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8 months ago
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623Alligators make good pets, at least up to 4 ft long ....
For an STI to be received via oral sex, does it have to come from an open sore or pustule in the mouth of the person providing the oral? So in that case is it worth using your phone’s flashlight to examine their mouth and gums before receiving oral. Is that something you guys do
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8 months ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
How does the people watching work? Are the people watchers also being people watched by other watchers? My aunt and uncle liked to people watch at the mall, but it consisted of making comments about every person they saw, or making fun of them or assuming things about them. I found it to be a toxic thing, basically gossiping about every person you lay your eyes on… i know for a fact they would not want people staring at them or making comments about them.
As far as civvie dating, from what ive seen and experienced money and status will take you way further than looks or muscles. For most guys ive seen, theyre still paying rent and everything for their girlfriend, so they’re still indirectly paying for sex, but with the added headaches of not having freedom
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8 months ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
^the finances seem to be everything these days… good looks help with getting a hookup but people are more materialistic than ever nowadays… for any kind of relationship they will want that guy making some money…. Even the strippers and escorts might have the stereotypical loser or handsome boyfriend.. but they’re getting the money from other men
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8 months ago
^some people need to bust that nut no matter what friend
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8 months ago
I normally wouldnt pay for porn and i dont have whatever tools are needed for the VR stuff. You can still watch the VR stuff but the angles and everything looks off.
I did get onlyfans of a few well known pornhub stars for a month. It was stars who didnt show their face on regular porn sites. To me it was worth the $5 or $10 bucks to get to see their face. Although one of them was a scam and still didnt show her face… one showed most of it but would wear a mask around the eyes… another wanted extra payment beyond the monthly fee, for her to send a video showing her face. If its a famous onlyfans star, their videos and pictures often get leaked on the free sites as well.
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8 months ago
How hot is she? $500 for 1.5 hours can be a good deal… some escorts are asking $500 an hour. Brazilians and other latin women usually charge less than the American citizens or European women.
Hopefully theres no crazy bf involved? I knew a super hot Brazilian dancer, but another dancer told me she was supposedly dancing secretly from her boyfriend.
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8 months ago
Btw pawg emily and jenna starr were escorting out in vegas and also touring the US maybe last year or something. They wanted $1200 per hour, or $2000 for both of them for an hour.
Pawg emily looks good but thats a high rate for her since she isnt as famous as the brazzers stars. It also seems like on her onlyfans she only fucks black men, some of them are completely ugly and old too… it seemed somewhat odd
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8 months ago
Do you need to use protection even for a BJ though? I heard many of them do BJ without covers?
I also heard once enough trust and safety is established there are some who will go raw, only for specific people
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8 months ago
I wouldn’t want someone skinny. I would be fine with the fit chicks who have the muscular leaner physiques like jennifer selter or misslexa. I would be fine with thicc, and even fat, and very fat. 200 pounds at 5’0 tall, maybe up to 300 if 6 feet tall.
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8 months ago
Some posters and even some dancers on here have claimed that some customers in strip clubs supposedly paid hundreds of dollars an hour just for a dancer to sit and talk with them during that time? No touching no groping no lapdancing and not even any air dancing.
If those customers exist i was thinking they may potentially be drawn to onlyfans girls who do one on one video calls. Basically a virtual version of what they were doing with the stripper
A lot of these onlyfans girls will also respond to texts from their subscribers. And will probably do voice calls or constant messaging for an hourly rate as well.
There are also the customers who cant afford or otherwise dont want to get lapdances and instead just want to watch the stage. They could also be attracted to sites like onlyfans or chaturbate.
To some extent, regular porn would also affect those customers and the industry at large.
There is also the virtual reality porn stuff now
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8 months ago
Even the rich OF girls are only charging maybe $10 per subscriber? Making $500, or $1000 an hour is still a big deal to them so some of them will meet their fans supposedly
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8 months ago
Regarding the 25 weeks a year post, why assume 25 weeks a year if she didnt say she works that much?
20k a week comes out to 1 million a year.
Theres no financial planners and no strippers making anywhere close to that. Even the super popular strippers in tourist cities still are probably getting 200k or 250k max. Even if that 20k deposit slip was from her financial planning job combined with stripping- theres still no way she’s getting that every week.
Is she very popular on social media and also does escorting? I could believe she pulls 20k a week if she has an instagram with millions of followers and charges $700+ an hour escorting… is it possible she robs people in the club like scams them often to pull in that much?
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8 months ago
Ilb, yes its true if they regularly offer uncovered FS they wouldnt object to a raincoat. But there are likely a huge number who require the raincoat. I would imagine most of the OTC options require a raincoat? Maybe on seeking, or low volume dancers are more likely to not require the raincoat
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8 months ago
How do i view the comments here? Just dm me as i cant see any comments
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8 months ago
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8 months ago
I do really like the new thicc style. In some cases the very fat women can still look very good. I dont mean morbidly obese 400 pounds, but maybe 30- 40% bodyfat. Keep in mind women carry the weight better so a 40% bodyfat guy would appear a lot fatter
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8 months ago
MissLexa was or is a school teacher and she tried hiding her face in videos but sometimes it would still slip out. It seems she may have just resigned but she could have pursued the getting fired route to get even more exposure than what she already has
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8 months ago
Thats a good point that the firing would bring them major exposure. As far as playboy playmates, there is olivia fox/tayler mercier who i think is pretty hot. Idk if she has onlyfans but she does escorting for $700 an hour. She has a bunch of good reviews posted but its on her own website so maybe theres potential to falsify im not sure. But it seems shes heavily reviewed on TER too.
I agree that since theyre public school employees they shouldn’t be discriminated against, but I believe employment history/extracurricular activity arent protected classes for government jobs? So legally they probably can fire teachers for having OF? But IMO there shouldnt be any public schools to begin with
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8 months ago
An escort (in another country) openly put on her listing that she offers BBBJ depending on your cleanliness. So it’s possible someone could go raw with one person but not another. Some of the pornstar and other escorts will also do raw stuff if you have recent test results.
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8 months ago
There are some cases where tipping the manager lets you get extra VIP time for no additional cost (besides the tip). For instance if VIP is $600 for an hour, many dancers may be willing to even give you an hour 15 minutes for that amount of money, but you would need to pay the manager some to get that extra time.
There’s also the stories of people paying certain managers so they look the other way while youre in VIP.
And there are clubs where it’s become a formality for dancers to tip 10% of their earnings to the manager. I heard some dancers even tip the DJ at some clubs?
I would still follow basic principles. If you’re already paying say $40 per one song lapdance, Youre already paying above market rate and shouldn’t need to tip. If the dancer or vip manager arent making enough off of $40 lapdances, then its the club/business itself that is probably ripping them off and keeping most of the dance funds. In that case, you can just push for OTC even easier to get rid of the middleman.
If its $10-$20 lapdances, you can tip a $5 per dance.
Just a sidenote i think the business of dancers tipping VIP managers start’s because a dancer wants to get favorable treatment. But then the other dancers all have to also do it otherwise they may not get treated as nicely. The benefits of tipping can include the manager suggesting them more to customers, the manager letting them get away with rule breaking or illegal behaviors… not firing them… etc.
if a manager is getting 10% of the earnings of everything a dancer is bringing into the club, hes not going to want to fire her even if she breaks the rules or does something illegal. Rarely do you see a situation like this in other businesses where the employees or contractors can essentially bribe their own managers.
IMO it’s something thats good for strip club managers because they get extra cash. Its good for strippers themselves because they get job stability and possibly can get away with illegal or rule breaking things.
But all this is basically at the expense of the customers, as well as the owners/shareholders of the club. It makes no difference to the club owner whether the dancer keeps all her earnings or tips out 10% to the DJ or manager.
It’s basically similar to corrupt managers who enrich themselves in ways that hurt the company stock price and customers. Tipping the manager helps the manager and the dancers involved but its overall a negative for the club as a whole… results in reduction of service quality and poorly qualified dancers continuing to remain at the club.
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8 months ago
@Phred i wasnt aware that the user accounts opened by customers also count as creator accounts on onlyfans. I was just basing it off different escorts or online girls or a couple strippers who made onlyfans pages. Even a civvie girl actually. All their accounts were very low subscriber counts, not much content. But they would still be considered “creators” even from having one subscriber.