Reflections on the benefit of Strip Clubs during a brief elevator ride

Nice story and perspective

I agree. at my age of 73 this hobby DOES make so much more sense than chasing civilians.

@drewcareypnw

I will play along and comment on your discussion.

“You'd never invite a thief into your house.

So why would you allow thoughts that steal your joy to make themselves at home in your mind?”

:D

This talk about elevator rides reminded me of a story of mine. Back in the 70's I was staying overnight at the Marriot Hotel in downtown Minneapolis. Elvis Presley was doing a concert in town and he and his entourage were staying at the same hotel. In fact had an entire floor just for them.

So I checked in and the headed for the elevators to go up to my room. I got inside the elevator and then a flock on teeny boppers jumped in right behind me. As soon as the doors closed they asked me "are you with Elvis". Oh what a time I could have had if I was willing to risk jail time.

If you factor in what happened to society once social media truly took off (Facebook fully integrating and not just for undergrad students, OKCupid's reaching mass market acceptance, and eventually Tinder being unleashed and heavily distorting "dating" dynamics) about 10-15 years ago, I'd argue it's certainly less worthwhile now to go the civvie route.

Even if, depending on the guy's personal take, strip club ladies (or anything "hobby"-adjacent) are still considered "bad", they are significantly less bad than before when compared to the alternatives.

Course, none of this applies if you're tall, handsome, physically and mentally capable, and sufficiently well off in terms of personal finances. For those guys, it's probably up to personal preference on how little effort they'd like to put in, or maybe shore up any dry periods with spicier non-civvy alternatives.

^the finances seem to be everything these days… good looks help with getting a hookup but people are more materialistic than ever nowadays… for any kind of relationship they will want that guy making some money…. Even the strippers and escorts might have the stereotypical loser or handsome boyfriend.. but they’re getting the money from other men

Young, single guys need to be chasing civilian pussy, despite the fact one can make the argument that paying for it directly is less expensive in the long run. But for married guys, civilian pussy is not an option and the 60 minute strip club romance becomes a reality.

Back in the 90's I has sort of the same thing happen, but in reverse. I was at a club and there was a really attractive early-20's girl fending off guys. I did not approach, but she noticed I did not hit on her and I was people watching like she was. She moved next to me so it looked like we were together. We talked and drank for a couple of hours. I was going to ask for a number, but before I could she told me I should come see her where she worked. She worked at the long gone 24K in Atlanta. I became a regular of hers for quite a while.

another plus about the strip club experience: you can be totally yourself. unfiltered. with civvies you can't do that if you want her to get you off. and this is even if you're her type. the civvies that you can totally be yourself towards only 3 out of 125,000 will accept that behavior. the strippers also tend to have a way better sense of humor than civs.

those days/nights way passed the midnight hour trying to hook up with those like that elevator twat are long gone. i probably could still hit those scenes at my age and somewhat youthful appearance where there's a bunch of 25-35 yr old girls and maybe score that winning ticket. but why man? the high of the chase? some guys get a thrill out of that but the majority are like me and find the chase to be a chore, a job, a real pain in the fucking ass. get your rocks off from the strip club and go home with time to spare to enjoy your other activities/interests before bedtime.

How does the people watching work? Are the people watchers also being people watched by other watchers? My aunt and uncle liked to people watch at the mall, but it consisted of making comments about every person they saw, or making fun of them or assuming things about them. I found it to be a toxic thing, basically gossiping about every person you lay your eyes on… i know for a fact they would not want people staring at them or making comments about them.

As far as civvie dating, from what ive seen and experienced money and status will take you way further than looks or muscles. For most guys ive seen, theyre still paying rent and everything for their girlfriend, so they’re still indirectly paying for sex, but with the added headaches of not having freedom

You should have said....I'd treat you to lunch but then I'd have to declare bankruptcy.

rickmacrodong, "people watching" doesn't mean "staring" .. it involves quietly observing. It's a lost art in the mass of humanity which are totally self-absorbed in their phones. They don't observe anything. When you "people watch" you don't make judgements if you are smart. You just take it in. Not that I'm a habitual people watcher. But I do enjoy observing how society has changed over time.

drewcarey: "This is a little habit I picked up working in Mexico: folks say a formal-ish good day or good night to strangers on an elevator as they exit. It seems warm and genteel in a non-intrusive way. I liked it then, and still do it now nearly 10 years after my last trip south."

Side point, but I've always said hello and goodbye to people in the elevator. It seemed like a common courtesy, and not doing so would feel kind of like hanging up the phone on someone without saying goodbye, even if no conversation had taken place in the elevator. Curious that you went to Mexico to pick this up!

Nice story Drew, I've had moments of appreciation like that many times. "pooning smarter not harder" good one. It would be the definition of impossible to have had all the high quality poontang I've had without spending some money.

@5foot: maybe it’s bc I live in seattle, home of the “seattle freeze” lol!

Goldmonger, ah yes. The 24K club. My first OTC event was from there. I think it was 1989, before I knew it was called OTC. But maybe it wasn’t OTC. I was young enough that I didn’t have to pay her.

@GoldmongerATL & @doctorevil

Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

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Good Times, Good Times.

Ha ha - maybe elevator girl just had “resting bitch face” only in her voice. I get it though - at this stage of my life I can’t be bothered with chasing civilian women. I’ll take it if it falls in my lap (pardon the pun), which has happened in a few occasions, but I’m 99% out of the civilian game.

Yeah I agree. I mean when you look at the quality of girls your hooking up with civie vs paid strippers. The quality is so much better. There no two ways about it. I'm not Brad Pitt, I accept fully but all that just means I gotta work this overtime baby!

@CJKent that was before cameras were invented.

I had a similar experience once. I went for a great dinner at a really good steak place. Later that evening, I was strolling down the street, and I popped into a McDonalds to take a piss. As I was leaving, the guy behind the register said "have a good evening" in a bitchy voice. I mean, maybe he'd give some pathetic excuse, like he just found out his mom had cancer or something. But people ought to realize, when I'm in their presence, it's all about me, not them. I could clearly tell, from the tone of his voice, that he stuck his gum under chairs when he was done with it, and drove slow in the left lane. I mean, yeah, the steak place wasn't cheap. But it was so much better than McDonalds. McDonalds should be grateful I deigned to take a free piss in their bathroom.

Double edged sword—

Some guys have the attitude that they are above you and you’re their servant who should do anything for a dollar ITC—

Same guys would die just to talk to you in the grocery store.

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Pink, I've noticed this same thing lol. Guys don't make any sense to me.

There are more studies being published about the declining birth and marriage rates being linked to young men giving up on pursuing young women, and young women refusing young men who aren't 6/6/6. I'm guilty of holding my partners to high standards, and I felt the sting of rejection when I was younger and before hitting my stride. But to give up on meaningful relationships entirely? That's stupid and pathetic. You cannot be a complete and whole man if your social relationships to women are measured in 15 min increments.

^also girls/women going for the top tier 20% of men - well that number i heard has dwindled down to 5%.

6/7/8. Inflation is hitting everwhere. Is the last measurement done onbthe TMI dvale?

*on the TMI scale?

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Yes? No? Maybe so?

Idk. I guess I never really viewed this as a replacement for anything else. Maybe I'm kidding myself though. Again idk.

Status is the most important factor when it comes to guys getting girls. It starts all the way back in highschool. I saw countless, countless examples of guys who were ugly as hell, fat, not rich, but, because they were on the basketball, football or baseball team, they were popular, had lots of friends and got the most girls.

Nowadays it’s gone even further- if you have musical talent, especially in a popular genre like hiphop- that too is enough. The small time drug dealers in highschool also got women thanks to being popular and well liked. If you looked gangster, and had gangster looking friends to hang out with- that all helped significantly with girls too.

You can see the same in college- but at this point money also starts to matter a lot more vs. highschool. The frat guys got the most women - even when they were ugly or out of shape or both. Student athletes- as long as it was a popular sport , also got the most, even if they looked ugly as hell.

The problem with civvie dating is you more than likely will be expected to pay for a variety of things, as well as expected to give gifts on all the holidays, valentines day, birthdays, etc. it would likely take an extraordinarily good looking guy to be able to get away with not paying for anything.
With a high status guy- they can get hookups easily but those girls will eventually leave if they arent going to get anything out of the situation besides hooking up. A high status guy is valuable because hes popular and that can help the girl’s popularity and status if shes seen out with him, meets people he knows, or if hes internet famous and posts her on his social media. If hes just trying to use her as a secret hookup he doesnt post anywhere- she’ll eventually leave that situation.

Looks alone definitely wont help much for civvie dating, even if youre like an 8.5/10. There are many gym bros who will lose out to the fat bartender or ugly basketball player or frat guy. For civvie dating you have to have money or status or both. Being famous or instagram famous is also a form of currency in itself because of what people can gain from associating with you.