Comments by Elitis

The rule is don't name dancers who do extras. Saying you got extras with *someone* in or out of the club is fine for the most part. Just keep it a little bit vague. Also, small correction: Divine is like 23 or so lol. Not 30s. I was there when she first started working at the club and in the years I've known her, she has, to my knowledge, never done or provided extras in any capacity. In VIP or elsewhere.

Yeah, I started coming here back in 2020/2021 and I don't recall a 15 minute option so definitely long gone. As far as extras here go, something (other than there being a lot more Cuban women) has certainly changed in the last year or so. At the end of my VIP session, the manager/house mom/whatever she is that's been here since at least 2020/2021 popped her head in to let us know our time was up and my pants were still down a bit so she's either looking the other way or maybe ownership changed or something. I didn't see the other male manager (at least I think that's what he was) here either from back in 2020/2021. And protection can be acquired in the bathroom now from the attendant. I probably wouldn't have put as much detail otherwise, but it seems like this is almost a given here now.

If anything, this has just made me realize I don't care to see what's down under at Lust. Can't do anything with it anyway. So, I'll be sticking to the $150 when I come, if not moving down to the $110 or whatever. Saves me some money in the end

@misterorange Had a similar experience like that once. Well, at least the first part lol. I took a buddy out for his birthday not that long ago and brought his friends with us. We get to the strip club and the whole time one of them is just commenting on EVERY dancer to me. "That one's not that hot." "That's one a little more my type". Nice enough guy so I didn't yell at him or anything. Just slowly started to respond less and less every time he made a comment. One or two comments here and there about the dancers? Sure, that's fine. But beyond that, you gotta learn to shut up or talk about literally anything else. @ClubFan yeah, that was the first and only time I've ever taken two back before. Probably not gonna happen again unless it's for extras and I'm super into both dancers.

Young(er) me in an Okinawa, Japan strip club deciding to take 2 dancers I was friendly with back to get dances together to see what that was like. One was Russian and one was (as far as I remember) some other Eastern European. I no longer remember all the context, but they ended up fighting verbally over me in the club and a manager had to get involved. Both had my number and on the cab ride back to base, the Eastern European starts blowing up my phone saying a million different things like how the Russian girl didn't like black guys, was only pretending to be into me, how I shouldn't trust her, how she was married and had an abortion before, etc. First and last time I've ever had that happen to me. The other awkward moment was (in the same club) a pregnant Mongolian dancer propositioned me to go back to a hotel together and "have some fun". I'll be honest, I seriously considered it for a moment just because I thought it'd make for a wild story to tell, but ending up declining, as there was a curfew for lower-ranking military members at the time and I didn't feel like risking my rank (and pay).

There definitely are too many people just approving anything. Seen a few story time "reviews" ("went to club. had drinks for undisclosed price. Didn't see anyone I liked so I left. It was ok.") lately.

I've definitely gotta try the upstairs at some point. I've known about it forever but never pulled the trigger.

I wouldn't say Cheetah Hollandale is "plagued" with bad BBLs. Though I've never been during day shift, but night shift there are a couple dozen dancers and only a handful of even noticeable BBLs any time I've gone

Just got back from Austin yesterday and yes, Spanish helps. I'm not fluent but speak enough to have small, short and simple conversations so it isn't like you need to be perfect at it. You're also right that the best looking girls don't approach, as is the case just about everywhere. They're hot and know it, so they don't have to work as hard. That's just the reality. All in all, Spanish helps but just stand your ground and be direct. Gringo or not.

Only been once, but it was definitely a "make it rain", fake-baller type of place.

" I had one dancer quote me $400 for a 30 minute VIP plus tip, which was too much for my wallet." Keep in mind dancers don't set prices for VIP. The club itself does so there's no wiggle room. Asking for a tip to go back there sounds unusual to me, though I'm only ever there sporadically now, so if you ever have an itch you need to scratch, that dancer may be the one to go to.

"(almost nobody ever sat at the bar long before a dancer approached them)" How long ago did you work here? Because that has not been my experience at all. It was a *bit* better a year ago but now it's like if you aren't a regular, you're lucky to get one or two dancers approaching you at all.

Hooters girls are largely unattractive now because 1) women (in the US) in general are much less attractive now thanks to calorie-dense food available without ever leaving your house, zero exercise, "beautiful at any size", and driving everywhere instead of walking 2) Corporate trying to be family-friendly now lowering their once-strict standards. I personally don't mind the food at Hooters. It's the same shit you eat elsewhere. That said, I went to Twin Peaks for the first time in Miami I think last year and honestly, I think they've got Hooters beat. The girls were alright, no hotter than the average Hooters girl in my opinion but the outfits are much more modern which I think attracts more girls to apply. I mean, flannel top and jean shorts? Women are wearing that anyway. And then as a sports bar it also does better. Screens to watch the games/fights at the booths in addition to the flatscreens around the place, tons of alcohol choices, more (diverse) menu options. It's a breastraurant, sure, but it almost doesn't *feel* like one.

Neither of the names you mentioned sound familiar to me, so those are probably new additions since I've last been there. As far as someone I'd recommend, if they still work there and you're ok with standard mileage dances, Divine or Gigi are two I always get dances with. Jasmine is fun to feel up. Tiara is nice to look at and feel up, but at least during the one dance I've gotten from her, she was very unenthusiastic.

I'm only here infrequently now, so some things may have changed, but girls don't set prices for anything here. It's all set by the club. VIP is (or at least should still be) $400 for 30 minutes and $600 for an hour. I've rarely been asked for tips here but YMMV in that department. Experience-wise, it highly depends. I've heard of (and seen "evidence" of) extras (and powdery substances) but never been offered it or asked for it, so it *can* be had with some dancers. Also, there are two options for VIP, at least for the hour option. I don't remember if you get a choice for the 30-minute one or not, but they can be done in the room towards the front of the club next to the stadium seats with plenty of privacy or they can be in one of the (dark) glass-door rooms towards the left of the area where you pay for dances.

TCabot, yeah I agree. I've been to Elysium just once and will probably never go back. Basically zero parking and that place is wayyy too ghetto for my liking. So, definitely no real competition to Lust. Ditto on the other points as well. I wouldn't even say having to be assertive here is the issue. It's that combined with the fact the dancers spend too long talking to the same person/people or hiding outside in the smoking area. Even if someone wants to and is willing to go up to her, they have little opportunity to actually do so. I want to like this place. It's corporate, yeah, but you get decent standard mileage, it's clean enough, big enough, safe and I've yet to see any scamming going on. But management should really step in and encourage the dancers to actually approach or make themselves available more so.

rick, I've only done shower show once over a year ago so it may vary between dancers but I was allowed to touch. But, of course, you're gonna get wet doing so. Joining in is a no go as far as I know. Bath tub date, she's naked, you're in shorts. There are cameras all over the club so don't expect any extras. You might get a handshake but no finishing. fun, yeah I noticed the same thing. Girls will sit with guys for who-knows-how-long just talking and drinking and not do any dances. Or maybe 1 or 2 in 30 minutes. I've had success getting one of the two waitresses to grab girls for me, but even the waitresses don't come around often enough.

Agreed with the lazy part unfortunately. Really seems like luck of the draw getting approached if you're not the "make it rain" type. And I've been coming here sporadically for almost 2 years now, I think.

That new section is "open" in the sense that construction/work on it is done and has been for the past couple months or so. It isn't really used. You'll occasionally glance back there and there will be a dancer on one of the poles but there's no announcement or crowd back there. Also, I'm fairly certain the "new private dance booths" in that area are meant to be actual VIP seating areas. There's just not enough people or dancers to justify using it for that.

Nice to hear about the VIP side of this place. I've always called it "a night club that also happens to have strippers".

I've only seen one Russian dancer in an Okinawa, Japan club and she certainly was not mechanical. While no real extras happened with her as I was active duty at the time, she definitely took it upon herself to make our time together enjoyable. Kissing, slight rubbing/touching each other below the equator, licking/sucking my nipples (only time I've ever done that lol), taking shots off her boobs. I did have her number and she did mention us going to a hotel, but again, I was active duty at the time so I'll never know if anything could have really happened. On the other hand, she got me in the middle of some drama with another stripper I regularly got dances from who proceeded to completely blow up my messages after I left that night. So, yeah, based on that one experience I'm not completely against them.

^ Interesting. Learned something new today

"I don't know if it was because I'm black, but many of them went right passed me to the Spanish and white guys." It's not lol. I am too and I've been swarmed here before. Some of them wait right at the entrance to grab people as they come in. You just got lucky.

I recommend everyone download and use the DeepL app. It tends to be much better and accurate than Google Translate, although it will still have its moments. Of course, nothing beats actually learning the language but that takes time.

Cameras have always been there, at least since around late 2020/early 2021. The only place any sort of extra activity has allegedly occurred is in the VIP room towards the stages in front with the couches and curtains (and unused bar) inside. And I say "allegedly" because although I've never done or seen anything in there any of the times I've been, a favorite of mine there has previously told me it happens.