Can We Get Back To 6 of 8 Upvote For Review Approval?

I thought it was 4 or 5 out of 7 now. Can't keep track lol. Any system is better than when everything was bottlenecked with site review instead of member voting because at least reviews are making it online without a long wait. It probably just comes down to more of the diehards taking the time to look at unpublished reviews again.

@wallanon I keep seeing 3 out of 8 downvote reviews on the board so I assumed its 4 of 8 to get rejected. I agree more people looking at the reviews would help but I think some people have gotten annoyed at this point.

Like its not even worth it to try

There definitely are too many people just approving anything. Seen a few story time "reviews" ("went to club. had drinks for undisclosed price. Didn't see anyone I liked so I left. It was ok.") lately.

A review is a retelling of a personal experience

^ Unless it’s a plagiarized version which you posted.

I wish we could get a better job from the people on the board policing people like Icey. I think going to 6 of 8 for approval would do that.

The "personal experience" should have enough information for the next PL to know the costs, amount of skin exposure and mileage.

It used to be you needed a 5/7 to approve. Now it’s 5/8. I agree that the change has allowed more shitty reviews to get approved.

@Techman I've told this to Icey already but he's stuck in his ways. The best way to run these guys off the site is to up the standards.

@Hank Moody I think its been way way worse since the change, you can almost say anything and get approved if you time it right.

Another thing, its amazing how guys who post 2 line reviews manage to PM me and others asking for all the details they leave out of there own reviews when they visit my part of the USA. Shows they must know what someone else would want to know.

IMHO, the problem isn't that it's 5/8. The problem is that rejections aren't anonymous. I often find myself hesitant to reject reviews that I think are still going to be published anyway, because then you wind up being the one asshole who pissed on a guy's review that got published. Often I'll just skip voting on a marginal review for this reason.

Also, given founder has experimented with the site for 3 decades now makes me think there's reasons not to make any changes.

Mileage cost etc varies. And most men dont go to strip clubs looking for hookers.

People on here arent professional critics or writers. Some of the people always complaining about review quality have terrible ones themselves

@RonJax2 Ah ha. Maybe anonymous approval is the way forward. And I get founder has a lot on his plate I’m sure he’s got a reason.

"because then you wind up being the one asshole who pissed on a guy's review that got published"

Who cares? If someone has a sore asshole about me rejecting their shitty review, how does it affect me?

"People on here arent professional critics or writers."

No one is asking for "professional." Just be coherent and put some effort into it.

@PuddyTat As a guy who’s frequently the only rejection I sort of get not wanting to be the one weirdo. But as a guy who doesn’t even use the right “there” when I post reviews I also don’t think it’s that hard to just write a decent one.

By the way, are guys who write reviews really not paying attention to what they spend to the point that they don’t have prices for anything? That’s the most unforgivable to me.

I make a point when I'm club to repeat in my heads amounts I'm paying, so I can remember for reviews.

Was that beer $8 or $10? What was the cover again? How much did I stage tip? What were the VIP prices and what did I tip? If you're not paying explicit attention to these things at the time, they're easy details to miss in a review.

"By the way, are guys who write reviews really not paying attention to what they spend to the point that they don’t have prices for anything?"

I'm almost never buying a drink just for myself in clubs where I've been there before, so a lot of the time I don't really know what my drink cost. I try to pay attention, but unless I think to take a note about it right after I leave the club I don't remember what the they cost. Dance prices I can usually remember, door charges are another thing I often blank on. I'm at a point with strip clubs where I don't use reviews anymore so I'm less focused on fills up a box score while I'm there.

I second the motion

I'm in favor of raising the threshold both numerically and in terms of the standards that we enforce. The two things I look for in reviews are dance prices and what sort of dancers the club hires. Statements like "they were all 7-9" are basically useless because tastes differ and our rating scales are less consistent than Angel Hernandez's strike zone.

@blahblahblahs Agreed. I’m big on prices of everything, racial and body type make up for sure. I’m also glad Angel Hernandez is gone.

@wallanon I get having SOME gaps but tons of the reviews since the switch have nothing of any kind price wise, literally not one thing.

Most of the stuff say that is lacking in the reviews are all general info things: cover, dance prices, type of club.

All that should be in the general info section. You don’t need to repeat that in every individual review.

There was a time when the general info would actually have white, black or mixed for type of club but that stopped.

I do agree some reviews don’t add anything to the narrative but I don’t need the same rehash of general info either.

"All that should be in the general info section." Yes it should but how up to date is that information. Prices, etc can and do change rapidly and how many people take the time to submit changes to the general information. They don't get VIP for that and if everyone did submit all of the changes, Founder would be overwhelmed with trying to update stuff.

@shadowcat Took the words out of my mouth

Exactly. The general info is not always up to date so a few lines in the review going over that is still helpful.

I’ll also say the one time I submitted an update to general info for a club Founder made the change very quickly.

I am not in favor of making review voting anonymous. Own your decisions. If you’re not adjudicating reviews because you’re afraid someone will complain, well then that is the system doing its job because your rejection is probably being too picky. Occasionally someone will bitch when I reject for lack of paragraphs but I own that and will defend it every single time.

It’s also in keeping with this site’s philosophy. Founder has said the lack of an edit button is so that your posting history is forever tied to your (anonymous) user name.

Prices fluctuate based on day of week, time of day, and general scamminess of staff/dancers. It is too much for the info page to keep up with.

@HankMoody This just makes me want to advocate for anonymity more. There are people who say rejection based on lack of paragraphs is being too picky. If not knowing who approved what will make it easier for some guys not to care what the crap peddlers on the site are saying when they post things that aren't helpful, then I'm all for it.