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6 years ago
EDIT for typo:
@theDirkDiggler - You mentioned certain dancers seem more into it and others are more mechanical. I tend to think of that quality as being "presence" instead of actually being "into it".
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6 years ago
I think a lot of dancers enjoy giving lap dances but more of a satisfaction in being good at it, enjoyment in giving someone a wonderful experience, and probably the fact that their beauty, presence and touch is powerful. I tend to think of the experience more in terms of that a beautiful woman is trying to give me an orgasm. If I stop there and just enjoy it for that I can have a great time.
@theDirkDiggler - You mentioned certain dancers seem more into it and others are more mechanical. I tend to think of that quality presence instead of actually being "into it".
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6 years ago
@PapiChulo - For me the experience was that porn negatively affected how I saw women but SCs were the opposite. I started typing up something to explain but it got long and I think it would make a good article.
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6 years ago
@SJG - When I was young there was a brief period at a new school where I was bullied. I was lucky enough to have people in my life who taught me the right way to stand up for myself and to stop associating with those who would want to do me harm. The experience of going through that and coming out on top was really life changing for me. I am sure you must have been bullied your whole life and didn't have anyone to give you wise guidance. There is no reason any normal person would continue to hang around in a community where they are continually bullied, belittled, and essentially a punching bag.
I want you to know I do have some real sympathy for you. And it also makes me extremely grateful for how well my own life has been.
It is also really strange to me how you don't really seem self aware. You mentioned in another thread how you don't attack those until after they attack you. I am sure that is totally true. But why not stop to ask why you are getting attacked all the time? And as I asked in the other thread can you find any example of that sort of negativity between 2 members here that didn't involve you?
As always I am sure you won't reply or at least legitimately. You are really predictable so it's easy for me to put you in a situation where there is no response that makes you look like the winner.
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6 years ago
So I thought you guys were making up the thing about him only having a bike but apparently that is real:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=56610#comment798643
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6 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
@SJG - You talk a lot about how other people are acting innapropriatley torwards you or at least what would be uncouth f2f. Maybe if you look at one interaction on it's own that could make sense. But can you point to any example where these types of interactions don't involve you? The reality is that the community here doesn't see any value in you and actively wants you to leave.
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6 years ago
This thread has been awesome. I was hesitating for a few days about whether to post it or not but it was a really good idea. It has given me some areas to work on to be a better person and better expectations as to what I am looking for in my SC experience.
A few people have PMed me asking about my job. I am happy to disclose that privately if anyone is interested. A lot of this makes more sense when you know that part of the puzzle. I try not to brag in an dinner party scenario so one of the things I have always looked forward to in the SC was getting to actually brag about what I do. But 20 year old girls are probably the one demographic that is probably not impressed with my profession which is something I hadn't really though much about. So all in all a good learning experience for me.
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6 years ago
That is a really interesting and accurate analysis SirLDK.
It is also interesting how open he was before the enchanted privacy fence was constructed.
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6 years ago
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lolrunedYour Friendly Neighborhood Average Guy
Never
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6 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
Thats crazy it made it past your magical privacy fence! Are you planning on upgrading security?
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6 years ago
@Lone_Wolf - Interesting question!
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6 years ago
What type of customer or behavior gets the most mileage from you? And/or what is the best way to ask you succesfully for more mileage?
With a customer that is spending a modest to moderate amount of money on you regularly (3-4 times a month). Is there anything you particularly look for besides being respectful that will make you willing to give more of your time/mileage to that customer?
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6 years ago
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flagoonerEverything written by this member is a fact.
Dude... trolling the troll. This is deep shit here guys!
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6 years ago
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GeneraI All your base are belong to us.
@AmeliaSmith - Same question to you, thoughts on my proposed statement?
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6 years ago
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GeneraI All your base are belong to us.
@Subraman - I am curios your thought on my proposed statement in the last post? Good/bad idea?
@General - I get where you are coming. You are correct that the dancers want you as a regular customer. But dancers look at you both in terms of whether you are willing to spend money and also how much of a hassle/asshole you are. Actively trying to coerce them into more mileage probably won't well long term. You'll just get a reputation as an jerk and some of the dancers might decide you aren't worth the hassle.
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6 years ago
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GeneraI All your base are belong to us.
I think it is great to try some variety from occasionally. I would agree with Subraman that straight up playing them off of each other is a bad idea.
I would be more likely to say something like the following to girl1: "Hey I missed seeing you Wednesday. I ended up hooking up with girl2, she is [insert compliment], you guys are friends right?"
Past that if you want a little bit more mileage from girl1 you should respectfully ask for it. Tell her what you would enjoy and ask her if it's something she would be comfortable trying.
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6 years ago
So good points guys! I probably have my expectations too high for initial chats. And I probably need to open up more as that is what most people do.
The frustration I have is more when I have a CF and the conversation progresses over time from party talk to more deep conversation and that conversation is too one sided.
@Subraman - I do also enjoy hearing the weird life drama.
@Papi - Good point on the upscale clubs. The best conversationalist I have met was at a gown club.
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6 years ago
I take the OPs question more generally. Do most of us wait for the dancer to ask for dances/VIP or do we tend to ask first.
For me if I am with a dancer for the first time I tend to only have a quick introductory chat and then buy a single dance. I almost always ask but I don't chat for all that long (5-10 minutes) so I actually find that if the dancer asks me first during that time it is a bad sign that she isn't someone I am interested in for regular status (although this isn't a hard rule).
For dancers I see on a regular basis I am always the one to tell them when I am ready for dances.
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6 years ago
Glad I clicked!
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6 years ago
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impalaThe People's Republic of Pennsylvania
I would also agree that SJG is not a traditional troll. But the fact that everyone ignores him can be really damaging to lurkers who assume that his advice is legitimate.
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6 years ago
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impalaThe People's Republic of Pennsylvania
Reddit has a thing called shadowbanning that would work well here. Basically a member gets put on ignore for most everyone but they don't know it.
For Tuscl I would recommend something similar. Say if a member gets ignored by 20+ people they start getting automatically ignored by a percentage of everyone.
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6 years ago
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impalaThe People's Republic of Pennsylvania
@JimO - Maybe proofread before you hit post....?...?...?
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6 years ago
@lolruned - It's good info for dancers. I think it is a good thing for dancers to submit reviews and even when I review a club I try to include things that would only be useful info for dancers.
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6 years ago
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impalaThe People's Republic of Pennsylvania
Yeah the trolls suck.
Obviously the most damaging is SJG. Since no one ever challenges him it looks like to a casual newb lurker that he gives legitimate advice.
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6 years ago
I read that review as being written by a dancer who doesn't want to reveal she is a dancer. I think it is acceptable.