review comment
9 years ago
I dont see anything wrong with dancers reviewing the SC on TUSCL from the other side of the wall if they do it with enough detail as a typical TUSCL PL. The price structure the dancer has to follow is one of the best things a dancer can reveal.
If for example, she gets no more $ per minute/song doing open LDs, vs VIP room LDs, that would explain in some SCs, why no dancers push VIP, or why they would demand $ above VIP room price for extras, or why the SC is a "OTC" "get her number" place. A dancers cut or quota for "drinks" is also good to know. Also a dancer's description of "you will be grabbed all over by all the customers here if you work here" says exactly what we TUSCLers need. A SC can have 2 dancers out of 10, that knock off all hands (no touching) during LDs, but the other 8 dancers are complete freaks (extreme mileage). If a number of one time visit business trip TUSCLers goto the club, and pick the same 2 dancers over and over, since they are the best looking ones, the SC will have an unfair reputation that it low mileage instead of being high mileage.
Also if a dancer on TUSCL reveals the prices she pays, if you go as a custie, and stripper says "I havent made enough tips for my house fee tonight", you can ask "how much did you make tonight?" and bust her SS right there, or know if you can really made a deal with her. Also, this doesnt apply to USA SCs because this is Jesus Country, but what is the "leave early" fee or policy of the SC? You need to know if she is BSing you or not on OTC prices for an accurate comparison of her price to local escort prices.
Also on multiple dancers on 1 stage per song SCs, how do the 2 dancers split the tips? I once had a dancer tell me, "dont tip me here [stage], shes older than me and is in with security and will take all dollars you gave me". That dancer later told me, multiple dancers on stage here a tag team and dance together so they agree to split tips. My dancer asked the DJ to go on stage after chatting with me, even though senior stripper was there, to show her pussy to me before a bottoms on LD. My dancer wouldn't otherwise have gone on stage.
review comment
9 years ago
I dont disagree with you that the shower shows are the primary way to see nudity here. The stage nudity is rare here. I dont think the shower shows are an equal replacement for nude stage dancing because the lighting in the shower rooms is monochrome red or monochrome green so the dancer looks not human, like a B&W photo. On the other hand, if you have a fav dancer, 30 mins of watching her instead of 3-4 minutes doing pole dancing is a big plus assuming you really get 30 mins of time to watch her in the shower room.
article comment
6 years ago
It is alot better nowadays. 15-20 women every night. CLVT tends to hire thin NY or NJ girls who aren't transplants, but you get an skew towards dark girls but not urban brickhouse strippers. Lido loves their their fake blondes from fly overstates experimenting with lesbianism and man-hating. I think CLVT skews to really young or really old. No strippers between 23 and 30. CLVT venues arent somewhere to bring your potential business partner to get him drunk to sign an investor agreement. Drink prices nowadays are on cheap side at CLVT. Its still pricey because it is a strip club, but its $1, $2 or $3 cheaper a drink than its competitors. No PLs comes in groups here. It is all solo PLs. But that is good since I dont get ignored for coming alone unlike at other places where dancers are told to ignore solo PLs unless they look like retired whales. If you want to getting lapdances and chatting with dancers CLVT fits the bill. Of all the CLVT locations, I like all of them except the one near Penn Station. Not alot of seats there so you might have to stand and not alot of privacy. The Penn Station location is still better than Lido in all ways IMO. The stripper to PL ratio is always really good at CLVT. Sucks for the strippers, awesome for me.
article comment
7 years ago
@3LeggedMan
Waitress interrupting every song in VIP asking for a drink is an anti-extras policy by the club. You have to give her a $100 tip to go away.
article comment
7 years ago
Die Happy announced no party this week. Maybe it is because of Easter. Maybe it is because there isn't room for more than 4 LD parties in NYC. The last #5 LD party, LPL died Fall 2016. CLVT only exists because it has no venue rent to pay. There is one LD party I see advertising on CL for girls but I can't figure out its customer facing real name from the text of the ad, and I've never seen any LD parties operate in that area of Manhattan. I've found MN, LD, and SVT ads for girls. I've never seen a girl recruiting ad for DH. IDK how DH finds girls other than word of mouth. Is that ad really for Snctm? LMAO
article comment
8 years ago
Lido house fee is $100/night. Customer cover is $20 or $40 depending on entry time.
Without a house fee/tip out/whatever you call it, strippers will sit on their phones the whole night unless they hear a helicopter landing on the roof of the SC dropping off a customer. Very low house fees can mean many strippers show up, they have nothing else to do, theyd be on FB at home if not in the SC. But with very low house fees, they will be very picky about interacting with customers, because they dont have any expenses to cover.
SVT and Lido are NOT open every day of the week. Instead of mandatory shifts, LDR and SVT just stay CLOSED on dead days. Normal SCs are always open for reputation reasons. LDR and SVT use a psuedo-RSVP system. Normal SCs are like Walmart, always open except for weather emergencies. If normal SCs started to be open only Thu-Sat, their reputation would be killed and their customers would never come back. You come to a SC, door closed, you go somewhere else, and never come back.
Normal SCs must subsidize dead days to keep their reputation for busy days. The lapdance parties (SVT/LDR) dont, because they aren't open every day, and they are never in the same place 2 days in a row. Without checking the schedule, its impossible to goto a lapdance party.
@Dolfan
2 of my reg SCs have sliding house fees based on entry time. One example, $10 at opening. $120 if you arrive after the state's last call (which means a dancer worked at another SC that night then came to mine).
article comment
8 years ago
I'll cover free food and free bus taps (yeah, the bus, dont like it girl? theres more girls out there) on no sex dates, just like civie girls. I've never had a "pay it back" type scenario done to me. Just future, please come to the club requests with no commitment from me. I think all my strippers know I'm too smart to fall for a pay it back/borrow scheme, or I'll immediately P4P them.
article comment
8 years ago
Lido are girls rejected from SVT. DH is girls rejected from Lido. IDK what MN is on the pecking order. DH dancers are as old or older than the customers there (MILF). I've seen 3 ex-Lido girls in 3 visits to DH but they dont want to know me at Lido or DH and I've never spoke to them.
FA has alot of young first timers who never tried sex work before (some look like models, or "you are too pretty to be here"), and senior fetish freak alt lifestyle girls. Goth, tats, punk, hipster, hippie, dreads, death metal. Swingers, polyamrus, permanently single sluts, kink.com. No stripper or pornstar looking girls. Silicon and lip injections are very rare, or fake tits look natural in a bra and not oversized. Very few girls have asses unless you want a stomach with that. Every skin color, but half white, rest is equal split between asian, latina, and various shades of AA. Every BMI but papi-chulo wouldnt like it here. Makeup minimal or none unless its a goth girl, then very heavy. No glitter. I've always found something I like at FA. There isnt enough time in the night to go through all the girls I am interested in so there is a queue in my head for the next visit of girls to talk to.
article comment
8 years ago
I'll give an update to my OP, apparently I was in wrong kinds of SCs in my city where girls were "trained" that kissing is not required to make a $1 or "against the rules". I eventually did find a SC in my city where 2 out of 3 strippers instantly DFK, but there is no VIP room sadly so I'm torn between my regular ratchett SC with VIP rooms with DATY and stick shifting and the DFK factory SC with no private rooms. What is interesting about this DFK factory is they only hire virgin strippers, from modeling or escort agencies, who have never been told "you dont kiss in a SC".
Hip hop culture infected the SC world and set the expectation that ass shaking, with no eye contact, is what a man wants, because "I aint letting a dirty ho touch me [in the SC], I get all the pussy I want for free, Im in the club showing off $$$ to my posse". Most SCs are like that, but if you search search and search, you will find the gold nugget, sadly, its the same process like civilian dating.
article comment
8 years ago
I prefer polyester or rayon suits or clothes in general. Wool is expensive and wears down and often too hot to wear. Cotton is like paper and rapidly wears away after a year or two. I've never had crotch blowout on polyester pants and shorts, I have it all the time with cotton pants. Plastic tits and plastic clothes make the world a better place.
article comment
8 years ago
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minnowAny place that interests me.
@shadowcat @mjx01
I only once I tried to use a taxi for SCing, they wanted $60 for 4 miles at 1 AM, and said it will be 2 hours until they come (I'll be sitting outside the SC for one HOUR by myself after it closes). I can walk along the interstate faster and for free. Every other taxi company just had voice mails, which I interpret as "we closed for the night". In my home town of 128K people, 3rd largest in the state, the only taxi company licensed in the city shuts down between 1 AM and 6AM. 1 AM is last call, and last bus time. Was a real problem when car ran out of gas, taxi is closed for the night, AAA wants 4 HOURS to show up. Eventually a cop wound up driving me and my friend to the nearest 24/7 gas station (no pat down before entering the back of the patrol car lol), us getting gas, then driving us back to the car. Funny that he checked with his flashlight our fuel gauge when we turned on the car to make sure we werent lying the whole time.
article comment
8 years ago
1. Why do they scan IDs? Am I going to get some advertising in my mailbox now? Sure hope not.
UC cops/banned customers/liquor license rules.
2. Wonder if Janie (Current Fave) is here tonite. Last time with her was awesome.
Get her number, if she wont give it to you in 2016, she will give minimum service to you in VIP/air dance anyway.
3. Are there any cute black spinner around tonite?
No, "fat is beautiful" with black culture.
4. The bartender is the hottest girl in the place. Wonder if she does LDs/VIP? Maybe I'll ask if I don't find a good dancer.
Read TUSCL review, find out beforehand. Bartender/waitress LDs are usually more expensive than regular strippers in the same SC.
5. That girl on stage is nice. How much should I tip to get her to stop at my table instead of running to the dressing room?
Nothing, just walk up and say high. If you made contact, she already knows you want to fuck her and there is $ to be made.
6. That fugly chick with the short hair is coming my way. Please God make it pass. "Oh hi there. No, nobody's sitting there yet"
"sorry, your not my type" or "Im not planning to buy dances, but I can buy you a drink" or "Im not planning to buy dances, but I can use the company"
7. If I go to the men's room will she get the hint? Gotta try something. What if Janie comes by while Godzilla is parked at my table?
Just tell godzilla you dont have any $ tonight or you wont spend on her or you want to find other girls tonight.
8. The chick from on stage is coming over! What? She's Godzilla's BFF! Oh, the humanity! This is a disaster. Now I'm sitting here with Beauty and the Beast.
I've split tag teams regularly, sometimes the beast will make it hard and try to convince beauty to not go alone and he isn't worth it, but I always win in breaking up the tag team and taking only the hotter one to VIP. Dont worry about hurting the ugly ones feelings, this a SC not real life.
9. I wonder is Beauty worth taking directly to VIP, bypassing the standard audition lapper. Hmmm.
Never.
10. What? You promise the BEST VIP EVER? At only 2x the normal rate? Decision made. Pass.
"what do I get with that?" be prepared to have a drink thrown in your face, her getting up and walking away, or a catfight, but you have to say it, any $ above club minimums is serious business for serious discussion. If she promises a BJ, or whatever, no tip, if she fails to deliver oh well, but tips never come without breaking house rules.
11. B&B have left my table. That was close.
Stupid.
12. Wait. Is that Janie? Hope she sees me.
13. Hallelujah chorus! She's approaching!
14. "Sure I remember you." Who could forget THOSE tits? "I'd LOVE to go back to VIP". Just $200 to the manager and off to the Stairway to Heaven.
I answer honestly, I dont really remember you or I dont remember, its been so long.
15. Oh yessir. No touching the titties or kitty. I understand.
Did you get read the rules before or after paying?
16. Glad he's gone. Here comes DATY! Yum yum. Sure, just reach under the leg of my shorts. That's niiiiiice! YES! YES!
17. Thank you Janie, you're the greatest.
Lol, cameras arent watched.
article comment
8 years ago
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john232425Game recognize game man, game recognize game.
Pick the cheapest type of dance at the SC for exactly 1 song, if she knocks your hands off, or pins them, dont continue. Dont ask the rules, you will always get the "touching fee" then. When at the POS, or before you agree to the dance, tell the stripper, "if I like the XXX[cheapest]XXX dance, I'll go to VIP with you". She knows she is being watched for performance now and the rules magically disappear (no hand pushing off, maybe 1 or 2 lip to lip kisses, etc). I've had once case where a a stripper kissed a few times in semi-private LD, and then in private room pushed my face away each time and became all dom instead of sub. She never worked at my SC again tho.
article comment
8 years ago
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minnowAny place that interests me.
I dont drive, I've made it work with public transit and SCs. Sometimes the rides are a dream as much as the SC, especially when the local public transit system uses large Greyhound style buses that roll down highways and sometimes go onto interstates. Dead quiet inside the bus, 2 AM in the morning, 2-3 other customers on board. Soft high back seats. See hourly motels flash by along the highway, I smirk passing one of the motels, since my ex-fav lives there.
Blush Pittsburgh PA is urban city, no street or ground level parking, metro and gazillion bus lines near by. All NYC clubs are urban city, no real street parking. Showcase in Beltsville MD was complicated to get to by public transit. Club Ritz in Baltimore is ancient pre-war pre-car era urban city, not that much street parking. Baltimore's "The strip" is metro and bus accessible.
Biggest problem I face is, "last bus of the night". If its a quiet city, or early last call, leaving 1 hour before closing isn't a big deal and I dont miss much. If it is a loud party city, last bus is 10-11PM, club opens at 9 PM, and closes at 4 AM or later, it is nearly impossible to go by PT unless there is 24/7 PT since most strippers never come in at opening time. I've never been to a SC during the day, none of the ones I've ever wanted to goto have day shifts.
Some strippers do take PT to or from work. Some strippers rely on their regulars to give them platonic rides to or from work, or not platonic rides ;). The one time I took a stripper home by bus for safety reasons (stripper friend didnt come) (I really need a car) she said I dont have to pay for 3 LDs next time, and she remembered next time ITC.
article comment
9 years ago
Around me, SCs and civie nightclubs with dancing but not plain bars requires a "guest registry" that any police officer can inspect no warrant. If you dont have a DL that can be scanned, but a passport or other ID, it will be photocopied, then a POS receipt stapled to the copy, then placed in a manilla tag folder. I guess there is also an ejection or LEO sting aspect to it.
article comment
9 years ago
SJG, if they are making breakfast for you, who is making breakfast for their kid since they have to have one if they are acting all "old country grandma covers the table with food"? Strippers under 30 dont want to ever be married and love the freedom, strippers over 30 wish they were married.