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s88

New York

Today something magical happened. I made out with a USA stripper. Regular and DFK kissing.

3 philosophical questions should be considered when reading this post. Was it just luck? A statistical guarantee I'll find a dirty stripper I like after many many SC visits? or "the system" works, even on the first try?

This visit to the SC is the first time ever, I decided to try "the system" and wear a suit to the SC instead of the normal clothes I wear which are a bit hippie, alternative, emo or skateboard punk. I am dressing younger than I should be for my age. I also shaved off my beard for the fuck of it. Someone said it will make me look younger. It worked, today I was guessed 13 years younger than I really am by the stripper, a record for undershooting my age.

I goto this SC every week or 3. No more than 3 weeks pass without a trip. This SC is at least 50% black, 80% big ass. Ratchet is the best word. Finding a dancer is tough. Most will crush me if they give me a LD. I walk in pissed because there is only 1 known good dancer #2 from https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4… that gets me consistently hard and I wont buy more than 1 dance from her today. Even more in a shit mood since my BFF's cousin told me why she is a unstable drug and alcohol abuser always in trouble with the law. Her boyfriend of 3 years, from when she was 14 to 17, was a nut job. He had a BDSM fetish that she participated in. When she met him, she was 14, he was 23. I thought nothing wrong about it back in the day because young girls love to fuck old men. The reason they broke up and the BDSM I never heard of until today. I twice shared beers with him alone, he was very intelligent, but talked about Anime, UFOs, Freemasons and the Illuminati a bit more than I want to hear. Had they not broken up, I'd would've kept in touch with him. Going to a SC after hearing this heavy shit, is just heavy.

So I goto my SC, and see a new stripper who matches my criteria, and she is thin enough to fuck. Her name was Madison. My SC on TUSCL has, for the VIP rooms, through all the pages, zero reviews of extras, happy endings, "satisfied". You aren't getting anything else other than 100% clean grinding and titty touching. 100% reject rate for extras when the reviews mention it. A couple strippers, not all, but more than 1 got this great idea, that touching strippers in the VIP is $40. My first 3 visits ever to this SC, 9 months ago, I got the "touching is extra" line, after ~3 visits, all the dancers that charged for touching, stopped asking and let my hands roam in the usual place and haven't tried for 8 months now to get more than the dance fee out of me. I guess they know me by face, and I know the rules of the club and the minimum service level in VIP. I never paid the $40 fee since I stopped touching and let the dance finish each time they tried it and gave no tip.

Back to Madison, 28 years old, said she has 2 kids, small saggy post partum tits, super short, super thin (rock hard abs) (how da fuck is this possible?), wore no makeup (she needs it). She said she is from Florida, and its her 1st month in the snowbelt and her 1st week at my SC. Madison has the most ink in the SC. Like a middle america stripper. She is out of place here if ranked by square inches of ink. She is no college girl. I asked if she was a stripper in Florida, and she said yes. I asked if this is the only SC she worked at in my city, she said yes.

On stage, I was the only one out of 15 customers that gave her any dollars for her 3 song set. My SC is unconditionally nude on stage, but many strippers hate the pole, hate the stage, etc. Dancer #2 never squats or sits, spreads her legs, or puts her weight or a leg on the pole. Dancer #2 told me, "girls get injured when they do pole tricks", I guess that is why Dancer #2 is horrible on stage. A good stripper at my club will either do a lesbo show with a partner stripper on stage, or sit on the stage and spread her legs. Madison realized I was tipping her ($3.33 per song for 3 songs) while all other 15 customers either turned their chairs 180 from the stage, or 6-10 feet back away from the stage and watched. All other 15 customers are thug dressed. I am in a suit.

During Madison's sets, I pulled my chair to the stage, she saw that and moved towards me on the stage, she spread her legs, spread her slightly gaping pussy and did squeezes of her pussy while looking at me. 10 out of 10 for her stage performance. I'd clap my hands if it wasn't a SC. I've gotten poor VIP room dances before from dancers who do that at various clubs, so whoreish stage performance mean a little bit in my thinking, but it is almost means nothing IME. If its Fri/Sat, getting 2 or 3 newbie but loaded non-hobby/non-PLs that will never come back to the SC into VIP for 1 hour with a whoreish stage performance, and delivering very little for that 1 hour, is a good hustle. Once you commit, there are no partial refunds of unused time.

After her songs, she comes and sits on my lap, very strained artificial conversation with me asking all the questions and her asking me none except my name, but eventually I go for the corner semi-public dance for a trial dance. In the POS line for VIP, the first time I broke the ice and made her smile, was I played with her was "guess my age", we did both sides. She thanked me for guessing a high 23 (real 28), and she said most guys guess 18 and they are pedophiles. Right before the dance starts we discuss the song the DJ is playing, we end in a disagreement of opinion about the artist but joking smiles on both sides. Now this is where the story with Madison starts to deviate from the 2 dozen other dancers at this SC I did over 9 months. During the corner semi-public LD, she gets on her side, as if 1 leg will rub johnny, but she does something different, she lies sideways next to me, lifts one of her legs up with her hand, so I can see her 1 piece swimsuit covered pussy. I've never seen this position used before by any dancer. She isn't even touching me the way she lying on the bench, just posing. She pauses with her leg up, I take my hand, put it on her covered tits, pull it slowly down her chest to her covered pussy (give her an opportunity to stop me from going to the VJ), do 2 circles around her covered clit and pull my hand away, not knowing what will happen. She never stopped me, and then smiles after I pull my hand off her covered pussy, and gets into a normal LD grinding position. The rest of the semi public LD is uneventful, emotionless, and routine as all other dancers give at this SC.

After the single corner LD is finished, she doesn't mention VIP or anything else. As if she is going onto her next customer and I was stinky (doesn't shower) broke PL, or she knew I bought a "pity dance" with a dancer not my type. I stop her and suggest VIP room. We go.

Remember, this is my first ever SC trip in a suit. On my trip to the VIP, a strange thing happened to me. The normal routine is you get in a line with the stripper at the POS, wait like McDs, and the POS person gives the stripper 2 receipts. At the VIP room door, a bouncer puts one of the receipts in his bouncer bag and lets you and the stripper walk by. The POS line is not a bad thing, as there is universal hand holding, gazing, and chatting with the dancer you are about to VIP, this is the only line in the world you want to be as slow as possible. My SC is owned by the mob. All female and male staff are black except that any white man who is staff is either the manager or owner/investor/partner. The owners/partners don't hide on their social media accounts that they own this and other SCs. Now what was strange is this time I am wearing a suit doing the system, a man I'll call Scarface came upto me and Madison in the POS line. He is a short white very old guy with gelled white hair, blue pinstripe suit, pocket watch and gold chain, and handkerchief. He is dressed fancier than the owner and the manager. He says "I can help you out, follow me". I've never seen Scarface before. He isn't "the owner", "the partner" or "the manager" I know. Scarface walks me and Madison through the bouncer at the entrance of the VIP room, then walks us to a booth, takes my money in the VIP room hallway, counts it, then says its correct. He then begs for a drink, a tip, a lil something for me (Scarface). HAHAHA, must be because I look like a million bucks. No, fuck you Scarface. I don't get to skip the POS line when I am wearing regular clothes for the last 9 months, and now that I put on a suit, I can skip the line, fuck you for your ignorant shit Scarface. In any case, the SC has signs everywhere saying to not tip security, so WTF do you get a tip? This isn't a CBD clip joint where you have to bribe the head bouncer to touch a dancer during the table dances (no semi public LD option) or you will be dragged out by 16 bouncers in 10 seconds (2 bouncers holding each limb, the other 8 form a perimeter so your friends can't rescue you). I debated for a second to tell him "what do I get for tipping you? are you going to give me a blow job?", then I thought I shouldn't say that to the Cosa Nostra member. I said "I do not buy drinks here", he gave up and left me and Madison alone in the VIP room hallway. If he didn't give up, I would've confronted him who he is, and why I should even spend money in this club, if I have to grease security for the right to enter VIP, when the DJ says the prices every song and its on all the TV screens. I was so pissed I forgot to ask Madison who I just spoke with, so IDK Scarface's name.

Now no prior discussion of extras or tips happened between the semi-public test dance and the start of the private dance. She just begins her thing in the VIP room. At first cowgirl grinding, no emotion on her face, looking at the wall above my head. A few seconds later turns around with her back to me. I start to get irritated in my mind. Oh no, not another ratchet twerking dancer (Madison has no fat to twerk). No face, no stomach, no pussy, is the description of a gloryhole. Back to me grinding is what I get for going to a SC in the projects instead of the no touching clip joints in the CBD.

So after the curtain closes. Madison begins her dance, I order Madison to turn around "babe can you turn around, I want to see your front", she turns around, gets on me the right way facing me, then looks in my eyes and smiles, totally changing her personality from the emotionless "dead inside" "look at wall" look she had for the first 15 second to a much better personality. She then leans over and press her left ear to my right ear, and rests her chin on my shoulder. I immediately do 3 light kisses of her neck. Maybe it will get me something. Its never worked before. Other dancers I neck kissed, it got me nothing, like titty sucking gets nothing and is considered a standard part of the LD. Madison puts her other arm around me and starts moaning immediately after the neck kisses. Then I moan. After some seconds she unwraps her arm and goes back up, I keep eye contact with her (she and I can't see each other faces if our heads are side by side). Some dancers close their eyes and never look at you when grinding or look at the ceiling or wall. Other strippers look in your eyes but keep their heads and face at least 1 foot away from you so you don't get ideas. Madison put her head on the padded seat bench back and put her sweaty cheek against mine. A first for me. A few seconds later she moves her head away from the bench back and looks me in the eyes again while grinding. I lean up a little bit, she doesn't move her head back, she moves her head sideways towards me while grinding, our noses are now bumping between the grinds, a second later, I do a kiss. I panic in my head, WTF just happened? I just kissed a stripper after 3 years of SCing, I'm expecting in the next second for her to shove herself off me, and give me a lecture about "rules". During the first kiss she moves her lips correctly and matches mine. She had the choice to not have moved her lips, or sucked them in and closed her mouth to indicate no kissing but she didn't. After lifting my lips off hers, and seeing she hasn't moved her head back, I go in again for more. Twice our teeth hit during the make out session, remember she is grinding on me, but she ignores that. IME civilian girls usually stop and laugh and take a pause if teeth hit during kissing. Madison ignored teeth hits and kept kissing. Eventually I tried DFK, her tongue agreed also to DFK, but I was very reserved about tongue since I thought it was dangerous to DFK while grinding with an accidental tongue bite of someone, and soon switched back to regular kissing. I did get my answer if she DFKs for the future (yes). She obviously tried to LDK me but I don't LDK. The time ends. I go into my wallet pull $30-$45 out, pull back her bra and stick it in her tit, and tell her "Madison, thanks for kissing me, it was amazing". With the $ in her bra, she steps forward, hugs me very tight and we do 3 more kisses and let go. I then ask when she will be working here again, and in the process I get her number. Her area code matches the part of Florida she said she is front according to Google, so its probably real. End of story with Madison.

During the VIP room dance there was so much sweat from me and her I knew half way through my suit is destroyed when this VIP room session is done. When I walked out of the VIP room, both she and I needed a shower basically. Her BO increased during the VIP room dance, because of all the sweat but it was a turn on. Dry cleaning the jacket, and probably new pants, which I can't buy anymore since they were discontinued and I only have 2 pairs of them. The lap area is so permanently wrinkled it looks a car tire drove over my suit pants.

All of Madison's grinding, moaning and her sweating, and instead of it being slow sensual "strip tease" dances all 2 other dozen dancers Ive done over 9 months at this SC, it turned into LDK style humping/fucking with clothes on sessions. I've LDK-style/fucking with clothes on sessions (but no kissing) before when I traveled, but never in my low mileage hometown.

From my observations tonight, Dancer #2 is very good at getting all the collared button shirt business guys into VIP and she is almost always going in and out of VIP. Madison spent most of her time with solo thugs and solo blue collars on the main floor, sitting on their laps or giving table dances. Possibly once I saw her VIP a solo thug. Dancer #2's makeup is perfect, Madison wore no make up as far as I can tell. I know Madison makes less than Dancer #2.

So, what the hell happened tonight? I thought my regular SC was a 100% clean SC with OTC being the only option for more than kiddie LDs.

Did this stripper from Florida treat me as a Florida SC customer instead of a snow belt SC customer? Ive never been in a FL SC.

Because she is new to this area, but not new to stripping, did nobody tell her this is a no-kissing no-extras club and P4P is >=$300 per hour, whether ITC, OTC or TER, or those rules disappear when you wear a suit and follow the system? Madison never saw me in "broke" clothing the way all the other strippers have at some point.

Did I break through her stripper persona some how to her civie side?

Is she insecure (post partum, tiny ass, wrong state/new, no makeup) and she never got that much attention before, or that nobody customer ever ordered her to show her front (face and tits) before and she was grateful?

Did my suit make her $ hungry or think I'm "not a PL/John" and shes not a whore? But the kissing was not planned or discussed before.

Did she reward me for giving her attention ($10 over 3 songs, placed in her g string, not make it rain) when not a single other customer in front row tipped?

Is there nothing special here, except I found a rare "escort who strips" that meets my criteria in my SC vs a "I became a stripper because I don't want to escort/be a whore" which are all the other strippers I like in my SC? Is OTC almost certain with Madison?

Lets do some math. 80% are big booty, leaving only 20% as fuckable. System says 35% are OTC. So .20*.35=0.07, so only 1 out of 14 strippers I get LDs from will be dirty. My 1 out of 20-25 ratio is my poor game I guess (it also includes some medium ass but fake tits). It also took 9 months, since there are 30 dancers on a weekend night, there only 6 candidates per weekend. 1 of the 6 is naturally replaced each month. 6+9 = 15 tiny ass dancers rotated through my club over 9 months. Almost head on with the 1 out of 14 dirty ratio. This is an expensive game, as bad as stock investing.

Is Madison going to brag in the dressing room she nailed me and announce me as her property, hurting chances with all other existing strippers? If Dancer #2 finds out, I wonder if next time Dancer #2 will completely ignore me, or do special measures rather than "friend zone" to get me back. I want to know the answer for statistical reasons, not that I care that much about Dancer #2. My wallet can feed only so many stray pussys at a time.