Public Transportation To Clubs Actual User Experiences

Interesting info.

In my limited experience public transportation is doable and perhaps preferred in big congested cities where often people opt not to have a car even if they can afford one (e.g. NYC and perhaps other heavily congested NE cities) - in my limited knowledge not only is public transport perhaps the preferred transport method in heavily congested cities but also more reliable in terms of running more hours and more frequently.

Growing up in the south (Miami) it's hard to rely on public transportation although I've used from time to time - we have a light rail (Metrorail) in Miami that runs thru downtown but does not go to many places - many people that work in downtown use it and if I gotta go downtown or its vecinity I'll also use it but that's once in a blue moon since I rarely go to downtown.

My issue w/ public transportation beyond that it can be very inefficient and often make one's commute 2x+ in duration is that it can be dangerous - often times they go thru bad neighborhoods where you'll be sharing the train-car w/ some unsavory characters - and the walk to and from the train station can be a bit dangerous depending on the city and area (even in daylight) - a while back I think either someone posted it on here or I saw it in the news about fights routinely breaking out in an Atlanta train system (I assumed it was MARTA but not sure).

w.r.t hotel vans - I guess they can be useful but then again not too reliable and they also have limited hours of operation.

I can't rely on the public transportation for the clubs I visit in South FL: just would not work - and when I travel I always use a rental although I'm not well-traveled and have not been in cities where public transport is the preferred method of transportation - nowadays w/ Uber/Lyft (although I've never used it); that seems to be a better alternative to public transport or hotel shuttles (at least in most areas).

The only time I make use of hotel shuttles is when I want to get my rental-car off-airport - IME in many/most areas renting a car at the airport can often be 2x/3x vs a neighborhood location - thus what I do is find a hotel near the neighborhood car-rental place and I use the hotel shuttle to pick me up from the airport and then have the neighborhood car-rental place come get me at the hotel (usually Enterprise but other rental-car places also often do pick-ups now).

San Francisco is not an easy place to get around by car, not at all, and especially in that North East quadrant where the strip clubs are.

I have many times taken the Cal Train up and then walked from 4th and Townsend.

But by far the best is BART. As of right now though it mostly serves people in the East Bay. But it is so nice that it would give one a reason to live in the East Bay. And yes, Crazy Horse it right near a stop. Maybe we can get Market St. Cinema back open. And I have measured out on a map the walking distances to the other clubs, from BART. All reasonable, considering that I'm used to walking from 4th and Townsend.

But no, it is still tough, and all the more so if one was expecting to be leaving with dancers. Maybe a boat in one of the marinas, or a shuttle bus to come and pick them up, or I guess the pay parking garages.

As I have observed, most of the dancers live in the East Bay, and I am sure BART is a factor in this.

No way for BART to get to Marin County. And San Mateo County has waged a political battle against it for over 40 years now. Though finally it did get to the Millbrae Station for going to the Airport. And it is slated to come from Fremont into San Jose and Santa Clara now. But we will see.

The original idea was that it would ring the bay, and then go all the way to Sacramento.

SJG

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In New York City, the subway is the best way to go to the club. The subway has its drawbacks, however, in terms of road head.

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I dont drive, I've made it work with public transit and SCs. Sometimes the rides are a dream as much as the SC, especially when the local public transit system uses large Greyhound style buses that roll down highways and sometimes go onto interstates. Dead quiet inside the bus, 2 AM in the morning, 2-3 other customers on board. Soft high back seats. See hourly motels flash by along the highway, I smirk passing one of the motels, since my ex-fav lives there.

Blush Pittsburgh PA is urban city, no street or ground level parking, metro and gazillion bus lines near by. All NYC clubs are urban city, no real street parking. Showcase in Beltsville MD was complicated to get to by public transit. Club Ritz in Baltimore is ancient pre-war pre-car era urban city, not that much street parking. Baltimore's "The strip" is metro and bus accessible.

Biggest problem I face is, "last bus of the night". If its a quiet city, or early last call, leaving 1 hour before closing isn't a big deal and I dont miss much. If it is a loud party city, last bus is 10-11PM, club opens at 9 PM, and closes at 4 AM or later, it is nearly impossible to go by PT unless there is 24/7 PT since most strippers never come in at opening time. I've never been to a SC during the day, none of the ones I've ever wanted to goto have day shifts.

Some strippers do take PT to or from work. Some strippers rely on their regulars to give them platonic rides to or from work, or not platonic rides ;). The one time I took a stripper home by bus for safety reasons (stripper friend didnt come) (I really need a car) she said I dont have to pay for 3 LDs next time, and she remembered next time ITC.

Here in Detroit, is SMART bus regional system. The coverage of the Metro area is fairly good, Michigan Ave. clubs are accessible, Telegraph Rd. clubs are accessible. To hit the 8 Mile Rd. Clubs you have to transfer to Detroit city buses, I've made it around to just about anywhere the clubs are, and yeah, if you are out at night, make sure you catch the bus before the last bus. If the last bus doesn't show up (it happens) you are stranded.

"I zoomed in on Follies (the most popular Atlanta club among the more active Tuscl members). There is a bus stop about a block south of the club, about even with an Asian eatery."

That stop is right in front of Follies. Next to Follies is an Asian eatery, that is a Vietnamese restaurant that makes a great bowl of Pho!

Ha ha ha.....you said "get off" several times (read this with a Butt-head voice)

Here in Los Angeles you simply must have a car, or use Uber/Lyft to get around. Although LA has tried to make mass transit more user friendly and available with the MetroRail system, the fact that everything is so spread out means that yes - you can use the Metro rail or even the city buses to get around......if you give yourself (literally) hours to do it.

1. Big parking garage directly across the street from Blush Pittsburgh PA FWIW.

2. I've had good success with cabs in the few metro areas I've resorted to that option. Biggest drawback is getting a return ride. Good way to avoid mandatory valet.

3. I primarily opt for a rental car even when it is on my own dime just for the ability to come and go at will. Driving in unfamiliar territory is a drawback. (ATL traffic is nuts, for example)

1. bus/metro can be problematic if the system shuts down for the night before you call it a night

I live in a small suburb of Atlanta. I would be SOL without a car. One taxicab company listed in the yellow pages and their web site was in Spanish. In the 29 years I have been here, I did take MARTA once. Drove to the airport and took MARTA to downtown for business. I avoided the traffic and parking problems but it sure wasn't faster than driving my own car.

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I only once I tried to use a taxi for SCing, they wanted $60 for 4 miles at 1 AM, and said it will be 2 hours until they come (I'll be sitting outside the SC for one HOUR by myself after it closes). I can walk along the interstate faster and for free. Every other taxi company just had voice mails, which I interpret as "we closed for the night". In my home town of 128K people, 3rd largest in the state, the only taxi company licensed in the city shuts down between 1 AM and 6AM. 1 AM is last call, and last bus time. Was a real problem when car ran out of gas, taxi is closed for the night, AAA wants 4 HOURS to show up. Eventually a cop wound up driving me and my friend to the nearest 24/7 gas station (no pat down before entering the back of the patrol car lol), us getting gas, then driving us back to the car. Funny that he checked with his flashlight our fuel gauge when we turned on the car to make sure we werent lying the whole time.

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-->"The one downside to BART Powell St. Station (as mentioned in several club reviews) is that there are more vagrants around that station compared to many other areas. That didn't bother me that much, but it helps to be mentally prepared for this by just keeping on walking."-->

That area is actually gentrifying and getting safer. I tend to have a low tolerance for shady neighborhoods, and even I find that particular walk no problem these days, particularly in the daytime. Even the once-terrifying area to the side and behind (Taylor side and Turk), which was once the purview of drug addicts, aggressive panhandlers, gangbangers, and numberous drivebys is now significantly cleaned up, and the corner liquor store where all the gangbangers hung out (which is where the drivebys happened) is now a hipster dance club full of white people. Holy crap, what a transformation.

-->"Some other club/station combos that might be doable, but not as convenient as CHT/Powell St." ---->

Yep, good characterization. My general advice here is, just plan to do a cab or Uber/Lyft.

Since I drink at the clubs, and live in an area where I can't catch Bart, I always take Caltrain in, then a taxi to the clubs (since there's always a taxi line outside Caltrain, it's more convenient than Uber). Then for any club hopping or the ride back to Caltrain, always Uber or Lyft

hate it. In NYC, it takes 45 minutes for the next train or bus to come ESPECIALLY if you just missed the previous one. I would rather drive when it comes to night time escapades. The reason is, it's MUCH less crowded on the streets than you'd imagine after 2a in all of NYC.BUT if you get plastered, you have no choice and the wait may not be that bad as you're too hammered to notice time go by.

Oh and if you want OTC, don't bank on a woman willing to take a public transport with you as she may assume you're too broke to afford a car....even though she been in NYC long enough to know cars isn't the way to go around here. Damn weird ass stripper hoes.

Yeah, with women most stuff is for show.

Only way this ever changes is if the girl knows you and is actually a kind of a comrade.

Maybe if the girl clearly knows that you are from out of town, and came from the airport by public transit ( BART and the Cal Train both get you from the Millbrae Cal Train Station at the SF Airport, with its own shuttle, now. ), and especially if she is holding your out of town business card.

Spending money to impress the opposite sex -> Spending money to keep up with the Jones. It sucks.

In the organization I am building, these problems will all be solved, so that you never need deal with them again. So many girls climbing on you that you won't even have time to think about such things.

SJG

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I have used the MassPort in Boston to get around -- bus and rail -- airport to hotel -- hotel to club. Very efficient.

Now if the strip clubs in Boston weren't so lame . . .

One that hasn't been mentioned yet- The San Diego Trolley is probably the BEST way to get to the border for a trip to Tijuana as far as out of towners are concerned, as you absolutely do NOT want to drive into Mexico without Mexican insurance (I can only imagine the hit you will take from your major US rental firms). This will involve a walk over the border, clearing customs and picking up a cab to Zona Norte ( Hong Kong Club, Adelitas); On the way back you get a cab to the border, clear US customs (Abandon all Hope Ye who enter here LOL ) and walk over the border to catch the Trolley once again. It would probably be adviseable to empty your bladder before leaving Zona Norte if you were partaking of Cerveza with the customs wait.

Perhaps locals can expand on this as I haven't been there for several years, but the Trolley was clean, regularly scheduled and the fare was reasonable.

No mentioning of Uber here, I notice. Could it be because they email your trip info and receipts? Possibly, but that's what the delete button is there for. Since the clubs I go to have parking (or nearby pay parking), the issue of getting there has not been an issue. Vegas clubs of course want you to use their limo-buses if you want to save on the cover charges (you get stuck with taxis for the ride home but I've done OK with them before). NY clubs are of course transit / taxi only unless you're a douchebag.

I didn't mention Uber, Lyft, or cab company because they're private companies for hire only, not a metropolitan entity like Metro, Bart, Marta, etal running busses and or light rail on a regularly scheduled basis. (i.e., light rail has stops at Electric Avenue station on the hour, 20 past, and 40 past 6am to midnight). Uber, etal , is certainly available to the general public, but you must call or hail them. I did go off topic a bit my mentioning hotel van shuttles. In that case, I was catering to the Tuscl demographic of which many are business travelers who may not always rent a car.

Public transportation works. Here in CLE we have the RTA which runs buses and the Rapid (surface, light rail train). The buses run one scheduled loop after the trains (About 1 hr) stop running. Which comes about to 11:30-45 PM for trains and 12:30-45 AM for buses (as late a 1 AM, but that's cutting it close, and you will probably miss your stop).

The best night for the trains is the nights when there is also a sporting event downtown (baseball, basketball, or football). As the trains will run late, somethings until 1:30 or 2:00 AM which is about perfect.

I have been stranded a few times when I was out thinking there was a ball game when there wasn't.

One night I had to walk home through "the projects" (Cleveland Metropolitan Housing Authority). Boy! Was that exciting! ;)

I haven't checked carefully but the San Diego trolley seems to shut down around midnight and resume about 430 the next morning. that actually will work for me because I usually come out of hong kong club at 4 AM. if I park my car at one of the trolley stops close by the parking is free. maybe I will attempt to do this tomorrow to check it out more carefully.

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Should be this Blue Trolley, and thanks to Silky Pants for letting us know about this.

Justme, people suggest caution about being out and about in TJ late at night. Not having been there I really don't know, but the idea of 4am would concern me. Would you have rented a room for the night, or just be using the short time rooms?

SJG

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many times I have walked from the clubs to the border at 1,2,3,4,5 AM and never had an issue. since the opening of the new crossing into the US there at el chaparral/Virginia Street it's just a matter of the easy four blocks from Hong Kong...the only fear I can come up with is from the cops them selves. and honestly if you walk with purpose that's a minor issue.

my plans for tonight been put on hold. one of my bosses told me I might be going to work today or this afternoon or tonight. as I have not worked at least seven days this month I need to be available so I can get my health care covered. sucks being a casual.

justme62, thanks for telling us about the safety, and about his new crossing. El Chaparral would be the bridge over the river. As I know that river is a dry storm drain area with a shanty town. But you do need to cross it.

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So based on your experiences to date, do you like HK Bar or Deja Vu better, and why?

Thanks, SJG

the shantys are long gone now. btw there is allways disgusting water flowing down the center of the cement lined tijuana river. and that river has the ability of handling a huge amount of water. straight to the pacific. and hong kong is absolutly the best.

as of today the google map photo is a year ago. lots of changes since then that do not show. certainly all these maps need to update their satellite photos at least monthly.

We are all interested in seeing what Deja Vu does in TJ. Can you say what Honk Kong Bar has over Deja Vu, as of now?

SJG

hk. awesome showroom action. way more girls. gfe. taco carts. street girls. adelitas and at least 20 other clubs in the neighborhood. and not the higher dancer/ room prices. the only thing that deja vu tj has at this time is a much shorter walk from the border and $3 beer.

besides i get a nice relatively cheap room at hong kong/ cascadas or adelitas / whatever the name is of their hotel. deja vu tj does not have that option that i know of, now i'm getting hungry for a street taco.

Thanks

SJG

Public transport is often a good option in Europe. Some of my specific reviews give details. Some clubs are too far but many have good public transport options. In London there are excellent night buses and two underground lines now run 24/7. One of my favourite clubs, Honeypot in Maidenhead, is close to a station with trains between London Paddington and Reading calling much of the night.

If I ever took public transport I would miss out on smoking weed in my car; easily going any place I want and t he enjoyment of an open sunroof and 420 on the drive home.