Comments by whodey (page 6)

Dr Pepper (specifically the zero sugar version) is about the only soda I drink anymore. It by far has the best flavor on its own, but I do still enjoy a little bit of Coke with my bourbon when I am at a club that doesn't have any real high quality bourbon to drink.

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Why don't strip clubs have better websites? Its simple, because having a great website isn't going to help the profit margin of the club. Why spend money on a high tech site when their profits are driven by the low tech and primal in-person interaction with sexy naked women? Sure, some clubs charge to access a webcam of the club's stage shoe but that comes with risks to the bottom dollar. Some customers aren't going to go to a club where they may be seen on camera by someone they wouldn't want to see them in the club.

I'd say 75 percent of my visits do not involve extras at all. It really depends on the city where I am clubbing. In the area I am in (Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Tennessee and occasionally West Virginia) the vast majority of towns are devoid of extras in the club. Since I don't visit any of the cities for work more than once every 5-6 weeks I don't really have the time to develop OTC contacts in those cities like I did prior to 2020 when my job had me in the same 3 cities consistently every week to ten days. The changes my company put into place regarding teleconferencing and a subsequent promotion that limited my need to travel for work has really cut down on the percentage of my strip club visits that involve extras. Now the majority of my visits are either just for some good grinding lap dances or even just eye candy on stage if I am in a low mileage place like Tennessee.

"Why would it be obvious before she spoke to you? Maybe a topic for a different thread." A few reasons come to mind. 1) Most older white guys at small market clubs in the midwest where I do 99% of my clubbing don't speak Spanish. It would be different if I was clubbing in Florida, Texas or California but most midwesterners are bilingual beyond a few words with the exception of the younger generations. 2) I usually order a drink when I first get to the club and it can be a struggle at a Latina club if the bartender doesn't speak English. More than once I have had to use Google translate just to order a nice bourbon in a club. 3) I don't have much of a poker face and several dancers have told me it's clear that I don't enjoy the music when I have been at Latina clubs. I tell them that I'm there to enjoy the beautiful girls, not the music.

The main reason you don't see as many younger people, especially young families, in these restaurants is inflation. Many restaurants have doubled their prices in the past 5-10 years, especially after the covid shut downs, but wages, especially for lower middle class and below, haven't kept up with the rising costs. A lot of the 20 somethings and 30 somethings that I know have talked about how expensive it is for them to take their family out to even fast food restaurants let alone the casual restaurants. Even someplace like Applebee's can easily be $50-75 for a family of 5 and that doesn't fit into the budget of many young families. They tend to reserve paying that much for a meal for only special occasions rather than just a random night out each week. When they are willing to splurge on a night out for the family, this generation seems to prefer to go to a locally owned restaurant instead of a national chain even if it costs them $75-100 instead of $50-75. Since it is a more rare treat they would prefer the better quality, better service and better atmosphere at a local restaurant instead of a chain. I know that I go to locally owned places a lot more than the chain places anymore. The price gap between a place like Olive Garden vs a local restaurant has narrowed since the family owned places aren't raising their prices as quickly. The quality has also stayed higher at family owned places compared to the dropping quality at many chains. The sailme is true of fast food. It is about the same price for me to stop by a local deli for a Ruben and chips as it would be to get a value meal from Wendy's. There are only two types of places where the casual chains tend to be doing well. Areas where the economy is stronger and the younger families are making better money seem to be the most successful. The other is rural places along the highways where there isn't enough of a local population to support local restaurants but there is enough business from travelers that want to go to a place where they know what to expect rather than taking a chance with a local restaurant that may be terrible.

There are only two colors that matter in a strip club, green money and pink pussy. There's been a few times that I have gotten some odd looks when I walk into an all black club as a middle aged white guy. Not sure if the stares are because they are shocked to see someone like me going to that club, distrust that I may be working for LEO or some other form of distrust. Whatever the reason for the initial stares, they don't last very long. Once they see that I'm there to spend money and have fun everyone just goes back to their own experience. Rarely have I gotten any kind of look or stare going into a Latina club. The closest to a weird look would just be that each girl tends to have her phone out and Google translate open before they come to my table since I guess it is pretty obvious that I don't speak Spanish.

If they are operating as a brothel, why re you advertising it so openly on a public site? Are you trying to get them shut down by local law enforcement? Are you trying to get the dancers and other employees arrested for prostitution charges?

Did sjg have a stroke and create a new account on the hospital computer?

The streets of heaven are lined with the heros that we honor on this day. They are smiling while watching us exercise the freedoms that they fought and died for and while our country may not be perfect, they know that their sacrifice was worth it. My eternal gratitude goes out to them and their families and fellow service members that are still here on earth keeping their legacies alive.

I still don't see it very frequently, but it is certainly more common than at any point since I started clubbing in the late 90s. I can think of twice that I have seen it over the last 4-5 months.

"Just think of how over 3 -5 visits (possibly more) how much money (more importantly time) you are going to blow just chit chatting and messing around." Based on this statement, I'm not sure strip clubs are the right place for you. It is clear that you are looking to pay beautiful women to fuck you and I, and most of this board, support that endeavor and often seek the same thing. However, most strip club customers, including myself, don't look at the time we spend in the club as a waste of time if it doesn't end in fucking a stripper either itc or otc. We enjoy seeing a wide variety of women naked performing their rlstage routines as well as having one of more of these beautiful women flirting and chatting with us and grinding on our laps while we fondle their various body parts. If the time you spend in the club feels like wasted time for you and not something that you enjoy, there are other places you can more quickly find someone willing to suck and fuck you for money. There are escort sites, sugar baby sites, classified ads, "dating" sites that are more for quick hookups than dating, street walkers or even traditional dating like you mentioned. All of those methods are going to give you higher odds of finding girl willing to fuck you in a hotel room the first time you meet her than going to strip clubs will. Strip clubs may been the easiest way to find hot women willing to satisfy sexual fantasies in a lot of places 20-30 years ago, but even then most clubs were not a sure thing. Over the past decade plus the internet has made it much easier to women openly willing to have sex for money and they are a much surer bet than picking one random stripper in one random club on the one random night that you stop by. Many of those sites make it as easy as ordering off of a menu depending on what type of girl you are wanting at the time. Strip clubs will provide a range of women to choose from to flirt and grind with, but not necessarily to do more than that.

If you discuss it with her before hand and the thongs you will be bringing are new I'm sure most dancers would be willing to oblige your fetish request since it is a pretty mild one. Some may request a certain tip for fulfilling your specific fantasy but others may just be happy to keep the thongs in addition to the normal fee. If you are wanting to keep the thongs after she wears them dancing for you, I imagine she would charge extra for that knowing what some guys pay for used panties.

"To be honest I dont have the patience to be going to a club 10 or 20 times just to befriend the dancers. I dont want to be a regular on her roster that she calls when shit is slow. By then I would have spent well over 2K, plus time. I could easily get a regular girlfriend for that an get laid on the regular, but I have a thing for strippers. That is what the money was for so I could get what I want without games, she could make bank and then thats it, then if she is good I would become a regular then for OTC. I would go for fucking them 2 or 3 times a month and I would pay their rent. Would save me hassle and would save them hassle of scraping for rent." That is not how most strip clubs work. It sounds like you are looking for more of a sugar baby type of situation so perhaps try those types of sites. Sure there are some hookers that work the clubs to lure in customers, but the majority of strippers never have sex for money under any circumstances since they are strippers and not hookers. Among the ones that are willing to have sex for money it often isn't as simple just offering them the right amount of money and they'll meet you otc. Meeting a guy from a strip club at a hotel is a very dangerous prospect for strippers and they usually don't take that chance lightly. It involves an exponentially higher level of risk than even having sex with a customer in the club since they don't have any bouncers, bartenders, other dancers, other customers or even cameras around to help them if the guy starts causing trouble. That is why they need to build a level of trust with the guy before they are willing to risk being arrested, stalked, raped, abused or even killed by the stranger that just offered her money for sex. Even once they feel comfortable with you, many of them do require more than just a basic transaction since they see themselves as dancers and sex workers. Just like many customers require some conversation/flirting from the dancers instead of just a drive by "you wanna dance" many dancers require you to feed into their fantasy of wanting courting them and caring about them before they agree to fuck you in a hotel. Like others have said, getting otc isn't usually simply about looking good and offering them a lot of money, it is a long game that requires an investment of your time especially if you want a high quality dancer and not just a hooker who happens to dance. With what you are saying about not wanting to devote time into developing a relationship before moving to otc I highly suggest you look for a sugar baby instead since that seems to be closer to the situation you are looking for. Strip clubs are a unique version of mongering that differs from other forms of mongering like sugar babies, escorts, brothels or street walkers. The downside is that it isn't a simple cash for sex situation (unless you visit certain clubs for itc). The upside is that you get to spend time with a wide variety of young, beautiful, naked women who will flirt with you and grind on you.

Are you sure you are even at a club where extras, either itc or otc, are even an option? It is not available in the majority of the clubs in the US. Even if it is available at that particular, not every dancer does it. If she turned down $2500 either she simply doesn't have sex for money (which is true of most strippers), thought you were a cop, thought you were a desperate creep, or she just didn't like you for whatever reason. It also sounds like you wanted her to get the hotel in her name by saying you would give her the cost of the room once you were in the room and that is a red flag for a couple of reasons. First, cops might do that as evidence against her. Second, it could indicate that you are planning to do something bad to her (Rob her, assault her or even rape her) so you don't want your name available from the hotel when the cops get there. Third, it puts her at risk financially since she could pay for the room and then you flake out leaving her out the cost of the room. She also may not have thought you were serious about spending big money based on what you wrote. A lot of guys flash a lot of money and tip well or buy drinks, but from what I read it isn't like you spent hundreds of dollars in the club or are someone known for spending well at that club. A lot of dancers who do see customers otc won't do so if the only money a guy spends it is some tips, drinks a few regular (aka cheap) dances. Did you take her for a long VIP session to show her you were serious about spending money and not some loser that pulls out a lot of cash to go to the club to show off but then puts 90% of that cash back in the bank before his wife finds out. She would probably be a lot more willing to believe you would actually spend $2500 for an hour of otc if you had spent $500+ in the club on dances and vip sessions In the end, the majority of clubs aren't brothels and the majority of strippers aren't hookers so you can't expect to walk into just any random club and have the first hot dancer you offer to pay for sex accept it. My recommendations would be to do research h on here first to make sure you are even going to the right club for what you are looking for and what the average cost is at that location. Then you will need to build a level of trust with the dancer you choose by spending time and decent money on her either in a single visit by buying a lot of regular dances or a vip session or over multiple visits. If you do it over multiple visits I suggest you buy dances from multiple girls each time so that you become a known quantity throughout the club and make all of the girls more comfortable with you. That way if your target girl turns out to be someone who doesn't do extras you can move on to another girl without having to start from scratch.

I had a dancer a few years ago that gave me a business card with her stage name, phone number, snapchat, OnlyFans and her personal escort website on it. It turned out to be a good thing that she did since the next time I was at the club I asked the bartender if she was working and I was told she had been fired. Luckily I still had the card so I texted her and she was a lot of fun OTC.

Simple answer is you don't. When you start posting pics of girls that you don't actually know because you like the pictures of her online and ask strangers to help you locate her in real life you have crossed the line into stalker territory. If you've asked her and she won't tell you where she works it is because she doesn't want you to know so leave her alone. Move on to somebody that will respond and let you know where you can spend money on her.

Glad to hear you are on the road to recovery. Just remember to take it easy as you return to the club, blowjobs only for the first couple of visits before you rush back into fs.

The bigger question is: What did you search for that brought that back as a result that it thought you wanted to see? On second thought, don't answer that.

I get your point, but keep in mind that normal business expectations don't necessarily apply in a strip club. In the end, she is there to make money and you are the one spending money. Just like a lot of girls expect you to pay for the motel if you meet otc, a lot of girls expect you to cover the cheap cost of the condom. A three pack of condoms per visit to the club probably doesn't add up to much for you over the course of a year, especially compared to what you spend in the club. Also, as much as condoms are contraband that can cause you serious grief if found at home, they can also cause the girls grief in the unlikely event of a raid by the local LEOs.

Thanks for the updates and hoping for a speedy recovery.

God speed on a quick recovery for shadowcat. Maybe some of the Atlanta TUSCLers can send a few local strippers to help speed along his recovery (once his heart is up to it of course).

At least he had 80+ years of a good life filled with great music.

Not complicated. Go to a local store and buy a prepaid Visa/Mastercard with cash and use that buy your membership.

@grjax, I understand the feeling, but you may miss out on some amazing experiences that way. Oftentimes the best strippers have enough customers approaching them that they don't need to go around hustling strangers or pouncing on customers when they first arrive. This is especially true in clubs that have a lot of older customers who often give the girls a decent amount of money just to sit there and flirt with them. When I first started clubbing I would wait for the girls to approach me. However, after a while I realized that most visits I didn't get dances from the girls that most interested me because they never approached me. Once I started approaching them my visits got much better.