Races
Itsmytime
I’ve had enough and I can’t take it any more
I’m an equal opportunity PL. In other words, I’ll dance with any good looking woman, white or black, brown or yellow, blue or green. I’ve never been rejected by a club or a dancer due to race, but sometimes feel uncomfortable when I’m the only person of my race in the club (PL or dancer). That uncomfortable feeling is probably all from me rather than others actions or words.
What’s been your experience in a club that primarily serves a clientele different than your own race, e.g. white in a black club, black in a latina club, latino in a white club, etc.?
What’s been your experience in a club that primarily serves a clientele different than your own race, e.g. white in a black club, black in a latina club, latino in a white club, etc.?
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I've been the only white guy in black and Latina clubs and just don't care. Never made to feel awkward.
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
The UNDENIABLE REALITY is that people greet you according to the way you dress, and look to them, and say goodbye according to the way you behave towards them.
In my humble opinion and limited experience, if you behave like a gentleman, you will be treated like a gentleman.
I've never had an issue with clientele, being the only white guy in predominantly Black or Latin clubs has made me feel a little spotlighted occasionally but that's it. I don't know how the customers feel about me being there, if it bothers anyone it doesn't seem to do so enough to cause them to react negatively.
I've had quite a few instances of black strippers accusing me of being racist because I turned them down. On occasion the exchanges have somewhat aggressive. It's only been with black strippers. Never Latina's, Asians, or any other type of stripper that doesn't align to my race/nationality/etc. It's happened in clubs of various types, I've even had a black girl in a black club go off on a rant on how I must be racist because I only got dances from the girls with "white girl" bodies, which turned into a fight between the three dancers I had gotten dances from and the one who was causing the scene. They didn't appreciate being considered not black.
I've also had a couple instances of a white stripper not wanting to be with me because she saw me with a black stripper. That really caught me by surprise the first time it happened. But it was no big deal, she just asked me if I had fucked the black girl and when I refused to answer, because I never answer those questions, she said well then you must have and I don't want to touch no nigger lover and walked off. The second instance it was after I had already been with the white girl when she found out I was with the black girl first, and she got all upset that I didn't tell her and stormed off. I still kinda laugh at the idea that a stripper willing to fuck customers of unknown provenance somehow has a problem with their sexual history.
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Interesting because the most racially aggressive stripper I’ve encountered was Asian. A tiny, skinny Cambodian girl - far from type - who accused me of being racist.
Few experiences in black clubs - but typically it’s “are you a cop” ?
There's been a few times that I have gotten some odd looks when I walk into an all black club as a middle aged white guy. Not sure if the stares are because they are shocked to see someone like me going to that club, distrust that I may be working for LEO or some other form of distrust. Whatever the reason for the initial stares, they don't last very long. Once they see that I'm there to spend money and have fun everyone just goes back to their own experience.
Rarely have I gotten any kind of look or stare going into a Latina club. The closest to a weird look would just be that each girl tends to have her phone out and Google translate open before they come to my table since I guess it is pretty obvious that I don't speak Spanish.
Why would it be obvious before she spoke to you? Maybe a topic for a different thread.
Anyways back to the topic, I don’t give a fuck and never have. I was recently keeping company with (shit I’m old) a particular stripper. I went to where she worked to see her (why do they rob banks, cause that’s where the money is – well not anymore but I digress). Anyways this girl was working in a Hells Angels bar and then switched to a loud Miami vibe deeply black club. Of course, I followed her even though I didn’t much care for either club by themselves. The owners of both clubs bought me drinks and spent time socializing with me no doubt trying to figure me out. I’m simply a monger doing mongering things.
The only time that I came a little close to having a problem was years ago when a bartender informed me that the outlaw bikers that occupied a bar which was attached to a strip club had been giving me the stink eye. He told them that I was only there chasing a particular piece of tail. The girl was kind of like their little sister and until she told them to fuck-off I was still suspect. Afterward we all sang Kumbaya (fuck I’m old).
A few reasons come to mind.
1) Most older white guys at small market clubs in the midwest where I do 99% of my clubbing don't speak Spanish. It would be different if I was clubbing in Florida, Texas or California but most midwesterners are bilingual beyond a few words with the exception of the younger generations.
2) I usually order a drink when I first get to the club and it can be a struggle at a Latina club if the bartender doesn't speak English. More than once I have had to use Google translate just to order a nice bourbon in a club.
3) I don't have much of a poker face and several dancers have told me it's clear that I don't enjoy the music when I have been at Latina clubs. I tell them that I'm there to enjoy the beautiful girls, not the music.
Bacon!!
People like what they like either way. I think for the most part clubs and dancers are there to make money although they may occasionally prefer not to deal with a customer for a variety of reasons We are there to pursue what we’re attracted to. As long as we treat everyone with respect it’s ok. That’s the business.
I don’t speak Spanish but I love latinas and manage around any language barrier. With a corona and a shot of tequila in front of me and cash in my pocket, I blend in just fine. In black clubs, same thing. I might try to dress appropriately for the club, but that’s always true. Back in the day, the tuscl club pages had an ethnicity section. I think the options were white, black, mixed and maybe Latina. The info is in the reviews so not a big deal that the ethnicity section is gone, but it was nice to have on the same page with the cover, lap dance prices, and other basic info.
I am a comfortable Spanish speaker. However I am unsure if being able to converse in a Latina’s language helps or hurts the dance experience. Definitely helps when chatting but I’m more about the physical side of this hobby
Part of it might be I'm white, decently put together, and courteous, so I stand out in Latina clubs, and speaking Spanish is a bonus.
Some Latin clubs can be a little "thuggish."
To be honest, I struggle almost as much communicating with the younger American girls. Sometimes it feels like we don't speak the same language.
Been many times to latina and black clubs where I was the only or virtually the only white and have never had a problem. In an environment like that, I think I tend to get more approaches from dancers than those of their own ethnicity, probably as they're pretty sure why I'm there (and usually, they are right).
-SkiDumb
lol! They say admitting you’re the problem is the first step in finding a solution. Bet any amount of value that’s as far as it gets though, just admitting the problem, cause death is the only solution we will fortunately see.
However, I find that being white and older has its advantages. Many dancers (of all ethnicities) have told me that they do not like young black men and young Spanish men customers. But they love older white men, especially those with deep pockets.
The newer "urban" clubs have mostly black dancers. Many work there because they can make decent money (in big stacks of singles) while barely being touched. More power to them, but not what I'm looking for. These clubs generally cater to gansta rap fans. So the clubs cater to being stoopid with money, and the dancers cater to men who want really toxic interactions with women. Not my scene either. But, motivated dancers change it up as needed to get your money. Some strippers in these clubs will warm up to you, once they see you don't consider them a hoe or bitch.
I really, really like petite AA women. If Simone Biles was a dancer, my wallet would explode.
I like upscale African-American-looking women, there's something charming about them. F.e. I recall one spinner at Penthouse NOLa about ten years ago who stole my heart and most of my wallet, and I have zero regrets, totally worth it. She was tiny, about four foot eleven, with large-ish natural (or, why do I care?, natural-feeling) breasts and a tiny almost non-existent butt. She smelled great, I can still recall something like coconut. She had sort-of dreadlocks but they were up and out of her face and soft-feeling and looking, I could call them glam-dreads. She claimed to be a graduate student in psychology and I could have believed her, there was no reason to think she wasn't, given her level of discourse. She said she hated working at most "Black clubs" because she felt like shaking her booty in super-twerk style was trashy (I mostly agree) but she disliked working at most non-"Black" clubs because she was generally passed over by most of the clientele, who (I think wrongly) expected her to be trashy and thought of her as less desirable than the more pale-skinned other dancers. I can't recall much else of what she was saying, I was preoccupied with the rest of her.
PS is it "Black" (uppercase) or "black" (lowercase) and should I care?
You went out of your way to tell us how not racist you are, but you're the one who said that black means lower-class. I don't really think that way. I think black means black people and black music. I would use that "lower-class" description for some mostly white clubs I've been in, in Alabama. And if a black club has thuggish clientele, well, not sure what to say except, that's on them. Nobody's putting that image out there except the folks in the club. I'm not saying you're racist btw. But sometimes the white folks who protesteth a bit too much are the ones who have assumptions that they're been spoon fed (and they're usually liberals who ironically claim that the other side is racist, but this isn't the politics forum so I'll stop there).
"PS is it "Black" (uppercase) or "black" (lowercase) and should I care?"
Nobody else cares, care if you want, you don't need anyone's permission to care or not.
Hate to say it but a lot of them almost view black Americans as a lower species--why can't they appreciate the opportunities in America, etc. According to my best black friend (who I'm taking out in Atlanta this weekend!) more "ghetto" black women tend to see other races as weak and less masculine, but that's changing because only now do black women feel like they have permission to date non-black men.
I know that here, "black club" carries connotations, but for my white ass, I just want to know what kind of women will be dancing there. Race, age, fitness, temperament. I've gone to black clubs, Latin clubs, and never felt out of place. Sometimes the girls try to play to a fetish, like black women referring to themselves or parts of their body as "chocolate," but I don't care. I just love women, that's why I'm here.
Why the aggro, 5footguy, is it genuinely painful to walk around inside your skin or are you just trolling for a fight? Recent comments of yours have invented slights where reasonable people would have found none, inferred weaknesses where they may or may not exist but where their discovery was unnecessary to the actual content of the discussion.
pps Puddy_Tat I sent you a PM about that other discussion.
Gonna open my wallet for some fine black women this weekend. Buddy is black and loves Latinas, he's gonna be balls deep in some Cubanas...
I have no idea what you mean. If you have some beef DM me, no need to resolve any personal conflicts in public.
I have been in Latina clubs and no issues. They look good, nice to talk to and arent pushy, hey make you want to spend and it doesnt feel like a sales pitch.
I wont go into clubs with too many whites either because they tend to not have any breasts (or fake ones) and look lanky and cant dance. They are also very annoying and talk about their parents too much. I dont want to hear about your damn family. Im in there to look at tits and try to pay for some head at minimum.