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11 years ago
In my club there are a couple of different options for VIP. The following is for 30 minutes, double for an hour.
1) Executive room - $25 to enter, $150 to bring your girl back there.
This is the only room is the club with a pole. It's semi-private and there will be bouncers at the entrance. There's a bar and televisions also.
2) The Lofts - $100 room fee, $150 to bring your girl, this is usually what most guys go for if they're in for VIP. These rooms are completely private, no cameras, bouncers, ect. They're small and cozy with usually 2 leather couches and a chair. The lighting is pretty dark and you get to choose your own music which is always nice. There's a coffee table that lights up different colors when you put your weight on it in every room. If you strike the bouncers as sketchy they may peep their head in once just to make sure all is well, but they usually don't. I want to say before a certain time of night the room fee is $50. I'm not positive.
3) The Penthouse - I wanna say it's something completely ridiculous like $500 plus $150 to bring your girl back there, but it may be slightly less than that. I've only been up here once and it was just a room with a big TV, big leather couches, and your own bar. Pretty similar to the lofts but larger. You will NOT be disturbed by anyone in this room. They keep a bouncer outside the doors to make sure no one enters. You'll be treated like a celebrity in this room.
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11 years ago
@estafador
If a younger guy got a lot of dances from me without doing a VIP I definitely wouldn't avoid him if I saw him again. This actually happened to me this weekend. Of course, I'd rather do VIP but I'd definitely approach him at least to say hello.
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11 years ago
@goodsouthernboy
My favorite part about dancing besides the money would just be the opportunities to meet amazing people I wouldn't have been able to meet in any other line of work. The vast majority of the girls I work with are some of the most sincere and nonjudgmental girls I've ever met, and I genuinely believe I'll keep in touch with many of them even after I stop dancing.
I also have met a lot of interesting men. Like I said, at my other job I'm surrounded pretty exclusively by women 95% of the time. I know for a fact I would NEVER get to meet most of the guys I've danced for in any other setting since most of them are much older than me, are traveling, or both.
On another note, I'm also a HUGE sucker for high-end lingerie, especially anything from agent provocateur. Before I started dancing I couldn't bring myself to splurge on lingerie, especially if no one was going to see it. Being a dancer has allowed me to indulge this habit and not feel bad about. Hey, maybe I can even write that off of my taxes? lol (not really)
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11 years ago
Thank you essdub and jackslash :) you guys are awesome!
I didn't get a chance to respond to club_goer about how this website had helped me with getting VIP customers.
Before I would approach guys and ask if they'd been, lay out the price and hope they'd go for it. This usually led to them asking what they could do to me back there and I wasn't sure how to respond without killing the sale.
Now I seldom bring up VIP. I wait for customers to ask if we have private rooms and then I tell them about it. I tell them up front I won't have sex back there. I stress that it's not a matter of wanting to or not; I just don't want to jeopardize my job. I also stress what we CAN do back there much more than what we can't.
A lot of times I'll spend time with a customer getting to know them and I'll present VIP as the best option if they want me "all to themselves" for the night. This way I don't have to go back onstage or to do dances for anyone else.
The discussion post I made about private rooms definitely helped but a few members wrote me PMs and I can't tell you how much those messages helped me. Particularly, one member described VIP experiences as elongated foreplay. This took a lot of pressure off of me as far as guys wanting sex. Pretty much every message helped me in some way. I won't go into too much detail.
I guess in a way you guys have been like a good luck charm. Like I mentioned earlier, I don't bring up VIP to guys often. Most of the time they'll approach me and bring it up or bring it up after a few dances, which rarely happened before I made this account when I'd just started :)
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11 years ago
@sharkhunter
A couple of weeks ago this guy that I assumed was gay asked me to come dance for his group while I was on stage. He was wearing this really flamboyant paisley shirt that was unbuttoned pretty much all the way to his belly button and his chest was waxed and he just didn't look like the kind of guy I usually see in the club. I get offstage and he tells me he wants me to dance for his girlfriend. So I spread this lady's legs and realize she's not wearing any underwear so I'm like "oops!" but she just keeps her legs spread and scoots down in her chair, further exposing her vagina to the entire club. Then she points to this other guy and is like "this is my husband" and points to the guy that got me onstage and was like "that's my boyfriend." Then she starts rubbing her husband's crotch while I'm dancing for her (this is all on the main floor, not a VIP room) which I just kind of tried to ignore. Then her boyfriend leans over and starts fingering her while I'm dancing. I guess it just weirded me out since this was literally in front of everyone in the club and the bouncers somehow didn't notice. They tipped really well though and left right afterwards so I was cool with it.
Also a black guy recently asked me if I'd be down to role-play some slave/slave-master's wife fantasy. I politely declined.
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11 years ago
@sharkhunter all of my roommates know and are generally really cool about it actually.
@Papi I forgot to add my height is 5'6" and I haven't weighed myself in forever but I'd guess it's around 125?
and thanks ranukam :)
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11 years ago
I've noticed this too. Fridays and Saturdays often bring out women and college kids. They're fun but not great tippers. The most money I ever made was actually on a Tuesday and the majority came from one guy.
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11 years ago
@sharkhunter
Average take-home varies a lot. I've tried to set increasing goals for myself as I get better. For the first 2 weeks I tried to make at least $300 a night. Now I consider anything below $500 to be a bad night. Usually I can count on taking home $600-$1000 a night, but it's all pretty dependent on how long I stay in VIP. I want to consistently make $1000 a night and I'm working towards that. If for some reason I can't get a VIP at all it'll be less than that obviously.
The most I've made so far in a night after tip out was $2800
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11 years ago
@Dougster - I always had a soft spot for Jesse and Gus
@Papi - Measurements are 39-26-39
I was 16 when I lost my virginity
I'm currently studying film and hope to become a screenwriter one day.
@sharkhunter
I'm having a lot of fun dancing. My life is so much more interesting than it was 2 months ago and I've met a lot of awesome people, customers and dancers. At first I felt pretty overwhelmed because I had no idea what I was doing (and I still kind of don't) but I've learned to really enjoy it. The main objective at my club is really to get VIP customers, and I've gotten much better at that. This website actually helped me a lot surprisingly.
I don't plan on doing this for more than 2 years at the very most, hopefully less than that. I want to save up around 100k and then make a clean break and I'm on track to do that
I don't plan on telling my parents as of right now. They're extremely religious and already think I'm being corrupted just by living in the city, so I don't want to worry them.
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11 years ago
I started dancing for a lot of reasons. I have a scholarship and I could make enough money to support myself at my retail job but I literally had to work ALL the time. This was just enough to pay my rent and utilities without putting anything aside. I'd have to go straight from school and it was just the same thing every single day. I was really burned out of the mall environment and being around only women 24/7. Two girls I knew from high school were dancing at the club I currently work at and both of them were the opposite of what you would stereotypically think of as a stripper. I asked one of them about it and she told me how much money she was making and how she only had to work three nights a week.
I could get help from my parents if I wanted but I know they have a lot on their plate (they're probably going to support my older sister for the rest of her life) and I'd rather not be constantly reminded every time they help me out of what a burden it is.
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11 years ago
@briguy78 literally every single type of guy is welcome in a strip club. Personally I think it's sometimes easier to give bigger guys lap dances because I can balance a little better. I can't really explain why without demonstrating but basically their chair is less likely to move around. Girls won't avoid you :)
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11 years ago
Honestly I would say 95% of the dancers I work with have really great attitudes. Granted, most of them are in their 20s and don't plan on doing this long-term. Even if you had major baby daddy drama it just seems like a bad business strategy to bring it up to customers unless you're hoping they'll tip you out of pity. So maybe try a different club?
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11 years ago
How exactly does that work? I had to obtain a $360 license for my particular club before I could start working.
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11 years ago
Like a lot of you guys have mentioned, I don't think this will be a normal date just because of the setting we met in, but I'm also not trying to get paid for anything that might happen. And to farmerart, I'm pretty sure I never mentioned a strip club as an 'incubator of true love.' I'm 20 and working in a strip club. Obviously I'm not trying to get into anything serious right now.
But to everyone else, especially Papi, I really appreciate the advice! :)
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11 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
The girls in my club have said that this time of year is when things first start picking up and around Valentine's Day is the absolute busiest. They've said that the summertime is the worst time of year for them
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11 years ago
You guys are being harsh about strippers being lazy. I work Tuesday, Friday, and Saturday and the only day I really solicit dances is on Tuesday if it's a bit slower. My sales pitch comes in when I ask guys about wanting to go to VIP, but I'm not going to make a big effort to sell someone a dance on the main floor if other people just straight up ask for one. If you come in on a slower night and just try to make a lot of eye contact when your girl is on stage and give her a tip you may have more luck
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11 years ago
One time I was tipped a $50 outback steakhouse gift card
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11 years ago
It sounds like this is probably happening because you're 22. As a dancer I'm far less likely to approach a guy around your age (I'm 20 btw) simply because a lot of the time younger guys want to just talk and hang out and if they do get a lap dance they don't tip very well, but they'll still try to get your number. If someone asks me for a dance onstage though, I'll always make a point to go and see them afterwards. You may even want to let her know onstage that you'd like to take her to VIP when she gets off. Getting VIP customers, at least at my club, is the main objective for any dancer.
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11 years ago
@silkypants I wish I was making this story up. I just pray this guy doesn't come in again while I'm working. If you stop by cheetah again in the near future I'm sure someone could verify this for you. It was only a few weeks ago, not that it really matters
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11 years ago
Hey girl, I just started dancing about a month ago. I was in your position for a while. I thought I was attractive but I didn't know if I had the confidence to dance. At the club I work at there aren't poles but I'd suggest brushing up on some tricks since yours probably does.
The most important thing though is for YOU to feel sexy and confident. Try not to focus on what would happen if you fail or the other girls that will also be auditioning. Instead imagine what it'll be like once you have the job.
I'd get an outfit that's easy to take off and makes you feel really hot. I used to practice in the shower and right when I got out. In addition to skill on the pole, work on moving your body in a slow, seductive manner. When you're on stage, SMILE and make eye contact.
For me I was really apprehensive about auditioning. Then on my birthday I felt really sexy and confident and was just like 'I'm gonna do it' and it worked out. So prepare yourself, but don't overthink it. There's another site, stripperweb, that I don't have an account on but I'm sure would have a lot of insightful advice for you. I hope this helps! :)
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11 years ago
For now I think I'll keep my account. I may have more discussions where I'd like more of a male perspective since I'm still new to dancing so we'll see. I appreciate everyone who responded with real advice on this topic. Thank you!
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11 years ago
Or is there a way to just change my name without creating a whole new account?
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11 years ago
I don't necessarily mean young or attractive. Most of the guys that go for VIP are older and the majority of customers at cheetah are businessmen. (35+ except for Saturdays usually) I just mean they're not overly handsy or running under the assumption that because I dance I must offer 'services' outside the club. That kills the mood for me when that continues to come up after they've gotten an answer
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11 years ago
I do work at cheetah but I don't go by Rachel there. I think we do have a Rachel there though. I'll leave my stage name a secret on here. Papi's comment was also pretty spot on. Most of the VIPs I've gotten happen when I just kinda get picked off stage and I go with a group of at least 2 guys. There's a lot less pressure in these groups. On slower nights though dancers are more inclined to approach customers. Even though I dance I'm kind of shy so I'm still working on this.
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11 years ago
I don't think I ever said I was hesitant about just contact with a patron. I try to incorporate at least a little brisk contact during a $10 floor dance. You just have to be careful though or the house mom will get on you. In VIP I like being touched and getting to give 'real' lap dances since we can't straddle on the main floor. From the time I've spent at my club so far I think tiredtravele's comment was pretty spot on though. The only time I was really uncomfortable in VIP was when I was vague with this guy about what was actually gonna happen. He was really blunt about wanting to take me there immediately and when we got there and the bouncer closed the door he immediately whipped his dick out. I covered my eyes and turned around and he starts spouting off about how much money he'll give me and how it was only this much at oasis...blah blah blah. That was my third night there. It made me feel so embarrassed and uncomfortable that I just left and went back to the main stage. I think VIP is the most fun when I have time to get comfortable with the guy or if I'm already attracted to him, or both of course.